On 22/06/2023 04:35 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Agreed. There's no reason why rehabilitation can't work for all but a tiny number, provided the resources are available.
>
> However, like millions of others, he can still contribute to society without ever having a driving licence again. Lifetime ban please.

Which provision, of which Act of Parliament?

A proper answer, please - or you are an idiot.

Oh... hang on...
>
> And I'd like to see him make a public information video about the life he ended and the consequences both for him and for the victim's family. It should be shown to every driver found to have been dicking about with a phone while driving (and their phone to be smashed to pieces).

See above.

And I'm sure you'll agree that it'd be a good idea to crush the
fairy-bikes of chavs who ride them on footways or through red traffic
lights. No if, buts or maybes...

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 5:36:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> QUOTE: every driver found to have been dicking about with a phone while driving (and their phone to be smashed to pieces). ENDS
>
> That's a driver's trick when they try and destroy evidence - usually in vain.

The last one who tried it - the phone was reconstructed and the driver convicted.

40 min ago

That car landed in my best mates garden, it could have easily crashed into his house or hit him as he sat outside as he often did - luckily a tree stopped him but not before that poor man lost his life! That stretch of road is straight, even if you tried you'd struggle to go over a side ditch, straighten up and then fly over a 5/6ft wide drain, so he must have being doing well over 100mph. He should never be allowed behind the wheel again!

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/paramedic-who-downed-10-pints-8543769#comments-wrapper

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 6:41:14 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 5:36:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > QUOTE: every driver found to have been dicking about with a phone while driving (and their phone to be smashed to pieces). ENDS
> >
> > That's a driver's trick when they try and destroy evidence - usually in vain.
> The last one who tried it - the phone was reconstructed and the driver convicted.

A lorry driver who ploughed into a broken-down car killing three people moments after watching a seven-minute Ladbible video and while typing on a sat-nav app on his mobile phone has been jailed for 12 years.

Michal Kopaniarz previously pleaded guilty to three charges of causing death by dangerous driving in connection with the four-vehicle crash on the A303 near Andover, Hampshire, on August 25, 2021.

The 39-year-old also admitted perverting the course of justice by breaking the Samsung mobile phone he had been using.

University graduate Alex Britton, 28, food delivery driver Tina Ince, 58, and recovery driver Tom Watson, 30, died of “catastrophic injuries”.

Simon Jones, prosecuting, told Winchester Crown Court that Ms Britton’s Vauxhall Astra had broken down and Ms Ince, from Southampton, had stopped in her Mercedes Sprinter food delivery van to help her.

Recovery driver Mr Watson also stopped when he saw the stationary vehicles still partly in the carriageway.

He was about to winch the Astra on to his recovery vehicle when the defendant’s HGV, travelling at 56mph, ploughed into the rear of the food van which had its hazard lights on.

This shunted the Mercedes into the Astra killing the three victims who were stood between the vehicles, Mr Jones said.

The prosecutor said that Kopaniarz had watched a seven minute-long Ladbible video from Facebook on his phone which he had gone on to share with a woman on Facebook Messenger 42 seconds prior to the collision.

And at the point of impact, the defendant had been typing the destination for his journey, a Co-op water bottle depot in Andover, into a mapping app.

The defendant continued driving at 56mph when the collision happened and he only applied emergency braking at about 0.2 to 0.5 seconds or nine to 12 metres before impact despite having a clear view of the vehicles for 170m.

The court was shown dash-cam footage from Kopaniarz’s lorry as it drove towards the halted traffic and failed to slow down before the collision.

Following the crash, Kopaniarz was captured on dash-cam footage snapping his Samsung phone into two pieces which police later rebuilt to obtain the data from it.

You’ve posted this story (or very close versions of it) some four times
now.

What are you trying to deflect attention from?

As if we couldn’t guess…

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> A lorry driver who ploughed into a broken-down car killing three people
> moments after watching a seven-minute Ladbible video and while typing on
> a sat-nav app on his mobile phone has been jailed for 12 years.
>
> Michal Kopaniarz previously pleaded guilty to three charges of causing
> death by dangerous driving in connection with the four-vehicle crash on
> the A303 near Andover, Hampshire, on August 25, 2021.
>
> The 39-year-old also admitted perverting the course of justice by
> breaking the Samsung mobile phone he had been using.
>
> University graduate Alex Britton, 28, food delivery driver Tina Ince, 58,
> and recovery driver Tom Watson, 30, died of “catastrophic injuries”.
>
> Simon Jones, prosecuting, told Winchester Crown Court that Ms Britton’s
> Vauxhall Astra had broken down and Ms Ince, from Southampton, had stopped
> in her Mercedes Sprinter food delivery van to help her.
>
> Recovery driver Mr Watson also stopped when he saw the stationary
> vehicles still partly in the carriageway.
>
> He was about to winch the Astra on to his recovery vehicle when the
> defendant’s HGV, travelling at 56mph, ploughed into the rear of the food
> van which had its hazard lights on.
>
> This shunted the Mercedes into the Astra killing the three victims who
> were stood between the vehicles, Mr Jones said.
>
> The prosecutor said that Kopaniarz had watched a seven minute-long
> Ladbible video from Facebook on his phone which he had gone on to share
> with a woman on Facebook Messenger 42 seconds prior to the collision.
>
> And at the point of impact, the defendant had been typing the destination
> for his journey, a Co-op water bottle depot in Andover, into a mapping app.
>
> The defendant continued driving at 56mph when the collision happened and
> he only applied emergency braking at about 0.2 to 0.5 seconds or nine to
> 12 metres before impact despite having a clear view of the vehicles for 170m.
>
> The court was shown dash-cam footage from Kopaniarz’s lorry as it drove
> towards the halted traffic and failed to slow down before the collision.
>
> Following the crash, Kopaniarz was captured on dash-cam footage snapping
> his Samsung phone into two pieces which police later rebuilt to obtain the data from it.
>

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Spike

Disgusting !! Wtf is this country coming to ?? Taking a life whilst Drink driving should be classed as MURDER.

