On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:42:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:45:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:27:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:14:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:54:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:29:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at this one now Rod
>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Storage-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0BZ447PVD?ref_=ast_sto_dp>
>>>>>> https://t.ly/kgelt
>>>>> What's wrong with the current one ?
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing yet (it's perfect), but like to wait till the latest model
>>>> price collapses, when/after their new model appears.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to check that it does our bands.
>>>
>>>> Says it will do 5G, 4G, 3G in Australia
>>>
>>> There is more than one band used for those in Oz.
>>>
>> This link shows the bands it will work with in Au
>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>
>Which says that 1 of the 5G bands is missing.
>
I only use 4G but if I were on 5G and in unlikely event needed to use
that band Moto would switch to 4G or even 3 G
>
>> can't copy and past?
>
>>>> My problem is with mobile reception, the Moto is clear in receiving
>>>> and talking. the Moto signal strength APP, ranges from poor to fair at
>>>> best,
>>>
>>>> Telstra is worse. Neighbours company Iphone (on telstra) very poor he
>>>> often has to go outside to listen to calls.
>>>
>>>> A lot of hills and trees?
>>>
>>> Nothing to do with that.
>
>> Well reception goes up on other side of hill when on bus.
>
>Because you are closer to the tower you are using.
>
Not really the one I are switched to is the closest, just ancient
version, When the bus goes away from my tower it switched to the
modern one.
>
>> But goes past recent towers
>
>But you don't know whose towers they are.
>
Yep there are 3 Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, I use Optus the only one
that sometimes gives a fair to poor signal.
>
>> The home Mobile transmitter is on top ofwater tower, but been there for
>> decades.
>
>So is unlikely to be the problem with hills and trees.
>
I think it is ancient technology on all 3 transmitters
>
>And mobile towers aren't all omnidirectional.
>
>>>> The Moto was a major improvement over the expensive Samsung, Amaysim
>>>> worked with Samsung but bad reception, the Moto perfect reception.
>>>> This Reception ability, was confirmed as amazing by my Kiwi mate in
>>>> the kiwi bush.
>
>>> No reason to believe that this new one would be any better.
>
>> Well I did look and from what I then read was Motorola Mobiles
>> make/made the best Android recive/transmion mobiles,
>
>And yet it doesnt work well at your place.
>
Moto works anywhere. Voice and sound is clear even when signal is poor
which it often is, never above fair at my place
>
>> Iphone was rated a bit beter than them. proved true to me,
>
>But still isnt very satisfactory and you have no idea
>which band was used in that very poor test in Which.
>
I use 4G all the time. Average strength is poor but Moto is still
sending and receiving clear. Other mobiles static unuseablw unckuding
iPhone.
>
>>>> A windows phone (on Amaysim) was good but stropped being made.
>>>> Not compatible for the Q-code Covid entry APP into stores, hotels,
>>>> etc. So "Johnz" pointed me to a Moto, turned out good advice.
>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>> https://t.ly/iFeBC
>>>
>>>> Not sold in Australia yet this is a older model sold in Australia
>>>> which also does all 3 bands.
>>>
>>> There aren't just 3 bands. Each of the Gs has more than one band.
>
>> This link shows the bands it covers
>> <https://www.mobileciti.com.au/motorola-edge-40-5g-eclipse-black?gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJPrnhPx3XLziXKHgr0-vsktrBGBO-af3-iPlK78WPMOFlBkq6PdrHxoC-NcQAvD_BwE&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=00_Smart+Shopping+campaign&utm_term=&utm_source=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_acc=4638778441&hsa_mt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&hsa_cam=1578143160&hsa_kw=&gad_source=1>
>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>> can't copy and past?
--
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sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
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for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
anticipate so MANY votes. Confirmed by @RealMikeLindell documentary,
'Absolute Truth' Pass it on.

