I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more so
than the ones I put in my win10 pc's

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Have a nice day!..

On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 11:47:55 +1100, Mighty Mouse
<"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

>
>I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more so
>than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>
To speed up WIN10 try writing DISK in bottom left search bar
Will show Disk Clean Op
At top
run as administrator
Then click, it's often slow in showing dialogue box, just wait and
click OK when required.
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote

> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference,much more so
> than the ones I put in my win10 pc's

How much physical ram in that PC and what do you do on that PC ?

Rod Speed wrote:
> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>
>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more
>> so  than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>
> How much physical ram in that PC

8 Gb.

> and what do you do on that PC ?

 just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing, Open
Office, etc., nothing special. Boot time into win7 reduced significantly
with the SSD.

--
Have a nice day!..

On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
<squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>
>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more so
>>> than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>
>> How much physical ram in that PC
>
> 8 Gb.
>
>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>
> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing, Open
> Office, etc., nothing special.

But presumably you close those when not using them.

What is the detail of the Win10 system ?

> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.

That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10 system
too ?

Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>
> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more so
> than the ones I put in my win10 pc's

I guess you did the Win7 installation much longer ago, so it's had
longer to bog down the way Windows always seems to after many years
of updates, accumulated registry junk from installed software, and
background processes. Since the Win10 PCs haven't got that bogged
down yet, there's less room for improvement via the SSD.

Also of course it depends on the particular SSDs and computer
hardware (particularly whether you usually have free RAM left).

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Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more
>>>> so  than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>
>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>
>> 8 Gb.

https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png

>>
>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>
>>   just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>
> But presumably you close those when not using them.

yes

>
> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?

https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg

>
>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>
> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
> system too ?

I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in the
boot time and functionality of the win7 PC

--
Have a nice day!..

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more so
>> than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
> I guess you did the Win7 installation much longer ago,

yep

> so it's had
> longer to bog down the way Windows always seems to after many years
> of updates, accumulated registry junk from installed software, and
> background processes. Since the Win10 PCs haven't got that bogged
> down yet, there's less room for improvement via the SSD.

I guess so

>
> Also of course it depends on the particular SSDs and computer
> hardware (particularly whether you usually have free RAM left).
>

--
Have a nice day!..

On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more
>>>>> so  than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>
>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>
>>> 8 Gb.
>
> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>
>>>
>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>
>>>   just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>
>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>
> yes
>
>>
>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>
> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>
>>
>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>
>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>> system too ?
>
> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in the
> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>

Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:

>On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more
>>>>>> so  than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>
>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>
>>>> 8 Gb.
>>
>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>
>>>>
>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>
>>>>   just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>
>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>
>> yes
>>
>>>
>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>
>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>
>>>
>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>
>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>> system too ?
>>
>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in the
>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>>
>
>Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>
Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
have on off buttons, get one with Au plug DC power supply)

Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button no sold out
Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
https://t.ly/c-t7D
This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
preference.
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:07:16 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more
>>>>>>> so than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>
>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>
>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>
>>>>> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>
>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>
>>> yes
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>
>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>
>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>> system too ?
>>>
>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in
>>> the
>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC

>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.

> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
> have on off buttons,

> get one with Au plug DC power supply)

Makes more sense to get some multi plug type plug boards

> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button no sold out
> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
> https://t.ly/c-t7D
> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
> preference.

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:54:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:07:16 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more
>>>>>>>> so than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>>
>>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>>
>>>> yes
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>>> system too ?
>>>>
>>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in
>>>> the
>>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>
>>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>
>> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
>> have on off buttons,
>
>> get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>
>Makes more sense to get some multi plug type plug boards
>
You have link? Don't know what you refer to?
I'm sure it's a good idea though.
>
>> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button no sold out
>> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
>> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
>> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
>> https://t.ly/c-t7D
>> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
>> preference.

On 7/02/2024 8:07 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much more
>>>>>>> so  than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>
>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>
>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>
>>>>>   just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>
>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>
>>> yes
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>
>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>
>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>> system too ?
>>>
>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in the
>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>>>
>>
>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>>
> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
> have on off buttons, get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>
> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button no sold out
> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
> https://t.ly/c-t7D
> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
> preference.

Those sorts of devices may be available locally from places like Umart.

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:02:49 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:54:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:07:16 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> so than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>>>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>>>
>>>>> yes
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>>>> system too ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in
>>>>> the
>>>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>>
>>>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>>
>>> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
>>> have on off buttons,
>>
>>> get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>>
>> Makes more sense to get some multi plug type plug boards

> You have link?

