Mark Carver wrote:
> On 28/11/2023 09:01, Graham J wrote:
>
>> It's not the capability of 98km which is relevant - it is the cost of
>> installing the fibre itself.  It may be about 10km from my friend's
>> property to the nearest existing optical fibre, and he has been quoted
>> £1,030,689.70 for for a fibre connection.
>>
>> He does get a weak 4G connection - but only if he hangs out of an
>> upstairs window.
>>
>
> He may have to wake up and smell the coffee very soon then.
>
> I suspect by the end of this decade he'll discover Royal Mail won't be
> delivering to his house. The idea of universal utility provision to all
> died with the 20th Century.
>
> Does he have mains water BTW ?

Yes, and mains electricity. No mains sewer, but the septic tank works OK.

This is simply a rural area in the home counties - it's about 100 miles
from London. So it's not remote in the same way as for example Shetland
(where there is evidently really good 4G coverage).

--
Graham J

On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 09:40:03 UTC, Graham J wrote:
> Mark Carver wrote:
> > On 28/11/2023 09:01, Graham J wrote:
> >
> >> It's not the capability of 98km which is relevant - it is the cost of
> >> installing the fibre itself. It may be about 10km from my friend's
> >> property to the nearest existing optical fibre, and he has been quoted
> >> £1,030,689.70 for for a fibre connection.
> >>
> >> He does get a weak 4G connection - but only if he hangs out of an
> >> upstairs window.
> >>
> >
> > He may have to wake up and smell the coffee very soon then.
> >
> > I suspect by the end of this decade he'll discover Royal Mail won't be
> > delivering to his house. The idea of universal utility provision to all
> > died with the 20th Century.
> >
> > Does he have mains water BTW ?
> Yes, and mains electricity. No mains sewer, but the septic tank works OK.
>
> This is simply a rural area in the home counties - it's about 100 miles
> from London. So it's not remote in the same way as for example Shetland
> (where there is evidently really good 4G coverage).
>
>
> --
> Graham J

There is really good mobile coverage in Inverie - the most remote village in GB. Sail or hike there - no road.

On Fri 01/12/2023 09:39, Graham J wrote:
> Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 28/11/2023 09:01, Graham J wrote:
>>
>>> It's not the capability of 98km which is relevant - it is the cost of
>>> installing the fibre itself.  It may be about 10km from my friend's
>>> property to the nearest existing optical fibre, and he has been
>>> quoted £1,030,689.70 for for a fibre connection.
>>>
>>> He does get a weak 4G connection - but only if he hangs out of an
>>> upstairs window.
>>>
>>
>> He may have to wake up and smell the coffee very soon then.
>>
>> I suspect by the end of this decade he'll discover Royal Mail won't be
>> delivering to his house. The idea of universal utility provision to
>> all died with the 20th Century.
>>
>> Does he have mains water BTW ?
>
> Yes, and mains electricity.  No mains sewer, but the septic tank works OK.
>
> This is simply a rural area in the home counties - it's about 100 miles
> from London.  So it's not remote in the same way as for example Shetland
> (where there is evidently really good 4G coverage).
>
>

Home Counties 100 miles from London???
Eh?
Birmingham is 100 miles from London and sure ain't in the Home Counties!