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:47:37 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:42:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:45:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:27:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:14:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:54:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:29:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at this one now Rod
>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Storage-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0BZ447PVD?ref_=ast_sto_dp>
>>>>>>> https://t.ly/kgelt
>>>>>> What's wrong with the current one ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing yet (it's perfect), but like to wait till the latest model
>>>>> price collapses, when/after their new model appears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to check that it does our bands.
>>>>
>>>>> Says it will do 5G, 4G, 3G in Australia
>>>>
>>>> There is more than one band used for those in Oz.
>>>>
>>> This link shows the bands it will work with in Au
>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>
>> Which says that 1 of the 5G bands is missing.
>>
> I only use 4G but if I were on 5G and in unlikely event needed to use
> that band Moto would switch to 4G or even 3 G
>>
>>> can't copy and past?
>>
>>>>> My problem is with mobile reception, the Moto is clear in receiving
>>>>> and talking. the Moto signal strength APP, ranges from poor to fair
>>>>> at
>>>>> best,
>>>>
>>>>> Telstra is worse. Neighbours company Iphone (on telstra) very poor he
>>>>> often has to go outside to listen to calls.
>>>>
>>>>> A lot of hills and trees?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing to do with that.
>>
>>> Well reception goes up on other side of hill when on bus.
>>
>> Because you are closer to the tower you are using.
>>
> Not really the one I are switched to is the closest, just ancient
> version, When the bus goes away from my tower it switched to the
> modern one.
>>
>>> But goes past recent towers
>>
>> But you don't know whose towers they are.
>>
> Yep there are 3 Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, I use Optus the only one
> that sometimes gives a fair to poor signal.
>>
>>> The home Mobile transmitter is on top ofwater tower, but been there
>>> for
>>> decades.
>>
>> So is unlikely to be the problem with hills and trees.
>>
> I think it is ancient technology on all 3 transmitters
>>
>> And mobile towers aren't all omnidirectional.
>>
>>>>> The Moto was a major improvement over the expensive Samsung, Amaysim
>>>>> worked with Samsung but bad reception, the Moto perfect reception.
>>>>> This Reception ability, was confirmed as amazing by my Kiwi mate in
>>>>> the kiwi bush.
>>
>>>> No reason to believe that this new one would be any better.
>>
>>> Well I did look and from what I then read was Motorola Mobiles
>>> make/made the best Android recive/transmion mobiles,
>>
>> And yet it doesnt work well at your place.
>>
> Moto works anywhere. Voice and sound is clear even when signal is poor
> which it often is, never above fair at my place
>>
>>> Iphone was rated a bit beter than them. proved true to me,
>>
>> But still isnt very satisfactory and you have no idea
>> which band was used in that very poor test in Which.
>>
> I use 4G all the time. Average strength is poor but Moto is still
> sending and receiving clear. Other mobiles static unuseablw unckuding
> iPhone.
>>
>>>>> A windows phone (on Amaysim) was good but stropped being made.
>>>>> Not compatible for the Q-code Covid entry APP into stores, hotels,
>>>>> etc. So "Johnz" pointed me to a Moto, turned out good advice.
>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>> https://t.ly/iFeBC
>>>>
>>>>> Not sold in Australia yet this is a older model sold in Australia
>>>>> which also does all 3 bands.
>>>>
>>>> There aren't just 3 bands. Each of the Gs has more than one band.
>>
>>> This link shows the bands it covers
>>> <https://www.mobileciti.com.au/motorola-edge-40-5g-eclipse-black?gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJPrnhPx3XLziXKHgr0-vsktrBGBO-af3-iPlK78WPMOFlBkq6PdrHxoC-NcQAvD_BwE&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=00_Smart+Shopping+campaign&utm_term=&utm_source=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_acc=4638778441&hsa_mt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&hsa_cam=1578143160&hsa_kw=&gad_source=1>
>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>> can't copy and past?

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:47:37 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:42:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:45:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:27:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:14:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:54:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:29:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at this one now Rod
>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Storage-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0BZ447PVD?ref_=ast_sto_dp>
>>>>>>> https://t.ly/kgelt
>>>>>> What's wrong with the current one ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing yet (it's perfect), but like to wait till the latest model
>>>>> price collapses, when/after their new model appears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to check that it does our bands.
>>>>
>>>>> Says it will do 5G, 4G, 3G in Australia
>>>>
>>>> There is more than one band used for those in Oz.
>>>>
>>> This link shows the bands it will work with in Au
>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>
>> Which says that 1 of the 5G bands is missing.

> I only use 4G but if I were on 5G and in unlikely event needed to use
> that band Moto would switch to 4G or even 3 G

But you may find that that 5G band gives you a much
better result given that 5G needs a lot more bases.

>>> can't copy and past?
>>
>>>>> My problem is with mobile reception, the Moto is clear in receiving
>>>>> and talking. the Moto signal strength APP, ranges from poor to fair
>>>>> at
>>>>> best,
>>>>
>>>>> Telstra is worse. Neighbours company Iphone (on telstra) very poor he
>>>>> often has to go outside to listen to calls.
>>>>
>>>>> A lot of hills and trees?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing to do with that.
>>
>>> Well reception goes up on other side of hill when on bus.
>>
>> Because you are closer to the tower you are using.