Ebay doesnt show purchases old enough
to show the one I bought half a dozen of.

There are some on Temu if you search on power
strip or power board. Not as good as mine tho.

> Don't know what you refer to?

Normal plug board that you plug power cables
or wall warts into, but which take all of Oz, US
and UK plugs. The temu ones only take Oz and US.

> I'm sure it's a good idea though.

Yeah very handy and mine actually grip the plug
much better than mine that only take Oz plugs.

>>> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button no sold out
>>> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
>>> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
>>> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
>>> https://t.ly/c-t7D
>>> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
>>> preference.

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 13:14:45 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:

>> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
>> have on off buttons, get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>>
>> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button no sold out
>> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
>> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
>> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
>> https://t.ly/c-t7D
>> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
>> preference.
>
>Those sorts of devices may be available locally from places like Umart.
>
Difference is cost
External reliable DC plug power supply important or your USB Terabyte
drives will die a horrible expensive death
>
From Temu
https://ibb.co/gR4Y0Xd
High Function And High Power 10-port HUB, This Device Can Solve The
Home Computer To Expand The USB Interface Is Not Enough Trouble Office
Business Game Finance And Other Occasions To Use, But Also Equipped
With 12V High Power Supply, Some Business Game Finance And Other
External Large Capacity Hard Disk Box
***AU$51.49***
>
Australia, still probably made in China though
https://t.ly/SB7QV
10 Port USB 3.0 Hub With On/Off Switches
Part No. 43370
**$209.00**
>
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:14:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:02:49 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:54:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:07:16 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> so than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web surfing,
>>>>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>>>>> system too ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>>>
>>>>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>>>
>>>> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
>>>> have on off buttons,
>>>
>>>> get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>>>
>>> Makes more sense to get some multi plug type plug boards
>
>> You have link?
>
>Ebay doesnt show purchases old enough
>to show the one I bought half a dozen of.
>
>There are some on Temu if you search on power
>strip or power board. Not as good as mine tho.
>
>> Don't know what you refer to?
>
>Normal plug board that you plug power cables
>or wall warts into, but which take all of Oz, US
>and UK plugs. The temu ones only take Oz and US.
>
>> I'm sure it's a good idea though.
>
>Yeah very handy and mine actually grip the plug
>much better than mine that only take Oz plugs.
>
Tried lookig on Ebay and Temu to no avail, but will tray again later
With External USB drives I've found at cost the power supply has to be
good and stable or they permanantly crash in a short while
>
So far all my compture stuff has come with a Au plug which fit into
multi power boards.
Bought this on Temu which is very handy save power point usb chargers
https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
AU$38.23
>
>>>> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button now sold out
>>>> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
>>>> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
>>>> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
>>>> https://t.ly/c-t7D
>>>> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
>>>> preference.
--
Petzl
Australian's continue to vote for and believe slogans?

"My first act as Prime Minister will be to raise the speed limit, lower the
fines, cancel the tolls. ban any future virus lock downs.
Thank you " Anthony Albanese

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:51:22 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:14:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:02:49 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:54:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:07:16 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>>>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>> so than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web
>>>>>>>>> surfing,
>>>>>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>>>>>> system too ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>>>>
>>>>>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>>>>
>>>>> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
>>>>> have on off buttons,
>>>>
>>>>> get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>>>>
>>>> Makes more sense to get some multi plug type plug boards
>>
>>> You have link?
>>
>> Ebay doesnt show purchases old enough
>> to show the one I bought half a dozen of.
>>
>> There are some on Temu if you search on power
>> strip or power board. Not as good as mine tho.
>>
>>> Don't know what you refer to?
>>
>> Normal plug board that you plug power cables
>> or wall warts into, but which take all of Oz, US
>> and UK plugs. The temu ones only take Oz and US.
>>
>>> I'm sure it's a good idea though.
>>
>> Yeah very handy and mine actually grip the plug
>> much better than mine that only take Oz plugs.

> Tried lookig on Ebay and Temu to no avail, but will tray again later

Use the search term <power board universal> on ebay

> With External USB drives I've found at cost the power supply hasto be
> good and stable or they permanantly crash in a short while

Mine, all seagate have always come with one

> So far all my compture stuff has come witha Au plug which fit into
> multi power boards.

