On 2024-03-30 07:40:19 +0000, Ken Blake said:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:57:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
>>
>> They're picking on Apple simply because Apple has a huge bank balance
>> and they all greedily want to try to grab a piece of it for themselves.
>
> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>
> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>
> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.

If you lok hard enough, you'll find every "big business" company on the
planet "commits fraud" to some degree ... it's often called "marketing"
where they tell "white lies". More usually it's simply a mistake due to
having so many employees that nobody really knows what is goping on
everywhere.

The most obvious example is in sales days where the business usually
says "up to 50% off storewide", but when you go into thre store most
things are only 10% reduced with one or two items that they have had
trouble selling are reduced by "50%" ... from the original
manufacturer's suggested retail price, rather than the actual price the
store was selling it for the previous day.

On 2024-03-30 08:22:22 +0000, Hank Rogers said:
> Ken Blake <Ken@OneOfMany.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:57:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
>>
>>> They're picking on Apple simply because Apple has a huge bank balance
>>> and they all greedily want to try to grab a piece of it for themselves.
>>
>> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>>
>> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
>> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>>
>> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.
>
> Poor trump has the same problem.

Except Trump *is* a complete moron who is solely responsible for all
his lies and activities. :-p

On 2024-03-30 15:14:45 +0000, Ken Blake said:

> On 30 Mar 2024 08:22:22 GMT, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>>>> They're picking on
>>>> Apple simply because Apple has a huge bank balance and they all
>>>> greedily want to try to grab a piece of it for themselves.
>>>
>>> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>>>
>>> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
>>> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>>>
>>> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.
>>
>> Poor trump has the same problem.
>
> Yes. Exactly. Every Trump crazy says poor old Trump is being picked on by
> the people who enforce our laws and then when he loses, he blames them.
>
> Just like all those Apple crazies do when Apple loses its fraud cases.
>
> To them, since Apple paid a half billion dollars for the privilege of not
> admitting guilt, to those crazies, that means Apple was wholly innocent.

"Innocent until proven guilty" ... since Apple (or any other company)
wasn't actually found guilty in the court, then they have to be
presumed to be innocent. As others have said, an out-of-court
settlement is more usually simply the cheapest way to stop the morons
who are suing them - it's not worth wasting billions of dollars in an
on-going court case with numerous appeals when you can pay a couple of
million and that's it.

The reality is that anyone with more than one braincell knows the sole
reason for most of these idiotic court cases is just some greedy moron
trying to grab some money for themselves from a big company. How many
"winners" donate all the money to charities?? Pretty much none of them
at all. It's no different to some homeless person throwing themselves
in front of a rich guy's Rolls Royce and then claiming they were run
over.

Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-03-30 08:22:22 +0000, Hank Rogers said:
>> Ken Blake <Ken@OneOfMany.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:57:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>>> They're picking on Apple simply because Apple has a huge bank balance
>>>> and they all greedily want to try to grab a piece of it for themselves.
>>>
>>> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>>>
>>> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
>>> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>>>
>>> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.
>>
>> Poor trump has the same problem.
>
> Except Trump *is* a complete moron who is solely responsible for all his
> lies and activities.  :-p
>

Maybe he could team up with apple and both would benefit. Maybe a new
ORANGE iphone!

Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-03-30 15:14:45 +0000, Ken Blake said:
>
>> On 30 Mar 2024 08:22:22 GMT, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>>>>> They're picking on
>>>>> Apple simply because Apple has a huge bank balance and they all
>>>>> greedily want to try to grab a piece of it for themselves.
>>>>
>>>> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>>>>
>>>> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
>>>> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>>>>
>>>> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a
>>>> result.
>>>
>>> Poor trump has the same problem.
>>
>> Yes. Exactly. Every Trump crazy says poor old Trump is being picked on by
>> the people who enforce our laws and then when he loses, he blames them.
>>
>> Just like all those Apple crazies do when Apple loses its fraud cases.
>>
>> To them, since Apple paid a half billion dollars for the privilege of not
>> admitting guilt, to those crazies, that means Apple was wholly innocent.
>
> "Innocent until proven guilty" ... since Apple (or any other company)
> wasn't actually found guilty in the court, then they have to be presumed to
> be innocent. As others have said, an out-of-court settlement is more
> usually simply the cheapest way to stop the morons who are suing them -
> it's not worth wasting billions of dollars in an on-going court case with
> numerous appeals when you can pay a couple of million and that's it.
>
> The reality is that anyone with more than one braincell knows the sole
> reason for most of these idiotic court cases is just some greedy moron
> trying to grab some money for themselves from a big company. How many
> "winners" donate all the money to charities?? Pretty much none of them at
> all. It's no different to some homeless person throwing themselves in front
> of a rich guy's Rolls Royce and then claiming they were run over.
>

You're right. Poor Apple.

On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:46:42 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:

>> "Innocent until proven guilty" ... since Apple (or any other company)
>> wasn't actually found guilty in the court, then they have to be presumed to
>> be innocent. As others have said, an out-of-court settlement is more
>> usually simply the cheapest way to stop the morons who are suing them -
>> it's not worth wasting billions of dollars in an on-going court case with
>> numerous appeals when you can pay a couple of million and that's it.
>>
>> The reality is that anyone with more than one braincell knows the sole
>> reason for most of these idiotic court cases is just some greedy moron
>> trying to grab some money for themselves from a big company. How many
>> "winners" donate all the money to charities?? Pretty much none of them at
>> all. It's no different to some homeless person throwing themselves in front
>> of a rich guy's Rolls Royce and then claiming they were run over.
>>
>
> You're right. Poor Apple.

Poor Apple. Poor Trump.

According to Your Name, people should believe Apple & Trump.
Not the corrupt courts.

On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:44:41 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:

>>>> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>>>>
>>>> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
>>>> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>>>>
>>>> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.
>>>
>>> Poor trump has the same problem.
>>
>> Except Trump *is* a complete moron who is solely responsible for all his
>> lies and activities.  :-p
>>
>
> Maybe he could team up with apple and both would benefit. Maybe a new
> ORANGE iphone!

Your Name is voting for Trump for the same reasons as he claims everyone is
out to get Apple (and Trump) for court-proven Fraud that they didn't commit
but which they are always judged by corrupt courts as having committed.

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:44:42 +1300, Your Name wrote:

>> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>>
>> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
>> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>>
>> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.
>
> If you lok hard enough, you'll find every "big business" company on the
> planet "commits fraud" to some degree ... it's often called "marketing"
> where they tell "white lies". More usually it's simply a mistake due to
> having so many employees that nobody really knows what is goping on
> everywhere.
>
> The most obvious example is in sales days where the business usually
> says "up to 50% off storewide", but when you go into thre store most
> things are only 10% reduced with one or two items that they have had
> trouble selling are reduced by "50%" ... from the original
> manufacturer's suggested retail price, rather than the actual price the
> store was selling it for the previous day.

You believe Trump (and Apple) when they say it's normal to commit Fraud.

Then, you complain (like Trump does) that the courts are out to get him.

It's scary how your brain works as people like you are who voted for Trump.

On 2024-03-31 00:20:17 +0000, Ken Blake said:

> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:44:42 +1300, Your Name wrote:
>
>>> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.
>>>
>>> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
>>> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?
>>>
>>> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.
>>
>> If you lok hard enough, you'll find every "big business" company on the
>> planet "commits fraud" to some degree ... it's often called "marketing"
>> where they tell "white lies". More usually it's simply a mistake due to
>> having so many employees that nobody really knows what is goping on
>> everywhere.
>>
>> The most obvious example is in sales days where the business usually
>> says "up to 50% off storewide", but when you go into thre store most
>> things are only 10% reduced with one or two items that they have had
>> trouble selling are reduced by "50%" ... from the original
>> manufacturer's suggested retail price, rather than the actual price the
>> store was selling it for the previous day.
>
> You believe Trump (and Apple) when they say it's normal to commit Fraud.
>
> Then, you complain (like Trump does) that the courts are out to get him.
>
> It's scary how your brain works as people like you are who voted for Trump.