> Not really the one I are switched to is the closest, just ancient
> version,

You have no idea how ancient the actual base
is. They all had to be upgraded for 4G and that
happened quite recently, only a few years now.

> When the bus goes away from mytower it switched to the modern one.

They will both have the same electronics
because of the 4G upgrade.

>>> But goes past recent towers
>>
>> But you don't know whose towers they are.

> Yep there are 3 Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, I use Optusthe only one that
> sometimes gives a fair to poor signal.

But that may not be true with 5G

>>> The home Mobile transmitter is on top ofwater tower, but been there
>>> for
>>> decades.
>>
>> So is unlikely to be the problem with hills and trees.

> I think it is ancient technology on all 3 transmitters

You are wrong. They all had to be upgraded for 4G

>> And mobile towers aren't all omnidirectional.

>>>>> The Moto was a major improvement over the expensive Samsung, Amaysim
>>>>> worked with Samsung but bad reception, the Moto perfect reception.
>>>>> This Reception ability, was confirmed as amazing by my Kiwi mate in
>>>>> the kiwi bush.
>>
>>>> No reason to believe that this new one would be any better.
>>
>>> Well I did look and from what I then read was Motorola Mobiles
>>> make/made the best Android recive/transmion mobiles,
>>
>> And yet it doesnt work well at your place.

> Moto works anywhere.

You just said that it doesnt.

> Voice and sound is clear even when signal is poor
> which it often is, never above fair at my place

So why are you buying a new phone ?

>>> Iphone was rated a bit beter than them. proved true to me,
>>
>> But still isnt very satisfactory and you have no idea
>> which band was used in that very poor test in Which.

> I use 4G all the time. Average strength is poor but Moto is still
> sending and receiving clear. Other mobiles static unuseablw unckuding
> iPhone.

BULLSHIT.

>>>>> A windows phone (on Amaysim) was good but stropped being made.
>>>>> Not compatible for the Q-code Covid entry APP into stores, hotels,
>>>>> etc. So "Johnz" pointed me to a Moto, turned out good advice.
>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>> https://t.ly/iFeBC
>>>>
>>>>> Not sold in Australia yet this is a older model sold in Australia
>>>>> which also does all 3 bands.
>>>>
>>>> There aren't just 3 bands. Each of the Gs has more than one band.
>>
>>> This link shows the bands it covers
>>> <https://www.mobileciti.com.au/motorola-edge-40-5g-eclipse-black?gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJPrnhPx3XLziXKHgr0-vsktrBGBO-af3-iPlK78WPMOFlBkq6PdrHxoC-NcQAvD_BwE&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=00_Smart+Shopping+campaign&utm_term=&utm_source=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_acc=4638778441&hsa_mt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&hsa_cam=1578143160&hsa_kw=&gad_source=1>
>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>> can't copy and past?

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:10:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:47:37 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:42:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:45:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:27:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:14:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:54:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:29:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking at this one now Rod
>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Storage-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0BZ447PVD?ref_=ast_sto_dp>
>>>>>>>> https://t.ly/kgelt
>>>>>>> What's wrong with the current one ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing yet (it's perfect), but like to wait till the latest model
>>>>>> price collapses, when/after their new model appears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to check that it does our bands.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Says it will do 5G, 4G, 3G in Australia
>>>>>
>>>>> There is more than one band used for those in Oz.
>>>>>
>>>> This link shows the bands it will work with in Au
>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>
>>> Which says that 1 of the 5G bands is missing.
>
>> I only use 4G but if I were on 5G and in unlikely event needed to use
>> that band Moto would switch to 4G or even 3 G
>
>But you may find that that 5G band gives you a much
>better result given that 5G needs a lot more bases.
>
>>>> can't copy and past?
>>>
>>>>>> My problem is with mobile reception, the Moto is clear in receiving
>>>>>> and talking. the Moto signal strength APP, ranges from poor to fair
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Telstra is worse. Neighbours company Iphone (on telstra) very poor he
>>>>>> often has to go outside to listen to calls.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of hills and trees?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing to do with that.
>>>
>>>> Well reception goes up on other side of hill when on bus.
>>>
>>> Because you are closer to the tower you are using.
>
>> Not really the one I are switched to is the closest, just ancient
>> version,
>
>You have no idea how ancient the actual base
>is. They all had to be upgraded for 4G and that
>happened quite recently, only a few years now.
>
>> When the bus goes away from mytower it switched to the modern one.
>
>They will both have the same electronics
>because of the 4G upgrade.
>
>>>> But goes past recent towers
>>>
>>> But you don't know whose towers they are.
>
>> Yep there are 3 Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, I use Optusthe only one that
>> sometimes gives a fair to poor signal.
>
>But that may not be true with 5G
>
was 3G when I bought my Samsung,
yes when it went to 4G my Samsung auto became 4G
>
>>>> The home Mobile transmitter is on top ofwater tower, but been there
>>>> for
>>>> decades.
>>>
>>> So is unlikely to be the problem with hills and trees.
>
>> I think it is ancient technology on all 3 transmitters
>
>You are wrong. They all had to be upgraded for 4G
>
Tried Vodaphone that never worked. Telstra worked rarely, Amaysim
worked but a bit more than scratchy.
When I bought the Moto my mobile became perfect.

