On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 23.02.23 um 16:32 schrieb Mike Easter:
>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>
>>>> my mistake, won't happen again until the next time
>>>
>>> Then please change the tiny URL into the actual link, they are about the
>>> same length and don't put people out:
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>> https://i.imgur.com/RsbswMP.png
>>>
>> tinyurl/s are also previewable. If the original/actual link had been so
>> long as to be a problem, one can label a previewable shortened link as such:
>>
>> Previewable: https://preview.tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>
>> When I post a long link that I have shortened to a previewable shortened
>> one, I post both the original and the previewable shortened one.
>>
>> Some people don't have any problem w/ their news agents breaking
>> shortened links, but others do.
>
> Shortended links are by no means best practice. Especially not in the
> Usenet.
>
> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at best
> because they mean additional work and risk.
>

What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
middle by most newsgroup readers?

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

Am 09.04.23 um 00:40 schrieb Brian Gregory:
> On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
>> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at best
>> because they mean additional work and risk.
>>
>
> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
> middle by most newsgroup readers?

A better newsreader like Thunderbird.

--
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On 2023-04-09 00:40, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 23.02.23 um 16:32 schrieb Mike Easter:
>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> my mistake, won't happen again until the next time
>>>>
>>>> Then please change the tiny URL into the actual link, they are about
>>>> the
>>>> same length and don't put people out:
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>> https://i.imgur.com/RsbswMP.png
>>>>
>>> tinyurl/s are also previewable.  If the original/actual link had been so
>>> long as to be a problem, one can label a previewable shortened link
>>> as such:
>>>
>>> Previewable:  https://preview.tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>
>>> When I post a long link that I have shortened to a previewable shortened
>>> one, I post both the original and the previewable shortened one.
>>>
>>> Some people don't have any problem w/ their news agents breaking
>>> shortened links, but others do.
>>
>> Shortended links are by no means best practice. Especially not in the
>> Usenet.
>>
>> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
>> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at best
>> because they mean additional work and risk.
>>
>
> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
> middle by most newsgroup readers?

Nothing. Just post them inside angled brackets "<long_url>". If they use
several lines, that's fine. The reader can join them manually if the
reader software doesn't do it automatically. That's preferable to not
being able to visually inspect the url.

>

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 4/8/2023 6:40 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 23.02.23 um 16:32 schrieb Mike Easter:
>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> my mistake, won't happen again until the next time
>>>>
>>>> Then please change the tiny URL into the actual link, they are about the
>>>> same length and don't put people out:
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>> https://i.imgur.com/RsbswMP.png
>>>>
>>> tinyurl/s are also previewable.  If the original/actual link had been so
>>> long as to be a problem, one can label a previewable shortened link as such:
>>>
>>> Previewable:  https://preview.tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>
>>> When I post a long link that I have shortened to a previewable shortened
>>> one, I post both the original and the previewable shortened one.
>>>
>>> Some people don't have any problem w/ their news agents breaking
>>> shortened links, but others do.
>>
>> Shortended links are by no means best practice. Especially not in the
>> Usenet.
>>
>> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
>> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at best
>> because they mean additional work and risk.
>>
>
> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the middle by most newsgroup readers?
>

mailnews.wraplength 1000

Test link, about 464 characters:

<http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>

Paul

Paul wrote on 9/4/23 6:35 pm:
> On 4/8/2023 6:40 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
>> On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 23.02.23 um 16:32 schrieb Mike Easter:
>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my mistake, won't happen again until the next time
>>>>>
>>>>> Then please change the tiny URL into the actual link, they are
>>>>> about the
>>>>> same length and don't put people out:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/RsbswMP.png
>>>>>
>>>> tinyurl/s are also previewable.  If the original/actual link had
>>>> been so
>>>> long as to be a problem, one can label a previewable shortened link
>>>> as such:
>>>>
>>>> Previewable:  https://preview.tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>
>>>> When I post a long link that I have shortened to a previewable
>>>> shortened
>>>> one, I post both the original and the previewable shortened one.
>>>>
>>>> Some people don't have any problem w/ their news agents breaking
>>>> shortened links, but others do.
>>>
>>> Shortended links are by no means best practice. Especially not in the
>>> Usenet.
>>>
>>> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
>>> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at best
>>> because they mean additional work and risk.
>>>
>>
>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in
>> the middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>
>
> mailnews.wraplength   1000
>
> Test link, about 464 characters:
>
> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>
>
>    Paul

WOW!! That's very colourful, Paul. ;-P What's the diagram meant to
represent, .... anything in particular?

