nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> You don't even realize Apple alone decides what goes into their App Store.
>
> you don't even realize that google alone decides what goes into their
> play store, and they have *blocked* newpipe.

Idiot. Google didn't block anything. You're a nutjob. An ignorant one.

How many idiot excuses are you going to have to make up for lack of iOS
functionality which is due to one cause and one cause only? Walled garden.

First, you Apple nutjobs blame Tor for Apple's own WebKit not having any
privacy nor security, and now you Apple nutjobs prove you're not even aware
that you can load software from anywhere on all systems (except on iOS).

It's obvious that none of you Apple nutjobs have ever even heard of Webkit.

WebKit is an iOS walled-garden component which makes privacy & security
impossible - not only because WebKit doesn't allow any privacy but also
because WebKit is the source of more than half of all iOS zero-day holes.

On 25.06.23 20:16, Peter wrote:

> First, you Apple nutjobs blame Tor for Apple's own WebKit not having any
> privacy nor security, and now you Apple nutjobs prove you're not even aware
> that you can load software from anywhere on all systems (except on iOS).
>
> It's obvious that none of you Apple nutjobs have ever even heard of Webkit.

If they're blaming Tor because Apple's webkit has no privacy or security,
then nobody can reason with them because they don't know about anything.

They're oddball religious cultists in every negative sense of the word.

On 2023-06-25 12:16, Peter wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> You don't even realize Apple alone decides what goes into their App Store.
>>
>> you don't even realize that google alone decides what goes into their
>> play store, and they have *blocked* newpipe.
>
> Idiot. Google didn't block anything. You're a nutjob. An ignorant one.

Why must you mangle what someone said, Arlen?

>
> How many idiot excuses are you going to have to make up for lack of iOS
> functionality which is due to one cause and one cause only? Walled garden.
>
> First, you Apple nutjobs blame Tor for Apple's own WebKit not having any
> privacy nor security, and now you Apple nutjobs prove you're not even aware
> that you can load software from anywhere on all systems (except on iOS).

Unproven claims, Arlen.

>
> It's obvious that none of you Apple nutjobs have ever even heard of Webkit.
>
> WebKit is an iOS walled-garden component which makes privacy & security
> impossible - not only because WebKit doesn't allow any privacy but also
> because WebKit is the source of more than half of all iOS zero-day holes.

More unproven claims.

In article <u7a3pe$ioi7$1@dont-email.me>, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

> >> You don't even realize Apple alone decides what goes into their App Store.
> >
> > you don't even realize that google alone decides what goes into their
> > play store, and they have *blocked* newpipe.
>
> Idiot. Google didn't block anything. You're a nutjob. An ignorant one.

then explain why newpipe is *not* on the play store.

who blocked it, if not google?

maybe apple hacked into google's servers and removed it. yea, that must
be it.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Idiot. Google didn't block anything. You're a nutjob. An ignorant one.
>
> then explain why newpipe is *not* on the play store.
>
> who blocked it, if not google?
>
> maybe apple hacked into google's servers and removed it. yea, that must
> be it.

You really don't know that you can install apps from outside Google Play.

Not only are you an Apple nutjob - but that you don't know that you can
install apps from outside the Google Play Store means you're an idiot.

In article <u7a5s6$j17d$1@dont-email.me>, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

> >> Idiot. Google didn't block anything. You're a nutjob. An ignorant one.
> >
> > then explain why newpipe is *not* on the play store.
> >
> > who blocked it, if not google?
> >
> > maybe apple hacked into google's servers and removed it. yea, that must
> > be it.
>
> You really don't know that you can install apps from outside Google Play.

nobody said otherwise, liar.

but at least you finally admit that google does not allow newpipe on
the play store, thereby forcing people to go outside it.

ios users can do the same thing.

as i said, newpipe is open source. once you figure out how to compile
sample code, you could start porting it to ios and then you'll have an
ios version.

On 6/25/2023 9:59 AM, Peter wrote:

<snip>

> There was a long thread on the topic, with many tests, on the Android
> newsgroup and the workaround is to run your screenshots in a program that
> doesn't respect the security that Google implemented to prevent snapshots.

So just carry a Windows laptop along just in case you need to take a
screenshot on your Android device in an app where the app creator
doesn't want you to! Very convenient.

The Costco issue is interesting because Costco is in the midst of a big
crackdown on non-members using their friends' or relatives' cards at
self-checkout (following a viral Tik Tok video of how to cheat). Now,
when you approach self-checkout an employee stops you and requires that
you present your membership card and they match your picture to your
face. Then they wait for another employee over by the self-checkouts to
shout the self-checkout station to go to.