>>> And mobile towers aren't all omnidirectional.
>
>>>>>> The Moto was a major improvement over the expensive Samsung, Amaysim
>>>>>> worked with Samsung but bad reception, the Moto perfect reception.
>>>>>> This Reception ability, was confirmed as amazing by my Kiwi mate in
>>>>>> the kiwi bush.
>>>
>>>>> No reason to believe that this new one would be any better.
>>>
>>>> Well I did look and from what I then read was Motorola Mobiles
>>>> make/made the best Android recive/transmion mobiles,
>>>
>>> And yet it doesnt work well at your place.
>
>> Moto works anywhere.
>
>You just said that it doesnt.
>
Well it doesn't fail calls or receive ever. It's perfect!
>
>> Voice and sound is clear even when signal is poor
>> which it often is, never above fair at my place
>
>So why are you buying a new phone ?
>
I'm not just getting ready to when it's price drops
>
>>>> Iphone was rated a bit beter than them. proved true to me,
>>>
>>> But still isnt very satisfactory and you have no idea
>>> which band was used in that very poor test in Which.
>
>> I use 4G all the time. Average strength is poor but Moto is still
>> sending and receiving clear. Other mobiles static unuseable unckuding
>> iPhone.
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
Seems to be due to the Towers, the water board/police/emergency may
have a transmitter there also (interfering with others?)
>
>>>>>> A windows phone (on Amaysim) was good but stropped being made.
>>>>>> Not compatible for the Q-code Covid entry APP into stores, hotels,
>>>>>> etc. So "Johnz" pointed me to a Moto, turned out good advice.
>>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>>> https://t.ly/iFeBC
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sold in Australia yet this is a older model sold in Australia
>>>>>> which also does all 3 bands.
>>>>>
>>>>> There aren't just 3 bands. Each of the Gs has more than one band.
>>>
>>>> This link shows the bands it covers
>>>> <https://www.mobileciti.com.au/motorola-edge-40-5g-eclipse-black?gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJPrnhPx3XLziXKHgr0-vsktrBGBO-af3-iPlK78WPMOFlBkq6PdrHxoC-NcQAvD_BwE&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=00_Smart+Shopping+campaign&utm_term=&utm_source=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_acc=4638778441&hsa_mt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&hsa_cam=1578143160&hsa_kw=&gad_source=1>
>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>> can't copy and past?
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:43:25 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:10:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:47:37 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:42:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:45:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:27:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:14:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:54:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:29:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking at this one now Rod
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Storage-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0BZ447PVD?ref_=ast_sto_dp>
>>>>>>>>> https://t.ly/kgelt
>>>>>>>> What's wrong with the current one ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing yet (it's perfect), but like to wait till the latest model
>>>>>>> price collapses, when/after their new model appears.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need to check that it does our bands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Says it will do 5G, 4G, 3G in Australia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is more than one band used for those in Oz.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This link shows the bands it will work with in Au
>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>>
>>>> Which says that 1 of the 5G bands is missing.
>>
>>> I only use 4G but if I were on 5G and in unlikely event needed to use
>>> that band Moto would switch to 4G or even 3 G
>>
>> But you may find that that 5G band gives you a much
>> better result given that 5G needs a lot more bases.
>>
>>>>> can't copy and past?
>>>>
>>>>>>> My problem is with mobile reception, the Moto is clear in receiving
>>>>>>> and talking. the Moto signal strength APP, ranges from poor to fair
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Telstra is worse. Neighbours company Iphone (on telstra) very poor
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> often has to go outside to listen to calls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of hills and trees?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing to do with that.
>>>>
>>>>> Well reception goes up on other side of hill when on bus.
>>>>
>>>> Because you are closer to the tower you are using.
>>
>>> Not really the one I are switched to is the closest, just ancient
>>> version,
>>
>> You have no idea how ancient the actual base
>> is. They all had to be upgraded for 4G and that
>> happened quite recently, only a few years now.
>>
>>> When the bus goes away from mytower it switched to the modern one.
>>
>> They will both have the same electronics
>> because of the 4G upgrade.
>>
>>>>> But goes past recent towers
>>>>
>>>> But you don't know whose towers they are.
>>
>>> Yep there are 3 Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, I use Optusthe only one
>>> that
>>> sometimes gives a fair to poor signal.
>>
>> But that may not be true with 5G

