Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
> On 28/09/23 09:55, Spike wrote:
>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Steve K | 1739 posts | 4 hours ago
>>> 0 likes
>>>
>>> I think we have a winner for a comment from my local "Next Door"
>>> discussion on all things War on Motorists. 20mph roads are "too slow and too safe"
>>>
>>> :-0
>>
>> Perhaps they don’t want to look like tits - something that cyclists
>> understand.
>>
> I do not give a fuck about looking like a tit.
> I ride my bicycle.

But many do so give a fuck about looking like a tit.

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Spike

Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
> On 28/09/23 02:58, Spike wrote:
>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:28:00 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
>>>> OldRidgeback | 4486 posts | 3 hours ago
>>>> 2 likes
>>>>
>>>> I commute on two wheels along some very busy arterial roads in South
>>>> London and have done for many years. What always strikes me is how many
>>>> cars I filter past on my 26km journey. And it's of note how many of them
>>>> have just one person inside too. People commuting by car seem to have no
>>>> understanding of how long they sit waiting in traffic queues. On the few
>>>> occasions I've had to use my car, either to take or get something from
>>>> the office, the different in commute time is substantial.
>>
>>> As long as cyclists are not "holding them up" they will happily sit
>>> there for hours on end.
>>
>> In the warm, in the dry, relaxing music on the stereo, not suffering the
>> burping, farting, sneezing, or coughing of close-packed passengers on
>> grubby public transport; or need to have a shower and change of clothes
>> after locking up the bicycle.
>>
>>> Most odd.
>>
>> Not really…
>>
> There is no actual 'need' to have a shower and a change of clothes.

Don’t tell me, tell the cyclists who claim they need a shower after
arriving at work. I last rode a bicycle on my 16th birthday, whereupon I
threw it away, sat astride my motorcycle, and never looked back to the
bicycle era.

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Spike

Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:45:10 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:
>
>>>
>> There is no actual 'need' to have a shower and a change of clothes.
>
> Exactly - I got a shower at home before I set off for work.
> Why would I need another one 35 minutes later?

Ever heard of ‘personal hygiene’?

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Spike

Quote:

There is set to be disruption on the M4 this weekend as people protest over the new 20mph speed limit in Wales. Around 100 to 300 protesters are set to take part on Saturday (September 30).

The group, who are said to be "car enthusiasts", are expected to block the Prince of Wales Bridge and drive at 20mph towards Cardiff Gate.

Yes - that's right. They are so angry about 20mph limits on residential roads in Wales that they are going to drive along the motorway at 20mph...

Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Quote:
>
> There is set to be disruption on the M4 this weekend as people
> protest over the new 20mph speed limit in Wales. Around 100 to 300
> protesters are set to take part on Saturday (September 30).
>
> The group, who are said to be "car enthusiasts", are expected to
> block the Prince of Wales Bridge and drive at 20mph towards Cardiff Gate.
>
> Yes - that's right. They are so angry about 20mph limits on residential
> roads in Wales that they are going to drive along the motorway at 20mph...

So helping save the planet, or the Boardman edict of helping to meet our
climate targets, are suddenly irrelevant? Well, well. Talk about two-faced.

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Spike

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:45:10 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

> There is no actual 'need' to have a shower and a change of clothes.

I had a change of clothes at work and I even washed and dried them there as we had a washing machine and tumble drier.

On 28/09/23 22:27, Spike wrote:
> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>> On 27/09/23 23:31, Spike wrote:
>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>> On 27/09/23 11:29, Spike wrote:
>>>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/09/23 10:10, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> belugabob | 360 posts | 2 hours ago
>>>>>>>> 5 likes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most cyclists know this, as they've witnessed MGIF drivers simply get to
>>>>>>>> the next set of traffic lights earlier. The traffic light sequence is
>>>>>>>> what truly dictates average traffic speeds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would cyclists be interested in red travel lights?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are very pretty. They are a signal for me to stop so that I can
>>>>>> watch the delicious miniskirted floosies walking by.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s not very PC…
>>>>>
>>>> I am not PC.
>>>> Do you want me not to stop at red lights, so that I can be PC?
>>>
>>> You seem to have shifted the goalposts there.
>>>
>> EH?
>> This thread seems to be about bicyclists and red lights. Some other
>> aspects were added, such as floosies and PC, but it is still about
>> bicyclists and red lights.
>
> Nope, you shifted the goalposts by introducing ‘delicious miniskirted
> floosies ‘…
>
Fucking hell!
Do you want me to stop at red lights or not?