(Using SeaMonkey Suite ... related to TB + FF)
--
Daniel

Am 09.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
> On 2023-04-09 00:40, Brian Gregory wrote:
>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
>> middle by most newsgroup readers?
>
> Nothing. Just post them inside angled brackets "<long_url>".

This is not necessary in TB.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

Am 09.04.23 um 10:35 schrieb Paul:
> Test link, about 464 characters:
>
> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>

The brackets are not needed.

--
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On 09/04/2023 10:40, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 09.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>> On 2023-04-09 00:40, Brian Gregory wrote:
>>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
>>> middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>
>> Nothing. Just post them inside angled brackets "<long_url>".
>
> This is not necessary in TB.
>

I've always used TB.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

On 2023-04-09 11:40, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 09.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>> On 2023-04-09 00:40, Brian Gregory wrote:
>>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
>>> middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>
>> Nothing. Just post them inside angled brackets "<long_url>".
>
> This is not necessary in TB.

I use Thunderbird, and indeed I had to recompose long urls.

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 2023-04-09 11:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 09.04.23 um 10:35 schrieb Paul:
>> Test link, about 464 characters:
>>
>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>
>
> The brackets are not needed.

Let's see.

http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

Le 09-04-2023, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
> On 2023-04-09 11:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 09.04.23 um 10:35 schrieb Paul:
>>> Test link, about 464 characters:
>>>
>>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>>
>>
>> The brackets are not needed.
>
> Let's see.
>
> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart

It works with slrn, but the most important thing is the url is only one
line. If the url is split to fit the 80 characters by line it's not that
fine.

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Carlos writes:
> Let's see.
http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart

Works fine in Gnus.

--
John Hasler
john@sugarbit.com
Dancing Horse Hill

On 2023-04-09 04:35, Paul wrote:
> On 4/8/2023 6:40 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
>> On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 23.02.23 um 16:32 schrieb Mike Easter:
>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my mistake, won't happen again until the next time
>>>>>
>>>>> Then please change the tiny URL into the actual link, they are
>>>>> about the
>>>>> same length and don't put people out:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/RsbswMP.png
>>>>>
>>>> tinyurl/s are also previewable.  If the original/actual link had
>>>> been so
>>>> long as to be a problem, one can label a previewable shortened link
>>>> as such:
>>>>
>>>> Previewable:  https://preview.tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>
>>>> When I post a long link that I have shortened to a previewable
>>>> shortened
>>>> one, I post both the original and the previewable shortened one.
>>>>
>>>> Some people don't have any problem w/ their news agents breaking
>>>> shortened links, but others do.
>>>
>>> Shortended links are by no means best practice. Especially not in the
>>> Usenet.
>>>
>>> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
>>> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at best
>>> because they mean additional work and risk.
>>>
>>
>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in
>> the middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>
>
> mailnews.wraplength   1000
>
> Test link, about 464 characters:
>
> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>
>    Paul

T-bird 109.1 in Mageia 9 handles that just fine.

TJ

Am 09.04.23 um 15:14 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On 2023-04-09 11:40, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 09.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>>> On 2023-04-09 00:40, Brian Gregory wrote:
>>>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
>>>> middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>>
>>> Nothing. Just post them inside angled brackets "<long_url>".
>>
>> This is not necessary in TB.
>
> I use Thunderbird, and indeed I had to recompose long urls.
>
https://de.euronews.com/video/2023/04/09/horror-in-der-osternacht-in-marseille-mehrere-gebaude-sturzen-ein

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

Am 09.04.23 um 15:22 schrieb Stéphane CARPENTIER:
> Le 09-04-2023, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
>> On 2023-04-09 11:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 09.04.23 um 10:35 schrieb Paul:
>>>> Test link, about 464 characters:
>>>>
>>>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>>>
>>>
>>> The brackets are not needed.
>>
>> Let's see.
>>
>> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart
>
> It works with slrn, but the most important thing is the url is only one
> line. If the url is split to fit the 80 characters by line it's not that
> fine.
>
I see it as 4 lines with 72 characters and it works perfectly.