> was 3G when I bought my Samsung, yes whenit went to 4G my Samsung auto
> became 4G

So the tower you normally use was upgraded with
whole new electronics and likely with new antennas
too given that 4G has different bands to 3G.

>>>>> The home Mobile transmitter is on top ofwater tower, but been there
>>>>> for decades.
>>>>
>>>> So is unlikely to be the problem with hills and trees.
>>
>>> I think it is ancient technology on all 3 transmitters
>>
>> You are wrong. They all had to be upgraded for 4G

> Tried Vodaphone that never worked. Telstra worked rarely, Amaysim
> worked but a bit more than scratchy.

> When I bought the Moto my mobile became perfect.

If its perfect, why are you buying a new phone ?

>>>> And mobile towers aren't all omnidirectional.
>>
>>>>>>> The Moto was a major improvement over the expensive Samsung,
>>>>>>> Amaysim
>>>>>>> worked with Samsung but bad reception, the Moto perfect reception.
>>>>>>> This Reception ability, was confirmed as amazing by my Kiwi mate in
>>>>>>> the kiwi bush.
>>>>
>>>>>> No reason to believe that this new one would be any better.
>>>>
>>>>> Well I did look and from what I then read was Motorola Mobiles
>>>>> make/made the best Android recive/transmion mobiles,
>>>>
>>>> And yet it doesnt work well at your place.
>>
>>> Moto works anywhere.
>>
>> You just said that it doesnt.

> Well it doesn't fail calls or receive ever. It's perfect!

If its perfect, why are you buying a new phone ?

>>> Voice and sound is clear even when signal is poor
>>> which it often is, never above fair at my place
>>
>> So why are you buying a new phone ?
>>
> I'm not just getting ready to when it's price drops

But if your current Moto is perfect, what is
the point in waiting to when it's price drops ?

>>>>> Iphone was rated a bit beter than them. proved true to me,
>>>>
>>>> But still isnt very satisfactory and you have no idea
>>>> which band was used in that very poor test in Which.
>>
>>> I use 4G all the time. Average strength is poor but Moto is still
>>> sending and receiving clear. Other mobiles static unuseable unckuding
>>> iPhone.
>>
>> BULLSHIT.
>>
> Seems to be due to the Towers, the water board/police/emergency may
> have a transmitter there also (interfering with others?)
>>
>>>>>>> A windows phone (on Amaysim) was good but stropped being made.
>>>>>>> Not compatible for the Q-code Covid entry APP into stores, hotels,
>>>>>>> etc. So "Johnz" pointed me to a Moto, turned out good advice.
>>>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>>>> https://t.ly/iFeBC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sold in Australia yet this is a older model sold in Australia
>>>>>>> which also does all 3 bands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There aren't just 3 bands. Each of the Gs has more than one band.
>>>>
>>>>> This link shows the bands it covers
>>>>> <https://www.mobileciti.com.au/motorola-edge-40-5g-eclipse-black?gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJPrnhPx3XLziXKHgr0-vsktrBGBO-af3-iPlK78WPMOFlBkq6PdrHxoC-NcQAvD_BwE&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=00_Smart+Shopping+campaign&utm_term=&utm_source=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_acc=4638778441&hsa_mt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&hsa_cam=1578143160&hsa_kw=&gad_source=1>
>>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>>> can't copy and past?

