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* Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Brian Gaff
`* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Mark Carver
 `* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Davey
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  ||`- Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?NY
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  ||`* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?charles
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  | `* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?R. Mark Clayton
  |  `* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?SH
  |   +- Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Mark Carver
  |   `* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?NY
  |    `* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?SH
  |     +- Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Andy Burns
  |     +- Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Max Demian
  |     `- Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?R. Mark Clayton
  +* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Mark Carver
  |`* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?MB
  | `* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?James Heaton
  |  `* Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?MB
  |   `- Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Brian Gaff
  `- Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?Brian Gaff

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Re: Are SD only digital boxes going to be useless soon?

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 by: NY - Fri, 18 Aug 2023 22:02 UTC

On 18/08/2023 14:00, SH wrote:
> SCART sockets on a DVB-T2/S2 box is a bit of an oxymoron as SCART will
> not carry analogue HD signals.

Although our old Sky box would play HD recordings quite happily through
its SCART socket: it did the 1080i to 576i downscaling.

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 by: SH - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:13 UTC

On 18/08/2023 23:02, NY wrote:
> On 18/08/2023 14:00, SH wrote:
>> SCART sockets on a DVB-T2/S2 box is a bit of an oxymoron as SCART will
>> not carry analogue HD signals.
>
> Although our old Sky box would play HD recordings quite happily through
> its SCART socket: it did the 1080i to 576i downscaling.

which is my point exactly....

whats the point of putting in a HD tuner if its downscaled before
exiting out of SCART?

it should be a DVB-S/T tuner with SCART and DVB-S2/T2 with HDMI.

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 by: Andy Burns - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:34 UTC

SH wrote:

> whats the point of putting in a HD tuner if its downscaled before
> exiting out of SCART?

Because SD channels exist within S2/T2 muxes (it's not the tuner that's HD)

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 by: Max Demian - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 10:05 UTC

On 19/08/2023 09:13, SH wrote:
> On 18/08/2023 23:02, NY wrote:
>> On 18/08/2023 14:00, SH wrote:
>>> SCART sockets on a DVB-T2/S2 box is a bit of an oxymoron as SCART
>>> will not carry analogue HD signals.
>>
>> Although our old Sky box would play HD recordings quite happily
>> through its SCART socket: it did the 1080i to 576i downscaling.

> which is my point exactly....
>
> whats the point of putting in a HD tuner if its downscaled before
> exiting out of SCART?

Because, whatever the source, SD is better than nothing if you only have
an SD TV with a SCART input.

My Humax HDR Fox T2 has a SCART as well as HDMI outputs. Admittedly it
is an old box.

--
Max Demian

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 by: R. Mark Clayton - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:20 UTC

On Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 09:13:18 UTC+1, SH wrote:
> On 18/08/2023 23:02, NY wrote:
> > On 18/08/2023 14:00, SH wrote:
> >> SCART sockets on a DVB-T2/S2 box is a bit of an oxymoron as SCART will
> >> not carry analogue HD signals.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freeview-Satellite-Receiver-Compatible-FreeSat/dp/B095CDN6TD/ref=pd_day0fbt_sccl_1/261-5399399-6876617

> >
> > Although our old Sky box would play HD recordings quite happily through
> > its SCART socket: it did the 1080i to 576i downscaling.
> which is my point exactly....
>
> whats the point of putting in a HD tuner if its downscaled before
> exiting out of SCART?
>
>
>
> it should be a DVB-S/T tuner with SCART and DVB-S2/T2 with HDMI.

The OP is Brian, and my replay was addressed specifically to him.

Brian is only interested in the sound (read his sign off!), which does come out on Scart, so he would not need to upgrade his old TV.

As it happens this box also has sound out on coax, so Brian could listen on a suitable amp with coax input.

There are loads of radio only [and SD] channels on satellite too and many of them are [or soon will be] on DVB-T2 and S2 channels.

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