> Bought this on Temu which is very handy save power point usb chargers
> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
> AU$38.23

I do it the other way, using one of these and only need to
charge one thing at a time. I have another in the bedroom
if I need to charge more than one, but so far I have never
needed to do that.
https://share.temu.com/k1FJA5odp9A

>>>>> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button now sold out
>>>>> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
>>>>> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
>>>>> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
>>>>> https://t.ly/c-t7D
>>>>> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
>>>>> preference.

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:09:45 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:51:22 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:14:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:02:49 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:54:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:07:16 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>>>>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much
>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>> so than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web
>>>>>>>>>> surfing,
>>>>>>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>>>>>>> system too ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
>>>>>> have on off buttons,
>>>>>
>>>>>> get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes more sense to get some multi plug type plug boards
>>>
>>>> You have link?
>>>
>>> Ebay doesnt show purchases old enough
>>> to show the one I bought half a dozen of.
>>>
>>> There are some on Temu if you search on power
>>> strip or power board. Not as good as mine tho.
>>>
>>>> Don't know what you refer to?
>>>
>>> Normal plug board that you plug power cables
>>> or wall warts into, but which take all of Oz, US
>>> and UK plugs. The temu ones only take Oz and US.
>>>
>>>> I'm sure it's a good idea though.
>>>
>>> Yeah very handy and mine actually grip the plug
>>> much better than mine that only take Oz plugs.
>
>> Tried lookig on Ebay and Temu to no avail, but will tray again later
>
>Use the search term <power board universal> on ebay
>
OK got it, lowest price/postage on Ebay
https://t.ly/6U-r_
>
>> With External USB drives I've found at cost the power supply hasto be
>> good and stable or they permanantly crash in a short while
>
>Mine, all seagate have always come with one
>
Used to but haven't now for years AFAIN?
When External USB some time ago, they came with power supply they were
very reliable, but around 500 MB
>
>> So far all my compture stuff has come witha Au plug which fit into
>> multi power boards.
>
>> Bought this on Temu which is very handy save power point usb chargers
>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>> AU$38.23
>
>I do it the other way, using one of these and only need to
>charge one thing at a time. I have another in the bedroom
>if I need to charge more than one, but so far I have never
>needed to do that.
>https://share.temu.com/k1FJA5odp9A
>
Don't like a phone in bedroom so just have it connected to my computer
for data access and charging.
looked at them some time ago, because some of my USB gadgets need hard
to fit micro usb connections, like electric stove lighter,
https://t.ly/OLvoY shop around
Eye water bottle that fogs water for eyes (very good cheaper than
eye drops). And a number of others
>
>>>>>> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button now sold out
>>>>>> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
>>>>>> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which overrides
>>>>>> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
>>>>>> https://t.ly/c-t7D
>>>>>> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is my
>>>>>> preference.

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:48:34 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:09:45 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:51:22 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:14:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:02:49 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:54:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:07:16 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:59:31 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/02/2024 10:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:30:31 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>>>>>>>> <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I put a SSD in my win7 PC and it made a huge difference, much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so than the ones I put in my win10 pc's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How much physical ram in that PC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Gb.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/win7.png
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and what do you do on that PC ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> just the usual stuff.. email, social media, youtube, web
>>>>>>>>>>> surfing,
>>>>>>>>>>> Open Office, etc., nothing special.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But presumably you close those when not using them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the detail of the Win10 system ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Boot time into win7 reduced significantly with the SSD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's not surprising, but why don't you get that with the Win10
>>>>>>>>>> system too ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do get that. It's just that there's more noticeable improvement
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> boot time and functionality of the win7 PC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Win 10 has faster boot time than Win 7 anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pays to have USB drives turned off (if possible, my multiple ports
>>>>>>> have on off buttons,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> get one with Au plug DC power supply)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes more sense to get some multi plug type plug boards
>>>>
>>>>> You have link?
>>>>
>>>> Ebay doesnt show purchases old enough
>>>> to show the one I bought half a dozen of.
>>>>
>>>> There are some on Temu if you search on power
>>>> strip or power board. Not as good as mine tho.
>>>>
>>>>> Don't know what you refer to?
>>>>
>>>> Normal plug board that you plug power cables
>>>> or wall warts into, but which take all of Oz, US
>>>> and UK plugs. The temu ones only take Oz and US.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure it's a good idea though.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah very handy and mine actually grip the plug
>>>> much better than mine that only take Oz plugs.
>>
>>> Tried lookig on Ebay and Temu to no avail, but will tray again later
>>
>> Use the search term <power board universal> on ebay
>>
> OK got it, lowest price/postage on Ebay
> https://t.ly/6U-r_
>>
>>> With External USB drives I've found at cost the power supply hasto be
>>> good and stable or they permanantly crash in a short while
>>
>> Mine, all seagate have always come with one

> Used to but haven't now for years AFAIN?

