On 25/08/2023 13:01, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 25/08/2023 12:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> But I thounught that these stations tended to be used by builders on
>> crappy
>> portables, hardly likely to take your dab to the building site.
>>
> You're about 15 years out of date. Every radio I've seen on a building
> site for years now, is a DAB radio, and banging out (at 100% THD)
> favourite tunes/sport/phone ins

The site radios I keep seeing for sale are DAB, FM, AM, and play off a
USB stick as well. They also use the same rechargeable batteries as the
rest of the toolkit.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:34:53 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

>On 25/08/2023 10:40, Scott wrote:
>> FOI only applies to public sector organisations.
>
>Pity it cannot be extended to tabloids and news stations who use FOIA
>request to make stories and cost the public sector organisation a lot of
>money as they answer the requests.
>
>Would be nice to see them also have to answer FOIA requests!
>
I believe in Norway everybody's tax return is put on line to view.
This would certainly be an interesting application of FOI.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:38:33 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

>On 25/08/2023 12:08, Scott wrote:
>> I wonder if there is any profit-sharing provision if the land is sold.
>
>I have a suspicion that the BBC do not get anything, either the
>government grab it or more likely deduct from income raised from the TV
>Licence etc.
>
Can we exclude the possibility of Arqiva grabbing it and ultimately
the Aussies and States of Jersey?

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:48:04 +0100, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On 25/08/2023 13:01, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 25/08/2023 12:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>> But I thounught that these stations tended to be used by builders on
>>> crappy
>>> portables, hardly likely to take your dab to the building site.
>>>
>> You're about 15 years out of date. Every radio I've seen on a building
>> site for years now, is a DAB radio, and banging out (at 100% THD)
>> favourite tunes/sport/phone ins
>
>The site radios I keep seeing for sale are DAB, FM, AM, and play off a
>USB stick as well. They also use the same rechargeable batteries as the
>rest of the toolkit.

Not off a mobile phone via Bluetooth then? Surprising.

In article <uca7ca$1aob$2@dont-email.me>,
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 25/08/2023 12:08, Scott wrote:
> > I wonder if there is any profit-sharing provision if the land is sold.

> I have a suspicion that the BBC do not get anything, either the
> government grab it or more likely deduct from income raised from the TV
> Licence etc.

The ex-BBC sites have been through more than one change of ownership since
the BBC sold them.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 25/08/2023 13:58, Scott wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:48:04 +0100, John Williamson

>> The site radios I keep seeing for sale are DAB, FM, AM, and play off a
>> USB stick as well. They also use the same rechargeable batteries as the
>> rest of the toolkit.
>
> Not off a mobile phone via Bluetooth then? Surprising.
>
Quite likely, I wasn't looking all that closely. The last guy that did
some work for me just had a cheap Bluetooth speaker and a phone, no
tuner. I think he was streaming off Spotify.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Fri, 25 Aug 23 13:08:02 UTC, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
wrote:

>In article <uca7ca$1aob$2@dont-email.me>,
> MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>> On 25/08/2023 12:08, Scott wrote:
>> > I wonder if there is any profit-sharing provision if the land is sold.
>
>
>
>> I have a suspicion that the BBC do not get anything, either the
>> government grab it or more likely deduct from income raised from the TV
>> Licence etc.
>
>The ex-BBC sites have been through more than one change of ownership since
>the BBC sold them.

Do we know that the land is same ownership as the transmitters
(currently Arqiva) or could this be one of these situation where the
land is owned by one company and leased by another? There should be a
decent profit for someone if the land was purchased with a transmitter
on it and no access then sold for housing.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 14:42:14 +0100, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On 25/08/2023 13:58, Scott wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:48:04 +0100, John Williamson
>
>>> The site radios I keep seeing for sale are DAB, FM, AM, and play off a
>>> USB stick as well. They also use the same rechargeable batteries as the
>>> rest of the toolkit.
>>
>> Not off a mobile phone via Bluetooth then? Surprising.
>>
>Quite likely, I wasn't looking all that closely. The last guy that did
>some work for me just had a cheap Bluetooth speaker and a phone, no
>tuner. I think he was streaming off Spotify.

I have an expensive Bluetooth speaker and a phone :-)

On 25/08/2023 14:45, Scott wrote:
> Do we know that the land is same ownership as the transmitters
> (currently Arqiva) or could this be one of these situation where the
> land is owned by one company and leased by another? There should be a
> decent profit for someone if the land was purchased with a transmitter
> on it and no access then sold for housing.

Some landowners sold the sites to the BBC for a peppercorn rent because
they thought they were doing it for the benefit of the local community.
Some were not happy when they then saw rich (often foreign) telecom
companies renting space on the tower and site for lots of money with
nothing coming to themselves.

I think some tried to obstructive when they got chance.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:44:38 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

>On 25/08/2023 14:45, Scott wrote:
>> Do we know that the land is same ownership as the transmitters
>> (currently Arqiva) or could this be one of these situation where the
>> land is owned by one company and leased by another? There should be a
>> decent profit for someone if the land was purchased with a transmitter
>> on it and no access then sold for housing.
>
>Some landowners sold the sites to the BBC for a peppercorn rent because
>they thought they were doing it for the benefit of the local community.
>Some were not happy when they then saw rich (often foreign) telecom
>companies renting space on the tower and site for lots of money with
>nothing coming to themselves.