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 14:51:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:43:25 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:10:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:47:37 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:42:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:45:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:27:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:14:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:54:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:29:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking at this one now Rod
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Storage-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0BZ447PVD?ref_=ast_sto_dp>
>>>>>>>>>> https://t.ly/kgelt
>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with the current one ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing yet (it's perfect), but like to wait till the latest model
>>>>>>>> price collapses, when/after their new model appears.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You need to check that it does our bands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Says it will do 5G, 4G, 3G in Australia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is more than one band used for those in Oz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This link shows the bands it will work with in Au
>>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>>>
>>>>> Which says that 1 of the 5G bands is missing.
>>>
>>>> I only use 4G but if I were on 5G and in unlikely event needed to use
>>>> that band Moto would switch to 4G or even 3 G
>>>
>>> But you may find that that 5G band gives you a much
>>> better result given that 5G needs a lot more bases.
>>>
>>>>>> can't copy and past?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My problem is with mobile reception, the Moto is clear in receiving
>>>>>>>> and talking. the Moto signal strength APP, ranges from poor to fair
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Telstra is worse. Neighbours company Iphone (on telstra) very poor
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> often has to go outside to listen to calls.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lot of hills and trees?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well reception goes up on other side of hill when on bus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you are closer to the tower you are using.
>>>
>>>> Not really the one I are switched to is the closest, just ancient
>>>> version,
>>>
>>> You have no idea how ancient the actual base
>>> is. They all had to be upgraded for 4G and that
>>> happened quite recently, only a few years now.
>>>
>>>> When the bus goes away from mytower it switched to the modern one.
>>>
>>> They will both have the same electronics
>>> because of the 4G upgrade.
>>>
>>>>>> But goes past recent towers
>>>>>
>>>>> But you don't know whose towers they are.
>>>
>>>> Yep there are 3 Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, I use Optusthe only one
>>>> that
>>>> sometimes gives a fair to poor signal.
>>>
>>> But that may not be true with 5G
>
>> was 3G when I bought my Samsung, yes whenit went to 4G my Samsung auto
>> became 4G
>
>So the tower you normally use was upgraded with
>whole new electronics and likely with new antennas
>too given that 4G has different bands to 3G.
>
I don't know if it was upgraded, what happened was Amasim went to 4G
when 3G was discontinued this is what they are now
From
https://www.rfnsa.com.au/home
Optus
3G
4G
4G+
5G
Telstra
3G
4GX
5G
Vodafone
3G
4G
5G
>
>>>>>> The home Mobile transmitter is on top ofwater tower, but been there
>>>>>> for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> So is unlikely to be the problem with hills and trees.
>>>
>>>> I think it is ancient technology on all 3 transmitters
>>>
>>> You are wrong. They all had to be upgraded for 4G
>
>> Tried Vodaphone that never worked. Telstra worked rarely, Amaysim
>> worked but a bit more than scratchy.
>
>> When I bought the Moto my mobile became perfect.
>
>If its perfect, why are you buying a new phone ?
>
I'm not this Moto works perfect
>
>>>>> And mobile towers aren't all omnidirectional.
>>>
>>>>>>>> The Moto was a major improvement over the expensive Samsung,
>>>>>>>> Amaysim
>>>>>>>> worked with Samsung but bad reception, the Moto perfect reception.
>>>>>>>> This Reception ability, was confirmed as amazing by my Kiwi mate in
>>>>>>>> the kiwi bush.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> No reason to believe that this new one would be any better.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I did look and from what I then read was Motorola Mobiles
>>>>>> make/made the best Android recive/transmion mobiles,
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet it doesnt work well at your place.
>>>
>>>> Moto works anywhere.
>>>
>>> You just said that it doesnt.
>
>> Well it doesn't fail calls or receive ever. It's perfect!
>
>If its perfect, why are you buying a new phone ?
>
I'm not this Moto works perfect
>
>>>> Voice and sound is clear even when signal is poor
>>>> which it often is, never above fair at my place
>>>
>>> So why are you buying a new phone ?
>>>
>> I'm not just getting ready to when it's price drops
>
>But if your current Moto is perfect, what is
>the point in waiting to when it's price drops ?
>
Doubt if anything works forever, so try to keep up with technology
>
>>>>>> Iphone was rated a bit beter than them. proved true to me,
>>>>>
>>>>> But still isnt very satisfactory and you have no idea
>>>>> which band was used in that very poor test in Which.
>>>
>>>> I use 4G all the time. Average strength is poor but Moto is still
>>>> sending and receiving clear. Other mobiles static unuseable unckuding
>>>> iPhone.
>>>
>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>
>> Seems to be due to the Towers, the water board/police/emergency may
>> have a transmitter there also (interfering with others?)
>>>
>>>>>>>> A windows phone (on Amaysim) was good but stropped being made.
>>>>>>>> Not compatible for the Q-code Covid entry APP into stores, hotels,
>>>>>>>> etc. So "Johnz" pointed me to a Moto, turned out good advice.
>>>>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>>>>> https://t.ly/iFeBC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sold in Australia yet this is a older model sold in Australia
>>>>>>>> which also does all 3 bands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There aren't just 3 bands. Each of the Gs has more than one band.
>>>>>
>>>>>> This link shows the bands it covers
>>>>>> <https://www.mobileciti.com.au/motorola-edge-40-5g-eclipse-black?gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJPrnhPx3XLziXKHgr0-vsktrBGBO-af3-iPlK78WPMOFlBkq6PdrHxoC-NcQAvD_BwE&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=00_Smart+Shopping+campaign&utm_term=&utm_source=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_acc=4638778441&hsa_mt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&hsa_cam=1578143160&hsa_kw=&gad_source=1>
>>>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>>>> can't copy and past?