--
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Am 09.04.23 um 19:39 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
> Am 09.04.23 um 15:22 schrieb Stéphane CARPENTIER:
>> Le 09-04-2023, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
>>> On 2023-04-09 11:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> Am 09.04.23 um 10:35 schrieb Paul:
>>>>> Test link, about 464 characters:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The brackets are not needed.
>>>
>>> Let's see.
>>>
>>> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart
>>
>> It works with slrn, but the most important thing is the url is only one
>> line. If the url is split to fit the 80 characters by line it's not that
>> fine.
>>
> I see it as 4 lines with 72 characters and it works perfectly.
>
Sorry: 6 lines.

--
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Am 09.04.23 um 15:14 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On 2023-04-09 11:40, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 09.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>>> On 2023-04-09 00:40, Brian Gregory wrote:
>>>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
>>>> middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>>
>>> Nothing. Just post them inside angled brackets "<long_url>".
>>
>> This is not necessary in TB.
>
> I use Thunderbird, and indeed I had to recompose long urls.

I had never to do this.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

On 2023-04-09 17:23, TJ wrote:
> On 2023-04-09 04:35, Paul wrote:
>> On 4/8/2023 6:40 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
>>> On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> Am 23.02.23 um 16:32 schrieb Mike Easter:
>>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my mistake, won't happen again until the next time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then please change the tiny URL into the actual link, they are
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> same length and don't put people out:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/RsbswMP.png
>>>>>>
>>>>> tinyurl/s are also previewable.  If the original/actual link had
>>>>> been so
>>>>> long as to be a problem, one can label a previewable shortened link
>>>>> as such:
>>>>>
>>>>> Previewable:  https://preview.tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>>
>>>>> When I post a long link that I have shortened to a previewable
>>>>> shortened
>>>>> one, I post both the original and the previewable shortened one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people don't have any problem w/ their news agents breaking
>>>>> shortened links, but others do.
>>>>
>>>> Shortended links are by no means best practice. Especially not in the
>>>> Usenet.
>>>>
>>>> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
>>>> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at
>>>> best
>>>> because they mean additional work and risk.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in
>>> the middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>>
>>
>> mailnews.wraplength   1000
>>
>> Test link, about 464 characters:
>>
>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>
> T-bird 109.1 in Mageia 9 handles that just fine.

Works here, too, but I know that sometimes it doesn't and I had to paste
sections of the url into FF. Why, no idea at this moment. Maybe
Thunderbird has solved a long standing bug.

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On 09/04/2023 19:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-04-09 17:23, TJ wrote:
>> On 2023-04-09 04:35, Paul wrote:
>>> On 4/8/2023 6:40 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
>>>> On 23/02/2023 15:44, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> Am 23.02.23 um 16:32 schrieb Mike Easter:
>>>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my mistake, won't happen again until the next time
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then please change the tiny URL into the actual link, they are
>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>> same length and don't put people out:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/RsbswMP.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> tinyurl/s are also previewable. If the original/actual link had
>>>>>> been so
>>>>>> long as to be a problem, one can label a previewable shortened
>>>>>> link as such:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Previewable: https://preview.tinyurl.com/rahk68hw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I post a long link that I have shortened to a previewable
>>>>>> shortened
>>>>>> one, I post both the original and the previewable shortened one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some people don't have any problem w/ their news agents breaking
>>>>>> shortened links, but others do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shortended links are by no means best practice. Especially not in the
>>>>> Usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether you have the same link behind a shortended link is more than
>>>>> questionable and not recognisable. Shortended links are impolite at
>>>>> best
>>>>> because they mean additional work and risk.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in
>>>> the middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>>>
>>>
>>> mailnews.wraplength 1000
>>>
>>> Test link, about 464 characters:
>>>
>>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>>>
>>
>> T-bird 109.1 in Mageia 9 handles that just fine.
>
> Works here, too, but I know that sometimes it doesn't and I had to paste
> sections of the url into FF. Why, no idea at this moment. Maybe
> Thunderbird has solved a long standing bug.
>

Long standing bug?
I'm using 52.2.1 (32 bit) and have no problems.

