Alan wrote on Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:56:05 -0800 :

>> No. You're wrong. A new iPhone does /NOT/ work out of the box.
>> Not if you don't jailbreak it anyway.
>
> Simply incorrect.

How are you going to add apps that you want to use without logging in?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7138048?sortBy=best
"Kind of defeats the point of having an iPhone"

And how are you going to get the walled-garden Apple Music, FaceTime,
iCloud & Messages to work with those very reassuring green bubbles?
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/105087

The Apple users care more about blue bubbles than almost anything else.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-teens-dread-the-green-text-bubble-11641618009

The walled garden is exposed for what it is if you don't log into it.
https://mobiletrans.wondershare.com/iphone-tips/can-i-use-iphone-without-apple-id.html

On 2024-01-20 15:32, Andrew wrote:
> Alan wrote on Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:56:05 -0800 :
>
>>> No. You're wrong. A new iPhone does /NOT/ work out of the box.
>>> Not if you don't jailbreak it anyway.
>>
>> Simply incorrect.
>
> How are you going to add apps that you want to use without logging in?
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7138048?sortBy=best
> "Kind of defeats the point of having an iPhone"
>
> And how are you going to get the walled-garden Apple Music, FaceTime,
> iCloud & Messages to work with those very reassuring green bubbles?
> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/105087

Sorry but "does /NOT/ work out of the box" means doesn't to ANYTHING.

Out of the box, the iPhone has a lot of apps already installed and can:

Make phone calls;

Send and receive text messages;

Send and receive email;

Browse the web;

Take pictures...

You can get a long list of apps that it already has here:

<https://support.apple.com/kb/SP738?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US>

>
> The Apple users care more about blue bubbles than almost anything else.
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-teens-dread-the-green-text-bubble-11641618009

Your perception of what Apple users "care more about" is in no way
relevant or important.

>
> The walled garden is exposed for what it is if you don't log into it.
> https://mobiletrans.wondershare.com/iphone-tips/can-i-use-iphone-without-apple-id.html

Did you read that last article, Arlen?

'If yes, you would be happy to know that you can use your iPhone without
Apple ID. Here in this article, you will learn how to use iPhone without
Apple ID. So continue reading!'

On 2024-01-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-01-20 15:32, Andrew wrote:
>>
>> The Apple users care more about blue bubbles than almost anything
>> else.
>
> Your perception of what Apple users "care more about" is in no way
> relevant or important.

He's full of shit as usual. A quick glance at the gnashing of teeth in
the Beeper subreddit is all you need to see that it is *Android users*
who are completely obsessed with blue bubbles, not iPhone users.

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On 18.01.24 17:46, sms wrote:
> On 1/18/2024 1:59 AM, Wilf wrote:
>> On 18/01/2024 at 08:59, Andrew wrote:
>>> An iPhone doesn't work until you establish a series of Apple accounts.
>>> It can't even be "initialized" without creating those Apple accounts.
>>
>> I don't know about that.  I have an old iPhone which has a payg sim in
>> it.  It is not connected to any Apple accounts.  It works.
>
> You're correct of course. I suspect that "Andrew" has never used an iPhone.

Same like you.

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On 21.01.24 00:32, Andrew wrote:
> Alan wrote on Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:56:05 -0800 :
>
>>> No. You're wrong. A new iPhone does /NOT/ work out of the box.
>>> Not if you don't jailbreak it anyway.
>>
>> Simply incorrect.
>
> How are you going to add apps that you want to use without logging in?
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7138048?sortBy=best
> "Kind of defeats the point of having an iPhone"
>
> And how are you going to get the walled-garden Apple Music, FaceTime,
> iCloud & Messages to work with those very reassuring green bubbles?
> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/105087
>
> The Apple users care more about blue bubbles than almost anything else.
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-teens-dread-the-green-text-bubble-11641618009
>
> The walled garden is exposed for what it is if you don't log into it.
> https://mobiletrans.wondershare.com/iphone-tips/can-i-use-iphone-without-apple-id.html

Before you spread FUD and nonsense buy an iPhone and learn the basics.
You need them to be taken serious in this group, Dear.

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On 17.01.24 20:49, Andrew wrote:
> sms wrote on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:13:07 -0800 :
>> I think that the big concern of Apple is the trend in OS adoption. iOS
>> reached a high of 22% in Q4 2022 and now has fallen to 16%.
>
> Agree.
>
> World wide iOS adoption has been steadily decreasing due to lack of the
> ability of iOS devices to work without the Internet always being available.

Lord let rain some brain!
You spread bullshit of the same quality in the Android-group.

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