is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)

3 Signs of growth:

There are indications of renewed interest in Usenet in recent years.

This is attributed to several factors, including:

(1) Disillusionment with mainstream social media: Users seeking
more privacy and less censorship might find Usenet appealing.

(2) Niche appeal: Usenet thrives in specific areas like file
sharing and technical discussions due to its decentralized nature and
large historical archive.

(3) Improved accessibility: Modern Usenet providers offer
user-friendly interfaces and easier access compared to the past.

On 2/20/24 11:00 PM, HenHanna wrote:
>        is Usenet making a comeback? --  (3 Signs of growth)
>
>
> 3 Signs of growth:
>
>     There are indications of renewed interest in Usenet in recent years.
>
>            This is attributed to several factors, including:
>
> (1)  Disillusionment with mainstream social media:     Users seeking more privacy and less
> censorship might find Usenet appealing.
>
> (2)  Niche appeal:     Usenet thrives in specific areas like file sharing and technical discussions
> due to its decentralized nature and large historical archive.
>
> (3)  Improved accessibility:     Modern Usenet providers offer user-friendly interfaces and easier
> access compared to the past.
Or people cross posting to 5 groups at once ups the count.
Just look at Thunderbird, os-win10 and os-win11.
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Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon 6.0.4
Al

HenHanna wrote:
> is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)

[..off topic shit removed..]

Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
mumble here. Thank you.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:28:04 PM UTC-8, Frank Miller wrote:
> HenHanna wrote:
> > is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
> [..off topic shit removed..]
>
> Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
> mumble here. Thank you.

are you saying it's Off-Topic in the Thunderbird NG ?

Newsgroups: news.software.readers, alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

Follow-ups trimmed to: news.software.readers

In news.software.readers HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:28:04?PM UTC-8, Frank Miller wrote:
>> HenHanna wrote:
>> > is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
>> [..off topic shit removed..]
>>
>> Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
>> mumble here. Thank you.
>
>
> are you saying it's Off-Topic in the Thunderbird NG ?

I believe Frank is referring to how you are formatting your
posts :)

Your posts may not be taken seriously due to the format.
Please review this link to lean about formatting:

http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml

Thanks
John

--
[t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
- Paraphrasing Star Wars

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:44:33 -0000 (UTC)
John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> wrote:

> Follow-ups trimmed to: news.software.readers
>
> In news.software.readers HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:28:04?PM UTC-8, Frank Miller wrote:
> >> HenHanna wrote:
> >> > is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
> >> [..off topic shit removed..]
> >>
> >> Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
> >> mumble here. Thank you.
> >
> >
> > are you saying it's Off-Topic in the Thunderbird NG ?
>
> I believe Frank is referring to how you are formatting your
> posts :)
>
> Your posts may not be taken seriously due to the format.
> Please review this link to lean about formatting:
>
> http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml

I fear your good advice will come to nought; the Hen has a history of
failing to comply to standards. Sadly it has enough nounce to be able to
suirvive the GG switchoff. So no let off there.
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:

> is Usenet making a comeback?

Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:46:32 -0800, Sam wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is Usenet making a comeback?
>
> Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!
>
> It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.

And who defines Aliens, lunatics and Terrorists?

The last thing Usenet needs is to turn into some fully moderated forum. How
would you do that anyway? Moderation on Usenet is "Difficult by Design"

Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > is Usenet making a comeback?
>
> Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!
>
> It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.
>

Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.

Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and
you'll be fine.

* disregarding darknet, obvs.
(It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

John McCue wrote:
> Follow-ups trimmed to: news.software.readers
>
> In news.software.readers HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:28:04?PM UTC-8, Frank Miller wrote:
>>> HenHanna wrote:
>>> > is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
>>> [..off topic shit removed..]
>>>
>>> Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
>>> mumble here. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> are you saying it's Off-Topic in the Thunderbird NG ?
>
> I believe Frank is referring to how you are formatting your
> posts :)

Not the formatting but the irrelevant content. The fucked up formatting is
just a bonus. But what could you expect from a google groups user?

Sam wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is Usenet making a comeback?
>
> Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!
>
> It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.

Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*

Sn!pe wrote:
> Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > is Usenet making a comeback?
>>
>> Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!
>>
>> It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
>> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
>> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.
>>
>
> Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
> decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.
>
> Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
> bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and
> you'll be fine.
>
> * disregarding darknet, obvs.
> (It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)

Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*

On 2/21/2024 8:06 PM, Frank Miller wrote:
> Sn!pe wrote:
>> Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is Usenet making a comeback?
>>>
>>> Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!
>>>
>>> It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
>>> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
>>> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.
>>>
>>
>> Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
>> decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.
>>
>> Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
>> bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and
>> you'll be fine.
>>
>> * disregarding darknet, obvs.
>> (It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)
>
> Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
>

That is a regular poster with a long history.