This has really annoyed legitimate members in multiple ways, usually
because the picture on the card could be 25 years old or more and not
look a lot like the member anymore. Also, during Covid, Costco was not
taking photos for cards for new members because they didn't want people
to take off their masks. I feel bad for the employees being forced to do
this because it often turns nasty, even when the member is using their
own card. Hopefully once they weed out the criminals they can stop this
level of enforcement.

A determined person can still cheat the system by creating an image of a
digital membership card with their photo and their name but with their
friends' or relatives' QR code. Costco really needs to give the
card-checking employee a tablet that pops up the picture of the member
that corresponds to the digital card's QR code or the physical card's
bar code. Or they could put in a FaceID system at the self-checkout
registers. I'm all for ensuring that only members can shop at the store
because I pay a significant yearly fee for that ability, and have for
the past 39 years but they really should find a less obnoxious way to do
this.

It's surprising that iOS doesn't give the app developer the option of
preventing screen shots. There are legitimate reasons to implement this
feature. But I'm not complaining! I often take screenshots of cards so I
can store them in the Apple Wallet or create a one-click shortcut to
bring up an image of the card on the phone rather than opening an app
and authenticating and then bringing up an image of the card. The cards
I do this with are not ones where someone could use them to steal anything.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On 6/25/2023 12:52 PM, Peter wrote:

<snip>

> You really don't know that you can install apps from outside Google Play.
>
> Not only are you an Apple nutjob - but that you don't know that you can
> install apps from outside the Google Play Store means you're an idiot.

In China, the Google Play store is not even available. That's about 745
million Android users, based on current market share numbers, that get
their applications from other app stores.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

In article <u7amrr$l45o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> It's surprising that iOS doesn't give the app developer the option of
> preventing screen shots.

it's surprising how little you know about ios. developers can block
screenshots as well as non-developers blocking it systemwide.

> There are legitimate reasons to implement this
> feature.

not many, and they're edge cases.

> But I'm not complaining! I often take screenshots of cards so I
> can store them in the Apple Wallet or create a one-click shortcut to
> bring up an image of the card on the phone rather than opening an app
> and authenticating and then bringing up an image of the card.

why do you do things in the most convoluted way?

In article <u7an6j$l45o$2@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> In China, the Google Play store is not even available. That's about 745
> million Android users, based on current market share numbers, that get
> their applications from other app stores.

745 million android users (your numbers) who are prevented from using a
significant number of apps, ones which are only available in the play
store. that's not an advantage.

fortunately, apple doesn't have that limitation.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> but at least you finally admit that google does not allow newpipe on
> the play store, thereby forcing people to go outside it.

FORCING PEOPLE? FORCING PEOPLE???????

Downloading an app installer on any operating system is a normal thing on
all operating systems (except on iOS). It's a simple click or two.

You exogenically indoctrinated Apple posters sure are strange nutters.

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> You really don't know that you can install apps from outside Google Play.
>>
>> Not only are you an Apple nutjob - but that you don't know that you can
>> install apps from outside the Google Play Store means you're an idiot.
>
> In China, the Google Play store is not even available. That's about 745
> million Android users, based on current market share numbers, that get
> their applications from other app stores.

Unlike the (ignorant) Apple nutters, you seem to understand this stuff so
that you likely know that there probably isn't an app on the Google Play
Store worth having that doesn't have many other APK mirrors to get it from.

Can't those 745 million Chinese Android owners use those many APK mirrors?

In article <u7aq5l$le8n$1@dont-email.me>, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

> > but at least you finally admit that google does not allow newpipe on
> > the play store, thereby forcing people to go outside it.
>
> FORCING PEOPLE? FORCING PEOPLE???????

where's newpipe on the play store? oh right, it's *not* *there*.

> Downloading an app installer on any operating system is a normal thing on
> all operating systems (except on iOS). It's a simple click or two.

downloading apps on ios is a simple *tap* or two (there aren't any
clicks on touch-based devices).

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 745 million android users (your numbers) who are prevented from using a
> significant number of apps, ones which are only available in the play
> store. that's not an advantage.
>
> fortunately, apple doesn't have that limitation.

You really believe that you can't get all the app APKs that are on the
Google Play Store without using the Google Play Store app to get them?

Every statement from you exogenic Apple nutcases reeks your ignorance.