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 16:12:43 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 14:51:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:43:25 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:10:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:47:37 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 08:42:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:45:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:27:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 07:14:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:54:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:29:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at this one now Rod
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Storage-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B0BZ447PVD?ref_=ast_sto_dp>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://t.ly/kgelt
>>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with the current one ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing yet (it's perfect), but like to wait till the latest
>>>>>>>>> model
>>>>>>>>> price collapses, when/after their new model appears.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You need to check that it does our bands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Says it will do 5G, 4G, 3G in Australia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is more than one band used for those in Oz.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This link shows the bands it will work with in Au
>>>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which says that 1 of the 5G bands is missing.
>>>>
>>>>> I only use 4G but if I were on 5G and in unlikely event needed to use
>>>>> that band Moto would switch to 4G or even 3 G
>>>>
>>>> But you may find that that 5G band gives you a much
>>>> better result given that 5G needs a lot more bases.
>>>>
>>>>>>> can't copy and past?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My problem is with mobile reception, the Moto is clear in
>>>>>>>>> receiving
>>>>>>>>> and talking. the Moto signal strength APP, ranges from poor to
>>>>>>>>> fair
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Telstra is worse. Neighbours company Iphone (on telstra) very
>>>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> often has to go outside to listen to calls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A lot of hills and trees?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing to do with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well reception goes up on other side of hill when on bus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you are closer to the tower you are using.
>>>>
>>>>> Not really the one I are switched to is the closest, just ancient
>>>>> version,
>>>>
>>>> You have no idea how ancient the actual base
>>>> is. They all had to be upgraded for 4G and that
>>>> happened quite recently, only a few years now.
>>>>
>>>>> When the bus goes away from mytower it switched to the modern one.
>>>>
>>>> They will both have the same electronics
>>>> because of the 4G upgrade.
>>>>
>>>>>>> But goes past recent towers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you don't know whose towers they are.
>>>>
>>>>> Yep there are 3 Vodaphone, Telstra, Optus, I use Optusthe only one
>>>>> that
>>>>> sometimes gives a fair to poor signal.
>>>>
>>>> But that may not be true with 5G
>>
>>> was 3G when I bought my Samsung, yes whenit went to 4G my Samsung auto
>>> became 4G
>>
>> So the tower you normally use was upgraded with
>> whole new electronics and likely with new antennas
>> too given that 4G has different bands to 3G.

> I don't know if it was upgraded,

Nothing else is possible with 4G

> what happened was Amasim went to 4G when3G was discontinued this is
> what they are now

> From
> https://www.rfnsa.com.au/home
> Optus
> 3G
> 4G
> 4G+
> 5G
> Telstra
> 3G
> 4GX
> 5G
> Vodafone
> 3G
> 4G
> 5G

>>>>>>> The home Mobile transmitter is on top ofwater tower, but been
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> for decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So is unlikely to be the problem with hills and trees.
>>>>
>>>>> I think it is ancient technology on all 3 transmitters
>>>>
>>>> You are wrong. They all had to be upgraded for 4G
>>
>>> Tried Vodaphone that never worked. Telstra worked rarely, Amaysim
>>> worked but a bit more than scratchy.
>>
>>> When I bought the Moto my mobile became perfect.
>>
>> If its perfect, why are you buying a new phone ?

> I'm not this Moto works perfect

So why are you even looking at that other one ?