Wrong.

> When External USB some time ago, they came with power supply they were
> very reliable, but around 500 MB

Mine have been multi TB for years now.

>>> So far all my compture stuff has come witha Au plug which fit into
>>> multi power boards.
>>
>>> Bought this on Temu which is very handy save power point usb chargers
>>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>>> AU$38.23
>>
>> I do it the other way, using one of these and only need to
>> charge one thing at a time. I have another in the bedroom
>> if I need to charge more than one, but so far I have never
>> needed to do that.
>> https://share.temu.com/k1FJA5odp9A

> Don't like a phone in bedroom

I do, so I can use it before I get up, particularly in the winter.

> so just have it connected to my computer
> for data access and charging.

I use what I listed for charging and hardly ever
use it for data access except for backup of the
phone and even then use wifi.

> looked at them some time ago, because some of my USB gadgets need hard
> to fit micro usb connections, like electric stove lighter,
> https://t.ly/OLvoY shop around
> Eye water bottle that fogs water for eyes (very good cheaper than
> eye drops). And a number of others

The only one I do is the hair clipper trimmer.

The main hair clippers have their own chargers

>>>>>>> Mines 10 USB ports each with on/off button now sold out
>>>>>>> Temu page postage included in price. but make sure for electric DC.
>>>>>>> you use a Au IP not VPN, or confuses the Chinese BOT which
>>>>>>> overrides
>>>>>>> you postal address? Hate using travel adaptors.
>>>>>>> https://t.ly/c-t7D
>>>>>>> This is only 7 port but DC powered, look or wait for a 10 port is
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> preference.

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 19:50:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> With External USB drives I've found at cost the power supply hasto be
>>>> good and stable or they permanantly crash in a short while
>>>
>>> Mine, all seagate have always come with one
>
>> Used to but haven't now for years AFAIN?
>
>Wrong.

>> When External USB some time ago, they came with power supply they were
>> very reliable, but around 500 MB
>
>Mine have been multi TB for years now.
>
OK will check but have a number of multi TB USB drives for my video
WiFi network WDTV which works with WIN10
>
>>>> So far all my compture stuff has come witha Au plug which fit into
>>>> multi power boards.
>>>
>>>> Bought this on Temu which is very handy save power point usb chargers
>>>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>>>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>>>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>>>> AU$38.23
>>>
>>> I do it the other way, using one of these and only need to
>>> charge one thing at a time. I have another in the bedroom
>>> if I need to charge more than one, but so far I have never
>>> needed to do that.
>>> https://share.temu.com/k1FJA5odp9A
>
>> Don't like a phone in bedroom
>
>I do, so I can use it before I get up, particularly in the winter.
>
Just like watching movies and TV shows in bed before dropping off
Bought a 10 inch Tablet from TEMU which does the job tried buying
bluetooth earphone 1st was broken, 2nd worked then broke neither had
great sound quality
(just Chinese broken crap TEAC - Total East Asian Crap),
TEMU give free post back to Australian depot they send you a
pre-filled form to stick on parcel. Full refund. but a nuisance.
>
>> so just have it connected to my computer
>> for data access and charging.
>
>I use what I listed for charging and hardly ever
>use it for data access except for backup of the
>phone and even then use wifi.
>
Don't do much data just the odd photo, Found it easer to share to
Gmail and download to PC from there.
>
>> looked at them some time ago, because some of my USB gadgets need hard
>> to fit micro usb connections, like electric stove lighter,
>> https://t.ly/OLvoY shop around
>> Eye water bottle that fogs water for eyes (very good cheaper than
>> eye drops). And a number of others
>
>The only one I do is the hair clipper trimmer.
>
>The main hair clippers have their own chargers
>
Mine just plug into power but getting dated.
Just scanning my PC now it don't like browser on while doing it after
Malware with SpyHunter.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> With External USB drives I've found at cost the power supply hasto be
>>>>> good and stable or they permanantly crash in a short while
>>>>
>>>> Mine, all seagate have always come with one
>>
>>> Used to but haven't now for years AFAIN?
>>
>> Wrong.
>
>>> When External USB some time ago, they came with power supply they were
>>> very reliable, but around 500 MB
>>
>> Mine have been multi TB for years now.
>>
> OK will check but have a number of multi TB USB drives for my video
> WiFi network WDTV which works with WIN10
>>
>>>>> So far all my compture stuff has come witha Au plug which fit into
>>>>> multi power boards.
>>>>
>>>>> Bought this on Temu which is very handy save power point usb chargers
>>>>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>>>>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>>>>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>>>>> AU$38.23