Paul

Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:

> Sn!pe wrote:
> > Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > is Usenet making a comeback?
> >>
> >> Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!
> >>
> >> It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
> >> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
> >> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.
> >>
> >
> > Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
> > decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.
> >
> > Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
> > bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and
> > you'll be fine.
> >
> > * disregarding darknet, obvs.
> > (It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)
> >
>
> Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
>

Oh! I'm taken aback. Have we met before, Frank, maybe somewhere else
under a different name? Have I perhaps unwittingly offended you?

As you've *plonked* me, I don't suppose you'll see this.
Oh well, shit happens.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> > Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
> >
>
> That is a regular poster with a long history.
>
> Paul

TY, Paul.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

>Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

Usenet worked when sysadmins were gods and Usenet servers were mostly located in
deepest, darkest academia or other research facilities. It's two greatest
features were anonymity and fault resilience. Unfortunately neither have been
replicated in any of the more modern platforms.

--
Usenet: The world's first (and best) social network.

Am 22.02.24 um 16:45 schrieb Sn!pe:
> Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>>> Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> is Usenet making a comeback?
>>>>
>>>> Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!
>>>>
>>>> It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
>>>> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
>>>> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
>>> decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.
>>>
>>> Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
>>> bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and
>>> you'll be fine.
>>>
>>> * disregarding darknet, obvs.
>>> (It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)
>>>
>>
>> Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
>>
>
> Oh! I'm taken aback. Have we met before, Frank, maybe somewhere else
> under a different name? Have I perhaps unwittingly offended you?
>
> As you've *plonked* me, I don't suppose you'll see this.
> Oh well, shit happens.

As I wrote: You are perceived as a Troll.

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

Paul wrote:

> Frank Miller wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>>
>>> It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.
>>
>> Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
>
> That is a regular poster with a long history.

Yes, but watch out for that pointy beak!

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> Paul wrote:
>
> > Frank Miller wrote:
> >
> >> Sn!pe wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.
> >>
> >> Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
> >
> > That is a regular poster with a long history.
>
> Yes, but watch out for that pointy beak!

heheheh . . . [tagged OT]

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

[...]

> >> Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
> >>
> >
> > Oh! I'm taken aback. Have we met before, Frank, maybe somewhere else
> > under a different name? Have I perhaps unwittingly offended you?
> >
> > As you've *plonked* me, I don't suppose you'll see this.
> > Oh well, shit happens.
> >
>
> As I wrote: You are perceived as a Troll.
>

Ah. One of the problems with wrestling trolls is being mistaken for
one oneself -- lay down with dogs, get up with fleas sort of thing.
The old adage about wrestling pigs is particularly apposite, eh?

How do ~you~ get over that problem, Jörg?

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 23.02.24 00:37, Sn!pe wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>> Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh! I'm taken aback. Have we met before, Frank, maybe somewhere else
>>> under a different name? Have I perhaps unwittingly offended you?
>>>
>>> As you've *plonked* me, I don't suppose you'll see this.
>>> Oh well, shit happens.
>>>
>>
>> As I wrote: You are perceived as a Troll.
>>
>
> Ah. One of the problems with wrestling trolls is being mistaken for
> one oneself -- lay down with dogs, get up with fleas sort of thing.
> The old adage about wrestling pigs is particularly apposite, eh?
>
> How do ~you~ get over that problem, Jörg?

Killfile you like all other Trolls.

--
"Manus manum lavat."

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

[...]

> > How do ~you~ get over that problem, Jörg?
>
> Killfile you like all other Trolls.

I shall take that as an accolade. Goodbye.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 23.02.24 13:11, Sn!pe wrote:
> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> How do ~you~ get over that problem, Jörg?
>>
>> Killfile you like all other Trolls.
>
> I shall take that as an accolade. Goodbye.

Your welcome!

--
"Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"

On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> On 21.02.24 19:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-02-21 07:17, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 21.02.24 05:00, HenHanna wrote:
>>>> is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3 Signs of growth:
>>>>
>>>> There are indications of renewed interest in Usenet in recent years.
>>>>
>>>> This is attributed to several factors, including:
>>>>
>>>> (1) Disillusionment with mainstream social media: Users seeking
>>>> more privacy and less censorship might find Usenet appealing.
>>>>
>>>> (2) Niche appeal: Usenet thrives in specific areas like file
>>>> sharing and technical discussions due to its decentralized nature and
>>>> large historical archive.
>>>>
>>>> (3) Improved accessibility: Modern Usenet providers offer
>>>> user-friendly interfaces and easier access compared to the past.
>>>
>>> You are completely OT in this group.
>>>
>>> (Excessive X-posting deleted)
>>
>> And thus it is possible he doesn't see your reply.
>
> How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to
> all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
> killfiling is an option.

I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
thread only in one.

By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see
your reply. It is not polite.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
> On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to
>> all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
>> killfiling is an option.
>
> I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
> thread only in one.
>
> By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see
> your reply. It is not polite.

X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce
X-postings.

I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)