>>>>>> And mobile towers aren't all omnidirectional.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Moto was a major improvement over the expensive Samsung,
>>>>>>>>> Amaysim
>>>>>>>>> worked with Samsung but bad reception, the Moto perfect
>>>>>>>>> reception.
>>>>>>>>> This Reception ability, was confirmed as amazing by my Kiwi mate
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the kiwi bush.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No reason to believe that this new one would be any better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well I did look and from what I then read was Motorola Mobiles
>>>>>>> make/made the best Android recive/transmion mobiles,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet it doesnt work well at your place.
>>>>
>>>>> Moto works anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> You just said that it doesnt.
>>
>>> Well it doesn't fail calls or receive ever. It's perfect!
>>
>> If its perfect, why are you buying a new phone ?

> I'm not this Moto works perfect

So why are you even looking at that other one ?

>>>>> Voice and sound is clear even when signal is poor
>>>>> which it often is, never above fair at my place
>>>>
>>>> So why are you buying a new phone ?
>>>>
>>> I'm not just getting ready to when it's price drops
>>
>> But if your current Moto is perfect, what is
>> the point in waiting to when it's price drops ?

> Doubt if anything works forever, so try to keep up with technology

>>>>>>> Iphone was rated a bit beter than them. proved true to me,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But still isnt very satisfactory and you have no idea
>>>>>> which band was used in that very poor test in Which.
>>>>
>>>>> I use 4G all the time. Average strength is poor but Moto is still
>>>>> sending and receiving clear. Other mobiles static unuseable unckuding
>>>>> iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>>
>>> Seems to be due to the Towers, the water board/police/emergency may
>>> have a transmitter there also (interfering with others?)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A windows phone (on Amaysim) was good but stropped being made.
>>>>>>>>> Not compatible for the Q-code Covid entry APP into stores,
>>>>>>>>> hotels,
>>>>>>>>> etc. So "Johnz" pointed me to a Moto, turned out good advice.
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/motorola-edge-40-pro>
>>>>>>>>> https://t.ly/iFeBC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sold in Australia yet this is a older model sold in Australia
>>>>>>>>> which also does all 3 bands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There aren't just 3 bands. Each of the Gs has more than one band.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This link shows the bands it covers
>>>>>>> <https://www.mobileciti.com.au/motorola-edge-40-5g-eclipse-black?gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJPrnhPx3XLziXKHgr0-vsktrBGBO-af3-iPlK78WPMOFlBkq6PdrHxoC-NcQAvD_BwE&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=00_Smart+Shopping+campaign&utm_term=&utm_source=adwords&hsa_src=x&hsa_acc=4638778441&hsa_mt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&hsa_cam=1578143160&hsa_kw=&gad_source=1>
>>>>>>> https://t.ly/MGHqP
>>>>>>> can't copy and past?

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 19:38:06 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>On 14/2/2024 3:37 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:24:37 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> This one is well designed flame proof, Certified USB devices are in
>>>> general very safe to use.
>>>> Amazon this tome but no post price.
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com.au/Charging-Station-100-240V-Adaptive-Intelligent/dp/B0CHQW149S?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A17KPCJ25NSBQE&th=1>
>>>> https://t.ly/A4CXM
>>>> About this item
>>>> [Multi Ports Design] The 20 port USB 5V 20A smart fastsupports
>>>> charging 20 mobile phones or digital products at the same time, which
>>>> is safe and efficient.
>>>> [Smart Chip] Each USB port is equipped with a new smart identification
>>>> chip, real time current control, to achieve fast charging and
>>>> effectively reduce battery consumption.
>>>> [Flame Retardant And Durable] The product uses high quality PC and ABS
>>>> fire retardant and flame retardant material, which are resistant to
>>>> high temperature. Sponge footpad at the bottom for more stability.
>>>> [100-240V Wide Voltage] Using 100-240V wide voltage design, highly
>>>> adaptable to different levels of voltage, with a 50 degree intelligent
>>>> cooling fan, can charge equipment from all over the world.
>>>> [Widely Compatible] This multi port USBis convenient for the whole
>>>> family to charge their smart phones and tablets at airports, hotels,
>>>> at home, and more.
>>>
>>> Where's the Aussie certification??
>>>
>> Can't be sold in Australia without one
>
>Yeah, right!
>
>> A number of electronic companies sell them.
>
>Have you seen the news of late, the Chinese are even faking the fakes
>and selling them overseas.
>
TEMU are run from the USA most of what they sell has been vetted as
OK.
My Moto unlike iPhone (Titanium) has a non-conductive plastic shell,
further insulated and waterproofed by/with a PVC clear Gel Case
--
Petzl
The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody
had decided not to see.