Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5 live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.

Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?

On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5 live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
>
> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
Opt Out' in the morning.

The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
(particularly via satellite)

On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
>> live.  You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and
>> clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar.  Nevertheless the
>> program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
>>
>> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
> It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
> simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
> Opt Out' in the morning.
>
> The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
> (particularly via satellite)

Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!

On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 12:37:10 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
> On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
> > On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> >> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
> >> live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and
> >> clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the
> >> program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
> >>
> >> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
> > It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
> > simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
> > Opt Out' in the morning.
> >
> > The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
> > (particularly via satellite)
> Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!

They are not other News channels. CNN disappeared as well - I sadly remember CNN coverage of the attack on the world trade centre...

On 15/05/2023 04:53 pm, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

> On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 12:37:10 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
>> On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
>>> On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

>>>> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
>>>> live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and
>>>> clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the
>>>> program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
>
>>>> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?

>>> It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
>>> simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
>>> Opt Out' in the morning.
>
>>> The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
>>> (particularly via satellite)
>> Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!
>
> They are not other News channels.

That is strictly true. They are news and current affairs channels. But
then, so is the BBC News channel. It certainly broadcasts a lot of
material that could not conceivably be categorised as news.

> CNN disappeared as well - I sadly remember CNN coverage of the attack on the world trade centre...

We still have access to MSNBC, I see.

On 15/05/2023 16:53, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 12:37:10 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
>> On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
>>> On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>>>> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
>>>> live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and
>>>> clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the
>>>> program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
>>>>
>>>> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
>>> It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
>>> simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
>>> Opt Out' in the morning.
>>>
>>> The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
>>> (particularly via satellite)
>> Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!
>
> They are not other News channels. CNN disappeared as well - I sadly remember CNN coverage of the attack on the world trade centre...

You can watch CNN Live online (along with MSNBC, Fox News and OAN) in
full HD:

https://usnewson.com/watch/cnn-live

On 15/05/2023 17:27, JNugent wrote:
> That is strictly true. They are news and current affairs channels. But
> then, so is the BBC News channel. It certainly broadcasts a lot of
> material that could not conceivably be categorised as news.

I suppose they have to decide whether they are going to be pure news and
just repeat the same news bulletins on a loop or cover a wider range
with some items in more depth.

It always seems to me that they are there for people keep updated from
time to time but their most important function is to be able to expand
for a major news event which will take over completely for a time.

On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 17:57:09 UTC+1, SH wrote:
> On 15/05/2023 16:53, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> > On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 12:37:10 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
> >> On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
> >>> On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> >>>> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
> >>>> live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and
> >>>> clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the
> >>>> program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
> >>> It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
> >>> simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
> >>> Opt Out' in the morning.
> >>>
> >>> The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
> >>> (particularly via satellite)
> >> Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!
> >
> > They are not other News channels. CNN disappeared as well - I sadly remember CNN coverage of the attack on the world trade centre...
> You can watch CNN Live online (along with MSNBC, Fox News and OAN) in
> full HD:
>
>
>
> https://usnewson.com/watch/cnn-live

It didn't want to do this on my TV, nor BT box (wanted a subscription) - working on this PC.

On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 19:14:24 UTC+1, MB wrote:
> On 15/05/2023 17:27, JNugent wrote:
> > That is strictly true. They are news and current affairs channels. But
> > then, so is the BBC News channel. It certainly broadcasts a lot of
> > material that could not conceivably be categorised as news.
> I suppose they have to decide whether they are going to be pure news and
> just repeat the same news bulletins on a loop or cover a wider range
> with some items in more depth.
>
> It always seems to me that they are there for people keep updated from
> time to time but their most important function is to be able to expand
> for a major news event which will take over completely for a time.

Simulcasted BBC2 Newsnight yesterday evening too.

