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Re: Lifetime ban for elderly female killer driver

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JulesC replied to IanMSpencer | 28 posts | 4 min ago
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Yes; HTF does the lawyer suggest poor conditions excuse it.
It if is bad, slow down.
If it is really bad (esp. if you're old & impinged) DON'T F**KING DRIVE.

How difficult is it?

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JulesC replied to Knee Yo Anderson | 28 posts | 29 sec ago
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You may be right, if only her own lawyer hadn't said
"He claimed that while her failure to see Ms Witham was careless, she was driving at 36mph in a 50mph zone and her vision was impacted by the glare on the road caused by rainwater."

If the conditions are so bad then stop the vehicle.

I remember a storm so severe that whilst I was driving down the M1 even the German cars stopped - this was the entire M1 and entirely spontaneously.

She could have stopped.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> JulesC replied to Knee Yo Anderson | 28 posts | 29 sec ago
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> You may be right, if only her own lawyer hadn't said
> "He claimed that while her failure to see Ms Witham was careless, she was
> driving at 36mph in a 50mph zone and her vision was impacted by the glare
> on the road caused by rainwater."
>
> If the conditions are so bad then stop the vehicle.
>
> I remember a storm so severe that whilst I was driving down the M1 even
> the German cars stopped - this was the entire M1 and entirely spontaneously.
>
> She could have stopped.

The epitaph of ‘The cyclist could have stopped’ is all too common.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> QUOTE: Jesper, of Solihull, was said to have heard a "thud" as she drove
> along the 50mph stretch but failed to realise what happened. A short
> while later she discovered her door mirror was hanging off. ENDS
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> Amazing - these low flying Suns can do so much unseen damage.

Ah! The first use in this thread of the ‘low flying sun’ manufactured jibe.

> What a load of bollocks.

Isn’t it just.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> JulesC replied to IanMSpencer | 28 posts | 4 min ago
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> Yes; HTF does the lawyer suggest poor conditions excuse it.

> It if is bad, slow down.

Coming from a cyclist, that’s hilarious.

You were there and saw it happen?

Then explain how travelling below the limit (used to denigrate older drives
by some cyclists) didn’t involve slowing down.

> If it is really bad (esp. if you're old & impinged) DON'T F**KING DRIVE.

They could always buy a souped-up electric-motor cycle and kill people that
way, and get off any legal sanction as well!

> How difficult is it?

For cyclists to Jill people? Too easy, it would seem.

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4 days ago

QUOTE: Younger drivers cause most incidents because of the speeds they drive at. Usually they are on their phones. They blunder along the pavements knocking people over. They don't indicate before turning. Maybe people under 35 shouldn't be on our roads. ENDS

At least the killer in this case will never drive again.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> 4 days ago
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> QUOTE: Younger drivers cause most incidents because of the speeds they
> drive at. Usually they are on their phones. They blunder along the
> pavements knocking people over. They don't indicate before turning. Maybe
> people under 35 shouldn't be on our roads. ENDS
>
> At least the killer in this case will never drive again.

The lady concerned might well busy a souped-up electric-motor cycle, and
bowl happily along pavements scattering pedestrians left and
right…untouched by ‘the law’.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:47 UTC

Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 4 days ago
>>
>> QUOTE: Younger drivers cause most incidents because of the speeds they
>> drive at. Usually they are on their phones. They blunder along the
>> pavements knocking people over. They don't indicate before turning. Maybe
>> people under 35 shouldn't be on our roads. ENDS
>>
>> At least the killer in this case will never drive again.
>
> The lady concerned might well busy a souped-up electric-motor cycle, and
> bowl happily along pavements scattering pedestrians left and
> right…untouched by ‘the law’.

Apologies for the errant s.

Soup…bowl… get it?

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Ian Bradbury
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How the fuck do you "not notice" running over a person? Most motorists react violently to the slightest contact with their precious metal cage.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:36 UTC

On 25/06/2023 04:39 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> 4 days ago
>
> QUOTE: Younger CHAV-CYCLISTS cause most incidents because of the speeds they PEDAL at. Usually they are on their phones. They blunder along the pavements knocking people over. They don't indicate before turning. Maybe people under 35 shouldn't be on our roads. ENDS

Fixed that for you. The only amendments are those rendered in block
capitals, those changes necessarily [sorry for the five syllables] and
inescapably [sorry... five more] required because of the content of the
rest of your post.

It now makes sense whereas it made none before amendment.

No charge.

PS: Chav-cyclists with IQs of less than 35 certainly shouldn't be out on
their own. But as we can all see everyday, too many of them are.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:37 UTC

On 25/06/2023 04:47 pm, Spike wrote:
> Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 4 days ago
>>>
>>> QUOTE: Younger drivers cause most incidents because of the speeds they
>>> drive at. Usually they are on their phones. They blunder along the
>>> pavements knocking people over. They don't indicate before turning. Maybe
>>> people under 35 shouldn't be on our roads. ENDS
>>>
>>> At least the killer in this case will never drive again.
>>
>> The lady concerned might well busy a souped-up electric-motor cycle, and
>> bowl happily along pavements scattering pedestrians left and
>> right…untouched by ‘the law’.
>
> Apologies for the errant s.
>
> Soup…bowl… get it?

It was subtle!

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:42 UTC

Darren S
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, is this what you meant when you said dangerous cyclists needed stiffer punishments?

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