Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 27/12/2023 18:47, Certes wrote:
>>> The driver was not harmed but the cab certainly was.
>>>
>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/27/uk-weather-christmas-travellers-warned-of-storm-gerrit-hazards>
>> Ouch! That's quite a mess.
>
> Presumably the driver retreated from the cab before the impact? I'm sure
> Anna can tell us more…
>

The driver was on the floor behind the driver's seat, I believe, after
putting the brake to emergency upon sighting the tree.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 08:55:22 +0000, Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 27/12/2023 18:47, Certes wrote:
>>> The driver was not harmed but the cab certainly was.
>>>
>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/27/uk-weather-christmas-travellers-warned-of-storm-gerrit-hazards>
>>
>> Another nail in the HSTs coffin. They'll be withdrawn sooner now. The
>> Scottish Drivers came to an agreement last year to continue using them,
>> following the deaths after hitting the landslide near Stonehaven , now
>> showing this damage, they will want them withdrawn quicker.
>
> Would a different train type have fared any better?
>

Yes. HST cab is fibreglass and wood, above the metal floor and ahead of the
metal bulkhead. The windscreen is stronger than the stuff it's mounted to!

Recent stock, while the cosmetic damage to the decorative fibreglass ends
may look bad, with have a steel cage around the cab.

Intermediate generations of stock will again have predominantly steel cabs,
with a specified end-loading strength specified in the design.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:11:14 +0000, ColinR
<rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:

>On 28/12/2023 12:23, Scott wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:35:11 +0000, Certes <Certes@example.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/12/2023 10:06, John Armstrong wrote:
>>>> On 27/12/2023 18:47, Certes wrote:
>>>>> The driver was not harmed but the cab certainly was.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/27/uk-weather-christmas-travellers-warned-of-storm-gerrit-hazards>
>>>>
>>>> "South of Dundee" is the Firth of Tay, which contains very few trees.
>>>> Further checking produced this report. .
>>>>
>>>> https://news.stv.tv/north/front-of-train-destroyed-following-shocking-crash-with-fallen-tree
>>>>
>>>> Further further checking on the website of the local paper indicates the
>>>> crash occurred "between Barry Links and Dundee". Barry is about 10 miles
>>>> east of Dundee.
>>>
>>> Thank you. The exact location wasn't revealed in initial reports, which
>>> claimed it was a Dundee-Glasgow service. Other reports say the accident
>>> occurred at Broughty Ferry (consistent with your statement above),
>>> whilst still claiming it was a Dundee-Glasgow train.
>>>
>>> Tentsmuir Forest lies south of Dundee and has some lovely trees, but no
>>> railway.
>>
>> But it does have a naturist beach I believe :-)
>
>Bit parky for that today .....
>
It doesn't stop the non-nudists so it probably won't stop them either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67856747

On 03/01/2024 00:45, Charles Ellson wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:11:14 +0000, ColinR
> <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2023 12:23, Scott wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:35:11 +0000, Certes <Certes@example.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/12/2023 10:06, John Armstrong wrote:
>>>>> On 27/12/2023 18:47, Certes wrote:
>>>>>> The driver was not harmed but the cab certainly was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/27/uk-weather-christmas-travellers-warned-of-storm-gerrit-hazards>
>>>>>
>>>>> "South of Dundee" is the Firth of Tay, which contains very few trees.
>>>>> Further checking produced this report. .
>>>>>
>>>>> https://news.stv.tv/north/front-of-train-destroyed-following-shocking-crash-with-fallen-tree
>>>>>
>>>>> Further further checking on the website of the local paper indicates the
>>>>> crash occurred "between Barry Links and Dundee". Barry is about 10 miles
>>>>> east of Dundee.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you. The exact location wasn't revealed in initial reports, which
>>>> claimed it was a Dundee-Glasgow service. Other reports say the accident
>>>> occurred at Broughty Ferry (consistent with your statement above),
>>>> whilst still claiming it was a Dundee-Glasgow train.
>>>>
>>>> Tentsmuir Forest lies south of Dundee and has some lovely trees, but no
>>>> railway.
>>>
>>> But it does have a naturist beach I believe :-)
>>
>> Bit parky for that today .....
>>
> It doesn't stop the non-nudists so it probably won't stop them either.
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67856747

Ahh, but those swimming trunks / shorts are insulated .....

OK, I will get my coat and leave.

--
Colin

On 03/01/2024 15:26, ColinR wrote:
> On 03/01/2024 00:45, Charles Ellson wrote:

>>> Bit parky for that today .....
>>>
>> It doesn't stop the non-nudists so it probably won't stop them either.
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67856747
>
> Ahh, but those swimming trunks / shorts are insulated .....

The New Years/Boxing day 'Dook' is getting to be a big thing in
Scotland. Mnay towns/villages have it now, our local one is for the
Doddie Weir charity, over 100 took part. Edinburghs Portobello is the
most popular and famous, but there are lots more that have been held for
longer.

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On 06/01/2024 18:53, Alan Lee wrote:
> On 03/01/2024 15:26, ColinR wrote:
>> On 03/01/2024 00:45, Charles Ellson wrote:
>
>>>> Bit parky for that today .....
>>>>
>>> It doesn't stop the non-nudists so it probably won't stop them either.
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67856747
>>
>> Ahh, but those swimming trunks / shorts are insulated .....
>
> The New Years/Boxing day 'Dook' is getting to be a big thing in
> Scotland. Mnay towns/villages have it now, our local one is for the
> Doddie Weir charity, over 100 took part. Edinburghs Portobello is the
> most popular and famous, but there are lots more that have been held for
> longer.
>

A local group swam off a different local beach in Shetland every day in
December for charity - I watched them one day when they did it off my
local pier - the ground was solid white from frost. Rather them than me!

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Colin