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On 09/04/2023 18:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 09.04.23 um 15:14 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>> On 2023-04-09 11:40, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 09.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>>>> On 2023-04-09 00:40, Brian Gregory wrote:
>>>>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the
>>>>> middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing. Just post them inside angled brackets "<long_url>".
>>>
>>> This is not necessary in TB.
>>
>> I use Thunderbird, and indeed I had to recompose long urls.
>
> I had never to do this.
>

Maybe I just saw the weird way TB tends to display long URLs after they
are pasted in (split at ampersands and dashes and so on) and just
assumed the URL was broken.

I'll try and remember not to use <> in the future.

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Am 09.04.23 um 20:01 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On 2023-04-09 17:23, TJ wrote:
>> On 2023-04-09 04:35, Paul wrote:
>>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>>
>> T-bird 109.1 in Mageia 9 handles that just fine.
>
> Works here, too, but I know that sometimes it doesn't and I had to paste
> sections of the url into FF. Why, no idea at this moment. Maybe
> Thunderbird has solved a long standing bug.

That worked here for many many years.

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On 2023-04-09, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

>> What do you recommend for really long links that would get split in the middle by most newsgroup readers?
>>
>
> mailnews.wraplength 1000
>
> Test link, about 464 characters:
>
><http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>
> Paul

http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart

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On 2023-04-09 14:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>> T-bird 109.1 in Mageia 9 handles that just fine.
>
> Works here, too, but I know that sometimes it doesn't and I had to paste
> sections of the url into FF. Why, no idea at this moment. Maybe
> Thunderbird has solved a long standing bug.

I have seen it before, but it seems like it's been years.

I can remember it happening with some posts and not with others so I've
always thought it had more to do with the word wrap settings of whatever
the poster used to craft the message than the settings of the
Thunderbird receiving it.

TJ

Le 09-04-2023, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> a écrit :
> Am 09.04.23 um 19:39 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
>> Am 09.04.23 um 15:22 schrieb Stéphane CARPENTIER:
>>> Le 09-04-2023, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
>>>> On 2023-04-09 11:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> Am 09.04.23 um 10:35 schrieb Paul:
>>>>>> Test link, about 464 characters:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The brackets are not needed.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see.
>>>>
>>>> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&chma=0,0,100,100&cht=p&chco=FF0000%2CFFFF00%7CFF8000%2C00FF00%7C00FF00%2C0000FF&chd=t%3A122%2C42%2C17%2C10%2C8%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C7%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C6%2C5%2C5&chl=122%7C42%7C17%7C10%7C8%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C7%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C6%7C5%7C5&chdl=android%7Cjava%7Cstack-trace%7Cbroadcastreceiver%7Candroid-ndk%7Cuser-agent%7Candroid-webview%7Cwebview%7Cbackground%7Cmultithreading%7Candroid-source%7Csms%7Cadb%7Csollections%7Cactivity|Chart
>>>
>>> It works with slrn, but the most important thing is the url is only one
>>> line. If the url is split to fit the 80 characters by line it's not that
>>> fine.
>>>
>> I see it as 4 lines with 72 characters and it works perfectly.
>>
> Sorry: 6 lines.

<https://ibb.co/SyVRL85>

Your reader visually wrapping the long urls doesn't mean they are split
on many lines with some carriage return inserted inside of them. When
I'm posting this message, I'll have a warning telling me some of my
lines are too long.

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Am 10.04.23 um 10:24 schrieb Stéphane CARPENTIER:
> <https://ibb.co/SyVRL85>
>
> Your reader visually wrapping the long urls doesn't mean they are split
> on many lines with some carriage return inserted inside of them. When
> I'm posting this message, I'll have a warning telling me some of my
> lines are too long.

I force my TBs to wrap after 72 characters under any circumstances. I
also dectivate any format flowed-functions.

BTW: I do not open shortened links like the one above.

Joerg

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