On 28/09/23 22:34, Spike wrote:
> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:45:10 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> There is no actual 'need' to have a shower and a change of clothes.
>>
>> Exactly - I got a shower at home before I set off for work.
>> Why would I need another one 35 minutes later?
>
> Ever heard of ‘personal hygiene’?
>
Yes

On 28/09/23 22:33, Spike wrote:
> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>> On 28/09/23 02:58, Spike wrote:
>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:28:00 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
>>>>> OldRidgeback | 4486 posts | 3 hours ago
>>>>> 2 likes
>>>>>
>>>>> I commute on two wheels along some very busy arterial roads in South
>>>>> London and have done for many years. What always strikes me is how many
>>>>> cars I filter past on my 26km journey. And it's of note how many of them
>>>>> have just one person inside too. People commuting by car seem to have no
>>>>> understanding of how long they sit waiting in traffic queues. On the few
>>>>> occasions I've had to use my car, either to take or get something from
>>>>> the office, the different in commute time is substantial.
>>>
>>>> As long as cyclists are not "holding them up" they will happily sit
>>>> there for hours on end.
>>>
>>> In the warm, in the dry, relaxing music on the stereo, not suffering the
>>> burping, farting, sneezing, or coughing of close-packed passengers on
>>> grubby public transport; or need to have a shower and change of clothes
>>> after locking up the bicycle.
>>>
>>>> Most odd.
>>>
>>> Not really…
>>>
>> There is no actual 'need' to have a shower and a change of clothes.
>
> Don’t tell me, tell the cyclists who claim they need a shower after
> arriving at work. I last rode a bicycle on my 16th birthday, whereupon I
> threw it away, sat astride my motorcycle, and never looked back to the
> bicycle era.
>
Good for you.
Not for me.

On 28/09/23 22:28, Spike wrote:
> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>> On 28/09/23 09:55, Spike wrote:
>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Steve K | 1739 posts | 4 hours ago
>>>> 0 likes
>>>>
>>>> I think we have a winner for a comment from my local "Next Door"
>>>> discussion on all things War on Motorists. 20mph roads are "too slow and too safe"
>>>>
>>>> :-0
>>>
>>> Perhaps they don’t want to look like tits - something that cyclists
>>> understand.
>>>
>> I do not give a fuck about looking like a tit.
>> I ride my bicycle.
>
> But many do so give a fuck about looking like a tit.
>
I don't give a fuck about them neither.
I ride my bicycle.

On 26/09/2023 17:29, Spike wrote:
> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>> On 26/09/23 10:10, Spike wrote:
>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> belugabob | 360 posts | 2 hours ago
>>>> 5 likes
>>>>
>>>> Most cyclists know this, as they've witnessed MGIF drivers simply get to
>>>> the next set of traffic lights earlier. The traffic light sequence is
>>>> what truly dictates average traffic speeds
>>>
>>> Why would cyclists be interested in red travel lights?
>>>
>> They are very pretty. They are a signal for me to stop so that I can
>> watch the delicious miniskirted floosies walking by.
>
> That’s not very PC…

Who cares?

It's Peter at his most dependably entertaining.

On 27/09/2023 07:27, Simon Mason wrote:
> OldRidgeback | 4486 posts | 3 hours ago
> 2 likes
>
> I commute on two wheels along some very busy arterial roads in South London and have done for many years. What always strikes me is how many cars I filter past on my 26km journey. And it's of note how many of them have just one person inside too.

What's wrong with that?

Should commuters be forced to bring along someone who has no need to
make the same journey or something?

If so, why?

> People commuting by car seem to have no understanding of how long they sit waiting in traffic queues.

Campaign for properly phased traffic lights for optimum traffic flow.

On 27/09/2023 18:41, Peter Keller wrote:
> On 27/09/23 23:31, Spike wrote:
>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>> On 27/09/23 11:29, Spike wrote:
>>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>>> On 26/09/23 10:10, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> belugabob | 360 posts | 2 hours ago
>>>>>>> 5 likes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most cyclists know this, as they've witnessed MGIF drivers simply
>>>>>>> get to
>>>>>>> the next set of traffic lights earlier. The traffic light
>>>>>>> sequence is
>>>>>>> what truly dictates average traffic speeds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would cyclists be interested in red travel lights?
>>>>>>
>>>>> They are very pretty. They are a signal for me to stop so that I can
>>>>> watch the delicious miniskirted floosies walking by.
>>>>
>>>> That’s not very PC…
>>>>
>>> I am not PC.
>>> Do you want me not to stop at red lights, so that I can be PC?
>>
>> You seem to have shifted the goalposts there.
>>
> EH?
> This thread seems to be about bicyclists and red lights. Some other
> aspects were added, such as floosies and PC, but it is still about
> bicyclists and red lights.

You tell 'im, Peter! :-)

On 28/09/2023 04:34, Spike wrote:
> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:45:10 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> There is no actual 'need' to have a shower and a change of clothes.
>>
>> Exactly - I got a shower at home before I set off for work.
>> Why would I need another one 35 minutes later?
>
> Ever heard of ‘personal hygiene’?

Apparently not.

Yes - that's right. They are so angry about 20mph limits on residential roads in Wales that they are going to drive along the motorway at 20mph...

---------------------------

No, no, no this cannot be right, my car simply can't go at 20 mph, it would burn out the clutch, knacker the gearbox and the fuel tank would empty in minutes.

Now do that speed in a residential area, guys and hey presto!

"This DIY approach by drivers saves us a lot of glue and gaffer tape" said a JSO spokesman.

PS Has THAT petition now exceeded the number of driving licence holders in Wales?