Another braindead lunatic troll for the killfile. :-\

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>>
>>
>> Except Trump *is* a complete moron who is solely responsible for all his
>> lies and activities.  :-p
>>
>
> Maybe he could team up with apple and both would benefit. Maybe a new
> ORANGE iphone!
>
>
>

That’s brilliant! Why aren’t you working at Apple marketing?

On 2024-03-29 17:54, Indira wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>>>> No, you don't understand it. Just because the government refuses to
>>>>> enforce the law as written does not mean it can't, and it certainly
>>>>> doesn't change the law's meaning. I'm not saying Cook is guilty of
>>>>> conspiracy, but if the government found evidence of such by Apple
>>>>> under his direction, he could face criminal penalties as an
>>>>> individual.
>>>>
>>>> I understood it all too well.
>>>
>>> No you didn't, Gamma boy.
>>
>> I did.  I pointed out where you were over projecting.  And then you
>> attempt to own that.  Pathetic.  Weak.  F-off.
>
> Anyone else notice that every time these immature childish Apple religious
> nut jobs loses an argument, they IMMEDIATELY turn to 3rd grade insults?
>
> Every one of the Apple religious nut jobs does it, whether that's Alan
> Browne, Alan Baker, Jolly Roger, Your Name, Hemactylus, Peter Piper.
>
> They're immature children who know NOTHING about Apple products because
> they bought Apple on the religious merit alone of being in the crowd.

Irony meter... ...broken.

On 2024-03-30 04:42, badgolferman wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-30, Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> This is a perfect example why no one can take you seriously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plenty take me seriously - and you're projecting: nobody takes
>>>>>> *you* seriously, because all you do here is troll and defend
>>>>>> trolls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody but you thinks paying a half billion dollars is "winning" a
>>>>> case.
>>>>
>>>> Both sides settled and in the eyes of the law Apple admitted no
>>>> wrongdoing. You *hate* this fact.
>>>
>>> Nobody but you irrational religious nut jobs believes having to pay
>>> for about 5 brand new Francis Scott Key bridges is "winning" that
>>> fraud case.
>>
>> Neither side won, neither side lost. That's what a settlement means in
>> the eyes of the law. In the eyes of the law, Apple admitted no
>> wrongdoing, and you *hate* that fact. Only you irrational Apple haters
>> believe otherwise. Your outright jealously forces you to view
>> everything related to Apple through shit-colored glasses.
>>
>
> When you hand over millions of dollars you’ve already lost, especially in
> the eyes of public opinion.
>

Exactly the opposite.

On 2024-03-29 15:54, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>> On 2024-03-29 16:10:55 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-29, Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> blah blah blah half a billion dollars blah blah blah
>>>>
>>>> Apple rakes in almost 1 million dollars a minute.
>>>
>>> And that's the problem some people have... Apple make too much
>>> money. It's a kind of jealousy.
>>
>> Which is the *sole* real reason for all these idiotic lawsuits.  :-\
>>
>
> There may be a few that don't like the fact that apple makes and sells
> disposable items.
>
>

Not LIKING something is not a sound basis for legal recourse.

On 2024-03-30 00:40, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:57:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
>
>> They're picking on
>> Apple simply because Apple has a huge bank balance and they all
>> greedily want to try to grab a piece of it for themselves.
>
> The reason for Apple losing all these lawsuits is Apple is unethical.

Apple isn't losing them.

>
> Do you seriously think the recent settling with Apple for half a billion
> dollars worth of outright fraud, is the DOJ "picking on poor old Apple"?

No judgement of fraud.

>
> Poor Apple commits fraud and has to pay a half billion dollars as a result.

Pity you can't prove that.