Do you mean sold or rented?
>
>I think some tried to obstructive when they got chance.
>
In what way?

A friend of a friend of my father's had a telegraph pole in his
garden. Whenever there was a Labour government, he charged rental but
when there was a Conservative governement, he waived the rental :-)

In message <kkr08lFmd7cU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 25 Aug 2023
07:32:53, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
>On 24/08/2023 21:48, Tweed wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <uc8e0m$3k73s$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:19:34,
>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> writes
>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:46:25 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
[]
>>>>>>> What will they do instead in areas without mobile phone coverage?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably they would supply a meter with an integrated clock and backup
>>>>>> battery.
>>> But that couldn't be load-adaptive; it'd just be the equivalent of the
>>> old "white meter".
>> There’s still lots of E7 installations with mechanical timers. I don’t
>> think they care about load adaption anymore. My E7 is simply measured by my
>> smart meter. It runs from a set invariable time.
>Indeed. The load adaption was really because of storage heaters. No
>one  has storage heaters any more (apart from my mother with her 30 kW
>total load's worth) so it's a diminishing problem.

By "load adaptation" I meant - I probably used the wrong phrase - the
idea that they could switch on or off load at times other than the ones
preset on a "white meter"; I thought that was the main purpose of the
radio control thing at all (other than having to have a clockwork backup
on the white meter to survive power cuts).
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you carry on hating, you're the one who's damaged.
- Sir Harold Atcherley, sent to the Burma/Siam railway in April 1943

On Friday, 25 August 2023 at 13:01:33 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 25/08/2023 12:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
> > But I thounught that these stations tended to be used by builders on crappy
> > portables, hardly likely to take your dab to the building site.
> >
> You're about 15 years out of date. Every radio I've seen on a building
> site for years now, is a DAB radio, and banging out (at 100% THD)
> favourite tunes/sport/phone ins

Yes, that's true. They also sometimes shove a USB stick into the slot and play music of their choice.
Bill

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:02:48 +0100, Scott
<newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]

On a related theme, do many here remember this stuff?

You can turn on a friend
You can turn on the show
You can turn on the world
With Capital Radio

Capital Radio
In tune with London town
Capital Radio makes things go round and round and round
Open up that window
Open up that door
On Capital 194

Grab a little piece of heaven
With Roger Scott from three to seven
On Capital 194

Such a good way to make your day
Capital

On 194 metres on the medium waveband

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 16:22:08 +0100, Scott
<newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:44:38 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>On 25/08/2023 14:45, Scott wrote:
>>> Do we know that the land is same ownership as the transmitters
>>> (currently Arqiva) or could this be one of these situation where the
>>> land is owned by one company and leased by another? There should be a
>>> decent profit for someone if the land was purchased with a transmitter
>>> on it and no access then sold for housing.
>>
>>Some landowners sold the sites to the BBC for a peppercorn rent because
>>they thought they were doing it for the benefit of the local community.
>>Some were not happy when they then saw rich (often foreign) telecom
>>companies renting space on the tower and site for lots of money with
>>nothing coming to themselves.
>
>Do you mean sold or rented?
>>
>>I think some tried to obstructive when they got chance.
>>
>In what way?
>
>A friend of a friend of my father's had a telegraph pole in his
>garden. Whenever there was a Labour government, he charged rental but
>when there was a Conservative governement, he waived the rental :-)

Where did he send the invoice?

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 11:35:38 +0100, steve1001908@outlook.com wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 16:22:08 +0100, Scott
><newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:44:38 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 25/08/2023 14:45, Scott wrote:
>>>> Do we know that the land is same ownership as the transmitters
>>>> (currently Arqiva) or could this be one of these situation where the
>>>> land is owned by one company and leased by another? There should be a
>>>> decent profit for someone if the land was purchased with a transmitter
>>>> on it and no access then sold for housing.
>>>
>>>Some landowners sold the sites to the BBC for a peppercorn rent because
>>>they thought they were doing it for the benefit of the local community.
>>>Some were not happy when they then saw rich (often foreign) telecom
>>>companies renting space on the tower and site for lots of money with
>>>nothing coming to themselves.
>>
>>Do you mean sold or rented?
>>>
>>>I think some tried to obstructive when they got chance.
>>>
>>In what way?
>>
>>A friend of a friend of my father's had a telegraph pole in his
>>garden. Whenever there was a Labour government, he charged rental but
>>when there was a Conservative governement, he waived the rental :-)
>
>Where did he send the invoice?

The Head Postmaster at the local GPO, as this was before the
separation of BT.

JW> Quite likely, I wasn't looking all that closely. The last guy that did
JW> some work for me just had a cheap Bluetooth speaker and a phone, no
JW> tuner. I think he was streaming off Spotify.

So did it stream the ads too?

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