In article <u7aqo3$lga0$1@dont-email.me>, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

>
> You really believe that you can't get all the app APKs that are on the
> Google Play Store without using the Google Play Store app to get them?

yep. not all apps are in alternative app stores.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> but at least you finally admit that google does not allow newpipe on
>>> the play store, thereby forcing people to go outside it.
>>
>> FORCING PEOPLE? FORCING PEOPLE???????
>
> where's newpipe on the play store? oh right, it's *not* *there*.

You're a nutcase if you think installing an app is FORCING people
(especially when _every_ system _except iOS_ does it that way!).

There are plenty of cases where the app that is on the Google Play Store is
deprecated by its own developers over the same app from their own web site.

For example, NetGuard's own README says that the Google Play Store variant
is not as capable as the variant that you can get from them or on GitHub.

That you believe downloading a more capable app outside the app store is
FORCING PEOPLE! makes it clear that you Apple posters are ignorant nutjobs.

In article <u7ar10$p5vi$1@dont-email.me>, Peter
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

> For example, NetGuard's own README says that the Google Play Store variant
> is not as capable as the variant that you can get from them or on GitHub.
>

goalpost movement detected.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> You really believe that you can't get all the app APKs that are on the
>> Google Play Store without using the Google Play Store app to get them?
>
> yep. not all apps are in alternative app stores.

Point to a single app APK on the Google Play store not in the APK mirrors.

That you Apple nutcases can't do that means you are just making up excuses
for why every operating system installs apps from anywhere people want.

Except iOS.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> For example, NetGuard's own README says that the Google Play Store variant
>> is not as capable as the variant that you can get from them or on GitHub.
>>
>
> goalpost movement detected.

What you ignorant Apple nutjobs do is complain and whine and moan and cry
that you can't install anything on iOS that every other system can do.

Then when it's shown that you nutjobs are ignorant of everything you speak
of, you then complain & moan and cry like a baby that you're proven wrong.

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 17:41:27 -0700, sms wrote:

> Now,
> when you approach self-checkout an employee stops you and requires that
> you present your membership card and they match your picture to your
> face.

I never use the self checkout but my Costco card is a credit card (as yours
most likely also is as you also seem to love to get money back on CCards).

That VISA Ccard has only my first initial & last name (I did that so that
anyone in my family can easily use it - but they never checked me or them).

Also, there is no picture and there never has been a picture on that card.

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 13:28:47 -0400, Paul wrote:
> It seems inevitable that we'll just keep on responding
> to these cross-posted troll threads.

You can't get rid of the Apple aficionados no matter how hard you try.
> That's the only thing that is obvious to me at the moment.

Removing those odd Apple aficionados from normal Windows, Linux or Android
threads prevents being tortured by their endless claims bearing no fruit.

On 6/26/2023 10:45 AM, Mickey D wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 17:41:27 -0700, sms wrote:
>
>> Now,
>> when you approach self-checkout an employee stops you and requires that
>> you present your membership card and they match your picture to your
>> face.
>
> I never use the self checkout but my Costco card is a credit card (as yours
> most likely also is as you also seem to love to get money back on CCards).
>
> That VISA Ccard has only my first initial & last name (I did that so that
> anyone in my family can easily use it - but they never checked me or them).
>
> Also, there is no picture and there never has been a picture on that card.

My Citibank Costco Visa has my picture on it. I know that during the
peak of Covid they were not taking photos for cards because they did not
want people taking of their masks.

Also, the QR code on the digital card is not constant but the bar code
on the Costco card is constant. The EAN-13 bar code on your Costco
membership card has another digit at the end of your membership number
that is not printed on your card so if you're creating an image of a
card, or adding it to a wallet with the app, be sure to generate the
complete bar code. You can upload an image of the bar code using the web
site <https://www.onlinebarcodereader.com/>. There may be a mobile app
that does the same thing but I could not find it. I used
<https://www.zoho.com/us/inventory/free-barcode-generator/> to generate
the EAN-13 bar code.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
> And even when someone PROVES that "the impossible" CAN be easily done on
> iOS, the kiddie trolls reject the evidence and have a public breakdown.

That you're already giving up proves iOS can't do what all the others do.

If that iOS clusterfuck (which doesn't even work) is the best you can do,
then that proves beyond any doubt that it's only iOS that can't do things.

Of the thousands (upon thousands!) of very useful things that people easily
do on all platforms (except on iOS) you found only 1/2 of a workaround.

For that 1/2 you had to use a CLI clusterfuck dating back to the DOS days.
(That iOS clusterfuck only works because yt-dlp people compiled a binary.)

But even with that 1/2 iOS clusterfuck workaround, there's still no GUI.