Every time I put BBC News on it seems to be a Chinese woman giving us news about foreign places. It's just like BBC World used to be in the early days of satellite.
Bill

On Mon, 15 May 2023 12:37:07 +0100, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>>> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
>>> live.  You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and
>>> clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar.  Nevertheless the
>>> program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
>>>
>>> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
>> It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
>> simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
>> Opt Out' in the morning.
>>
>> The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
>> (particularly via satellite)
>
>Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!

I still like Sky News.

On 15/05/2023 12:37, Woody wrote:
> Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!

Have they published audited figures?

Streaming services seem to be often very reluctant to publish actual
figures.

On 15/05/2023 19:12, MB wrote:

> It always seems to me that they are there for people keep updated from
> time to time but their most important function is to be able to expand
> for a major news event which will take over completely for a time.

But do they expand the information? Say, there is a aeroplane crash
and all they do is wheel out a dozen so called aviation experts to
speculate on what may have happened to make it crash with zero facts to
back up their views. Or, send reporter to the scene to relay a prepared
statement from a member of the emergency services which could have
equally been relayed to the public from someone in the studio. A lot of
news seems to be no better than listening to the panel of pundits
talking bullshit for hours about a football match that you may have watched.

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On 17/05/2023 07:01, alan_m wrote:
> But do they expand the information? Say, there is a aeroplane crash
> and all they do is wheel out a dozen so called aviation experts to
> speculate on what may have happened to make it crash with zero facts to
> back up their views. Or, send reporter to the scene to relay a prepared
> statement from a member of the emergency services which could have
> equally been relayed to the public from someone in the studio. A lot of
> news seems to be no better than listening to the panel of pundits
> talking bullshit for hours about a football match that you may have watched.

What else can they do when the area is quickly sealed off and the only
statement from the authorities is quite likely that there has been 'an
incident'.

Another news programme might get a bit more, perhaps by ignoring
restrictions, so the one obeying the restrictions will be criticised by
the ignorant!

The aviation experts might talk more sense than a member of the public.

On 17/05/2023 09:11, MB wrote:
> On 17/05/2023 07:01, alan_m wrote:
>> But do they expand the information?  Say, there is a  aeroplane crash
>> and all they do is wheel out a dozen so called aviation experts to
>> speculate on what may have happened to make it crash with zero facts to
>> back up their views. Or, send reporter to the scene to relay a prepared
>> statement from a member of the emergency services which could have
>> equally been relayed to the public from someone in the studio. A lot of
>> news seems to be no better than listening to the panel of pundits
>> talking bullshit for hours about a football match that you may have
>> watched.
>
>
>
> What else can they do when the area is quickly sealed off and the only
> statement from the authorities is quite likely that there has been 'an
> incident'.
>
> Another news programme might get a bit more, perhaps by ignoring
> restrictions, so the one obeying the restrictions will be criticised
> by the ignorant!
>
> The aviation experts might talk more sense than a member of the public.
>
>
Nevertheless it's still about 30 seconds worth of useful information
packed into a hour.

You're better off  waiting for the next 'normal' bulletin on BBC 1, ITV
1 etc, where a proper team has assembled a proper report, and nothing
has been padded out.
Rolling news is a waste of time really

There is a strike soon at the bbc about the people in local radio being
asked to share more content. Surely this is stupid, as the whole point of
local radio is local stories?
A few years ago they interviewed a professional Mermaid who worked at
various aquatic events. I found it very interesting that anyone who did this
as paid work even existed.
Brian

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"R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5 live.
You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and clips of people
phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the program is mostly wibble
with precious little news content.

Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?

I cannot stand Talk TV, it reminds me of the Fox network. We will have some
story soon that says some famous politician is a space alien soon.
Brian

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"Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>>> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
>>> live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and clips
>>> of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the program is
>>> mostly wibble with precious little news content.
>>>
>>> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
>> It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
>> simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK Opt
>> Out' in the morning.
>>
>> The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist (particularly
>> via satellite)
>
> Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at
> least!

As the old joke goes 32-34- 2s/10d a pound.