23 min ago

Said that for a long time. You should be made to sign a declaration when passing your test that drink driving and dangerous driving you pay with a proper sentence.

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Disgusting !! Wtf is this country coming to ?? Taking a life whilst
> Drink driving should be classed as MURDER.
>
> 23 min ago
>
> Said that for a long time. You should be made to sign a declaration when
> passing your test that drink driving and dangerous driving you pay with a proper sentence.

What’s your take on giving drunken killer cyclists proper sentences?

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Spike

Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Disgusting !! Wtf is this country coming to ?? Taking a life whilst
>> Drink driving should be classed as MURDER.
>>
>> 23 min ago
>>
>> Said that for a long time. You should be made to sign a declaration when
>> passing your test that drink driving and dangerous driving you pay with
>> a proper sentence.
>
> What’s your take on giving drunken killer cyclists proper sentences?

Or, for that matter, sober killer cyclists and proper sentences?

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Spike

Let's work this out 5 years 4 month for murder? MMM? Half that? 2 years 8 months Big MMM?. Deffo got tagging as in a cat D prison? That's means probably done about 20 months prison for murder?? But the guy 5 kids all got life sentence? Because got no dad now. And Mr murderer off bk work as if nothing happened . He drunk 10 pints because was stressed out? Don't no what this silly country coming too?

All because he wanted to go see his mistress, 2 families suffering here and he gets the option to go back to work as normal, but how can he do that with no driving licence and a criminal record that should be classed as murder

On 23/06/2023 06:38 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Let's work this out 5 years 4 month for murder?

Did the CPS authorise a charge of murder?

Did the paramedic plead guilty to it or was there a trial (ask an adult
what all that means)?

> MMM?

"3,000"?

What are you on about?

> Half that? 2 years 8 months Big MMM?.

Definitely not 3,000 years or months.

Not even for your imaginary charge of "murder".

> Deffo got tagging as in a cat D prison?

Beat The Clock game revived?

> That's means probably done about 20 months prison for murder??

See above re actions of CPS.

> But the guy 5 kids all got life sentence? Because got no dad now. And Mr murderer

You might "think" you're safe there, but even convicted drink-drivers
have rights under the law.

> off bk work as if nothing happened . He drunk 10 pints because was stressed out? Don't no what this silly country coming too?

A good question. It's sunk so far that a few people "think" that
chav-cycling is an acceptable "choice" to foist upon a very reluctant
general public.
>
> All because he wanted to go see his mistress, 2 families suffering here and he gets the option to go back to work as normal, but how can he do that with no driving licence and a criminal record that should be classed as murder

Have you asked the CPS and your brother trial judge about that, M'Lud?

On Friday, 23 June 2023 at 06:38:50 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Let's work this out 5 years 4 month for murder? MMM? Half that? 2 years 8 months Big MMM?. Deffo got tagging as in a cat D prison? That's means probably done about 20 months prison for murder?? But the guy 5 kids all got life sentence? Because got no dad now. And Mr murderer off bk work as if nothing happened . He drunk 10 pints because was stressed out? Don't no what this silly country coming too?
>
> All because he wanted to go see his mistress, 2 families suffering here and he gets the option to go back to work as normal, but how can he do that with no driving licence and a criminal record that should be classed as murder

He was clocked at 100mph by the crash investigators - while pissed up.

On 23/06/2023 10:36 am, Simon Mason...

.... pretending to be two people and to answer only his own posts (under
either name):

> On Friday, 23 June 2023 at 06:38:50 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Let's work this out 5 years 4 month for murder? MMM? Half that? 2 years 8 months Big MMM?. Deffo got tagging as in a cat D prison? That's means probably done about 20 months prison for murder?? But the guy 5 kids all got life sentence? Because got no dad now. And Mr murderer off bk work as if nothing happened . He drunk 10 pints because was stressed out? Don't no what this silly country coming too?
>> All because he wanted to go see his mistress, 2 families suffering here and he gets the option to go back to work as normal, but how can he do that with no driving licence and a criminal record that should be classed as murder

> He was clocked at 100mph by the crash investigators - while pissed up.

"Clocked" AFTER the event?

They have a time machine, then?

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 10:36:03 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
> On Friday, 23 June 2023 at 06:38:50 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Let's work this out 5 years 4 month for murder? MMM? Half that? 2 years 8 months Big MMM?. Deffo got tagging as in a cat D prison? That's means probably done about 20 months prison for murder?? But the guy 5 kids all got life sentence? Because got no dad now. And Mr murderer off bk work as if nothing happened . He drunk 10 pints because was stressed out? Don't no what this silly country coming too?
> >
> > All because he wanted to go see his mistress, 2 families suffering here and he gets the option to go back to work as normal, but how can he do that with no driving licence and a criminal record that should be classed as murder
> He was clocked at 100mph by the crash investigators - while pissed up.

paulittecc2, durham, United Kingdom, 11 months ago

He has a wife but was driving to see his girlfriend. Poor wife. I feel so much for the innocent family involved. My heart goes out to them.