Trouble with that approach is that if it dies badly,
you have lost all your USB powered devices.

>>>> I do it the other way, using one of these and only need to
>>>> charge one thing at a time. I have another in the bedroom
>>>> if I need to charge more than one, but so far I have never
>>>> needed to do that.
>>>> https://share.temu.com/k1FJA5odp9A
>>
>>> Don't like a phone in bedroom
>>
>> I do, so I can use it before I get up, particularly in the winter.
>>
> Just like watching movies and TV shows in bed before dropping off
> Bought a 10 inch Tablet from TEMU which does the job tried buying
> bluetooth earphone 1st was broken, 2nd worked then broke neither had
> great sound quality
> (just Chinese broken crap TEAC - Total East Asian Crap),
> TEMU give free post back to Australian depot they send you a
> pre-filled form to stick on parcel. Full refund. but a nuisance.
>>
>>> so just have it connected to my computer
>>> for data access and charging.
>>
>> I use what I listed for charging and hardly ever
>> use it for data access except for backup of the
>> phone and even then use wifi.
>>
> Don't do much data just the odd photo, Found it easer to share to
> Gmail and download to PC from there.
>>
>>> looked at them some time ago, because some of my USB gadgets need hard
>>> to fit micro usb connections, like electric stove lighter,
>>> https://t.ly/OLvoY shop around
>>> Eye water bottle that fogs water for eyes (very good cheaper than
>>> eye drops). And a number of others
>>
>> The only one I do is the hair clipper trimmer.
>>
>> The main hair clippers have their own chargers
>>
> Mine just plug into power but getting dated.
> Just scanning my PC now it don't like browser on while doing it after
> Malware with SpyHunter.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 13:36:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>> Bought this on Temu which is very handy save power point usb chargers
>>>>>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>>>>>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>>>>>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>>>>>> AU$38.23
>
>Trouble with that approach is that if it dies badly,
>you have lost all your USB powered devices.
>
That is just a 20 port charging device,
NOT connected to my computer
--
Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Bought this on Temu which is veryhandy save power point usb chargers
>>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>>> AU$38.23

>> Trouble with that approach is that if it dies badly,
>> you have lost all your USB powered devices.

> That is just a 20 port charging device,
> NOT connected to my computer

But will kill all your USB powered devices that are plugged into it.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 16:30:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> Bought this on Temu which is veryhandy save power point usb chargers
>>>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>>>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>>>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>>>> AU$38.23
>
>>> Trouble with that approach is that if it dies badly,
>>> you have lost all your USB powered devices.
>
>> That is just a 20 port charging device,
>> NOT connected to my computer
>
>But will kill all your USB powered devices that are plugged into it.
>
Not that I see how, seems well made had it for a few months it's
reliable
No more than any USB charging device I suppose
Only have cheap gadgets plugged into it though
--
Petzl
With the exception of emergency aid for disasters such as floods and earthquakes,
most foreign aid is best described as taking money from poor people in rich countries
and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Corruption is endemic.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Bought this on Temu which is very
>>>>> handy save power point usb chargers
>>>>> https://ibb.co/bNNmdVB
>>>>> 100W/20A 20-Ports USB Charging Station, Multi Ports USB Charger For
>>>>> IPhone For Android Smartphones, Tablets, And Other USB Devices
>>>>> AU$38.23

>>>> Trouble with that approach is that if it dies badly,
>>>> you have lost all your USB powered devices.

>>> That is just a 20 port charging device,
>>> NOT connected to my computer

>> But will kill all your USB powered devices that are plugged into it.

> Not that I see how,

Watch Big Clive's utubes

> seems well made

Irrelevant to the circuit diagram.

> had it for a few months it's reliable

A few months proves nothing.

> No more than any USB charging device I suppose

Watch Big Clive's utubes

> Only have cheap gadgets plugged into it though