On 17/05/2023 in message <u428l2$3rgt5$1@dont-email.me> Brian Gaff wrote:

>There is a strike soon at the bbc about the people in local radio being
>asked to share more content. Surely this is stupid, as the whole point of
>local radio is local stories?
>A few years ago they interviewed a professional Mermaid who worked at
>various aquatic events. I found it very interesting that anyone who did
>this as paid work even existed.
>Brian

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On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 21:12:27 UTC+1, Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2023 12:37:07 +0100, Woody <harro...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> >On Mon 15/05/2023 11:44, Mark Carver wrote:
> >> On 15/05/2023 11:29, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> >>> Recently the BBC News Channel started synchronise output with Radio 5
> >>> live. You do get a picture of the presenter in a radio studio and
> >>> clips of people phoning in via Zoom or similar. Nevertheless the
> >>> program is mostly wibble with precious little news content.
> >>>
> >>> Is this the start of BBC News being slimmed down for closure?
> >> It's been effectively merged with BBC World (News). The Nicky Campbell
> >> simulcast is a quick and dirty cheap as chips method to give it a 'UK
> >> Opt Out' in the morning.
> >>
> >> The channel is a pile of cack now. Other News channel exist
> >> (particularly via satellite)
> >
> >Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!
> I still like Sky News.

I quite like it, but lots of ads and trailers and if you want HD you have to pay a sub' as well.

On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 22:42:44 UTC+1, MB wrote:
> On 15/05/2023 12:37, Woody wrote:
> > Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!
> Have they published audited figures?
>
> Streaming services seem to be often very reluctant to publish actual
> figures.

Or true figures, bearing in mind the channel we are talking about.

On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 07:01:55 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
> On 15/05/2023 19:12, MB wrote:
>
> > It always seems to me that they are there for people keep updated from
> > time to time but their most important function is to be able to expand
> > for a major news event which will take over completely for a time.
> But do they expand the information? Say, there is a aeroplane crash
> and all they do is wheel out a dozen so called aviation experts to
> speculate on what may have happened to make it crash with zero facts to
> back up their views. Or, send reporter to the scene to relay a prepared
> statement from a member of the emergency services which could have
> equally been relayed to the public from someone in the studio. A lot of
> news seems to be no better than listening to the panel of pundits
> talking bullshit for hours about a football match that you may have watched.
>
>
> --
> mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Like on Pan Am 103 - they had an image of the cockpit area, but no-one looked at it closely to see if there was pitting (there was [as caused by the bomb]).
Similarly, when the Costa Concordia sank, no journalist went looking for the damaged reef that the ship had obviously hit.

Seems to me that an awful lot of investigative journalists aren't worth their salaries.

In the US there is even an agency where you can hire a Mermaid for your
event: https://aquamermaid.com/

On 17/05/2023 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
> There is a strike soon at the bbc about the people in local radio being
> asked to share more content. Surely this is stupid, as the whole point of
> local radio is local stories?
> A few years ago they interviewed a professional Mermaid who worked at
> various aquatic events. I found it very interesting that anyone who did this
> as paid work even existed.
> Brian
>

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On 17/05/2023 11:03 am, Brian Gaff wrote:

> I cannot stand Talk TV, it reminds me of the Fox network. We will have some
> story soon that says some famous politician is a space alien soon.

By when?

Are you offering odds?

In article <007ad265-36ca-4c84-a726-0da3464b2b58n@googlegroups.com>,
R. Mark Clayton <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 22:42:44 UTC+1, MB wrote:
> > On 15/05/2023 12:37, Woody wrote:
> > > Probably why GBN and TalkTV are doing so well - well apparently so at least!
> > Have they published audited figures?
> >
> > Streaming services seem to be often very reluctant to publish actual
> > figures.

> Or true figures, bearing in mind the channel we are talking about.

Of course, stations that allow more than one opinion not just the
official narrative are by definition dodgy and would lie about their
audience figures.

Bob.

On 17/05/2023 16:10, Bob Latham wrote:
>
> Of course, stations that allow more than one opinion not just the
> official narrative are by definition dodgy and would lie about their
> audience figures.

TRANSLATION: Being a serial liar myself, I watch stations that lie,
including about their audience figures.

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