On 29/09/23 14:51, JNugent wrote:
> On 26/09/2023 17:29, Spike wrote:
>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>> On 26/09/23 10:10, Spike wrote:
>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> belugabob | 360 posts | 2 hours ago
>>>>> 5 likes
>>>>>
>>>>> Most cyclists know this, as they've witnessed MGIF drivers simply
>>>>> get to
>>>>> the next set of traffic lights earlier. The traffic light sequence is
>>>>> what truly dictates average traffic speeds
>>>>
>>>> Why would cyclists be interested in red travel lights?
>>>>
>>> They are very pretty. They are a signal for me to stop so that I can
>>> watch the delicious miniskirted floosies walking by.
>>
>> That’s not very PC…
>
> Who cares?
>
> It's Peter at his most dependably entertaining.

:=)

JNugent <jennings&co@mail.com> wrote:
> On 27/09/2023 07:27, Simon Mason wrote:
>> OldRidgeback | 4486 posts | 3 hours ago
>> 2 likes
>>
>> I commute on two wheels along some very busy arterial roads in South
>> London and have done for many years. What always strikes me is how many
>> cars I filter past on my 26km journey. And it's of note how many of them
>> have just one person inside too.
>
> What's wrong with that?

> Should commuters be forced to bring along someone who has no need to
> make the same journey or something?
>
> If so, why?
>
>> People commuting by car seem to have no understanding of how long they
>> sit waiting in traffic queues.

> Campaign for properly phased traffic lights for optimum traffic flow.

Typical Mason Mal de Discours Syndrome (MdDS):

Campaign for years for traffic-calming measures, LTNs that force traffic
onto traffic-calmed roads, 20mph limits, cycles lanes to replace traffic
lanes, Highway Code changes prioritising cycles, traffic lights
prioritising cyclists, and all the rest.

When this self-fulfilling prophecy comes together, he’s right up there with
the posts he made above saying he can cycle faster!

You couldn’t make it up…

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Spike

Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
> On 28/09/23 22:27, Spike wrote:
>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>> On 27/09/23 23:31, Spike wrote:
>>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>>> On 27/09/23 11:29, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/09/23 10:10, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> belugabob | 360 posts | 2 hours ago
>>>>>>>>> 5 likes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most cyclists know this, as they've witnessed MGIF drivers simply get to
>>>>>>>>> the next set of traffic lights earlier. The traffic light sequence is
>>>>>>>>> what truly dictates average traffic speeds
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would cyclists be interested in red travel lights?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are very pretty. They are a signal for me to stop so that I can
>>>>>>> watch the delicious miniskirted floosies walking by.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s not very PC…
>>>>>>
>>>>> I am not PC.
>>>>> Do you want me not to stop at red lights, so that I can be PC?
>>>>
>>>> You seem to have shifted the goalposts there.
>>>>
>>> EH?
>>> This thread seems to be about bicyclists and red lights. Some other
>>> aspects were added, such as floosies and PC, but it is still about
>>> bicyclists and red lights.
>>
>> Nope, you shifted the goalposts by introducing ‘delicious miniskirted
>> floosies ‘…
>>
> Fucking hell!
> Do you want me to stop at red lights or not?

LOL

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Spike

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 7:48:09 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
> Yes - that's right. They are so angry about 20mph limits on residential roads in Wales that they are going to drive along the motorway at 20mph...
> ---------------------------
>
> No, no, no this cannot be right, my car simply can't go at 20 mph, it would burn out the clutch, knacker the gearbox and the fuel tank would empty in minutes.
>
> Now do that speed in a residential area, guys and hey presto!
>
> "This DIY approach by drivers saves us a lot of glue and gaffer tape" said a JSO spokesman.
>
> PS Has THAT petition now exceeded the number of driving licence holders in Wales?

Plus, won't they have to be "constantly staring" at their speedos so they don't exceed 20mph? :-0

On 29/09/23 21:25, Spike wrote:
> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>> On 28/09/23 22:27, Spike wrote:
>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>> On 27/09/23 23:31, Spike wrote:
>>>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>>>> On 27/09/23 11:29, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>> Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/09/23 10:10, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> belugabob | 360 posts | 2 hours ago
>>>>>>>>>> 5 likes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most cyclists know this, as they've witnessed MGIF drivers simply get to
>>>>>>>>>> the next set of traffic lights earlier. The traffic light sequence is
>>>>>>>>>> what truly dictates average traffic speeds
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would cyclists be interested in red travel lights?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are very pretty. They are a signal for me to stop so that I can
>>>>>>>> watch the delicious miniskirted floosies walking by.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s not very PC…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not PC.
>>>>>> Do you want me not to stop at red lights, so that I can be PC?
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to have shifted the goalposts there.
>>>>>
>>>> EH?
>>>> This thread seems to be about bicyclists and red lights. Some other
>>>> aspects were added, such as floosies and PC, but it is still about
>>>> bicyclists and red lights.
>>>
>>> Nope, you shifted the goalposts by introducing ‘delicious miniskirted
>>> floosies ‘…
>>>
>> Fucking hell!
>> Do you want me to stop at red lights or not?
>
> LOL
>
That is a no.