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* No spam in these nocemsllp
+* Re: No spam in these nocemsRay Banana
|`* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
| +- Re: No spam in these nocemsD
| +* Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam H. Kerman
| |+* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
| ||+* Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam H. Kerman
| |||`- Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
| ||`* Re: No spam in these nocemsRay Banana
| || `- Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
| |`- Re: No spam in these nocemsNomen Nescio
| `- Re: No spam in these nocemsyamo'
`* Re: No spam in these nocemsyamo'
 +- Re: No spam in these nocemsllp
 +* Re: No spam in these nocemsRay Banana
 |+- Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 |+* Re: No spam in these nocemsD
 ||`* Re: No spam in these nocemscandycanearter07
 || `* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 ||  +* Re: No spam in these nocemsRay Banana
 ||  |`* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 ||  | `* Re: No spam in these nocemsFrank Slootweg
 ||  |  +* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 ||  |  |+* Re: No spam in these nocemsFrank Slootweg
 ||  |  ||`* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 ||  |  || +- Re: No spam in these nocemsSn!pe
 ||  |  || `- Re: No spam in these nocemsFrank Slootweg
 ||  |  |`* Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam H. Kerman
 ||  |  | `* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 ||  |  |  `* Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam H. Kerman
 ||  |  |   `* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 ||  |  |    `* Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam H. Kerman
 ||  |  |     +- Re: No spam in these nocemsOlivier Miakinen
 ||  |  |     `* Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 ||  |  |      `* Re: No spam in these nocemsRay Banana
 ||  |  |       `- Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam H. Kerman
 ||  |  `* Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam H. Kerman
 ||  |   `- Re: No spam in these nocemsFrank Slootweg
 ||  `* Re: No spam in these nocemscandycanearter07
 ||   +* Re: No spam in these nocemsRay Banana
 ||   |`* Re: No spam in these nocemscandycanearter07
 ||   | `- Re: No spam in these nocemsllp
 ||   `- Re: No spam in these nocemsEric M
 |`* Re: No spam in these nocemsyamo'
 | `- Re: No spam in these nocemsRay Banana
 `* Re: No spam in these nocemsAdam W.
  `- Re: No spam in these nocemsyamo'

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No spam in these nocems

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Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!news.hispagatos.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!usenet.ovh!news.usenet.ovh!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: contact@usenet.ovh (llp)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: No spam in these nocems
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 01:00:09 +0100
Organization: NUO - News.Usenet.Ovh
Message-ID: <urr5qa$ed3c$1@news.usenet.ovh>
References: <uro04v$186$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>
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Injection-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 00:00:10 -0000 (UTC)
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X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-fr
 by: llp - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 00:00 UTC

nono le petit robot a exprimé avec précision dans
<uro04v$186$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> :

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> [Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet]
>
> This is a notice for a spam detected by a spamAssassin script.
> The message referenced after NCM BODY is probably a spam.
[cut]
> ###############
> <https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html>
> ###############
[cut]
> #################################
> <https://pasdenom.info/nocem.html>
> #################################
>
>
> @@BEGIN NCM HEADERS
> Version: 0.93
> Issuer: robot@pasdenom.info
> Type: spam
> Action: hide
> Count: 1
> Notice-ID: fr.20240228200501.1260
> @@BEGIN NCM BODY
> <uro03k$1dv2$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> @@END NCM BODY

It doesn't look like spam

Same problem with nocem <uro1jq$4mk$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>:
@@BEGIN NCM HEADERS
Version: 0.93
Issuer: robot@pasdenom.info
Type: spam
Action: hide
Count: 3
Notice-ID: fr.20240228203001.4802
@@BEGIN NCM BODY
<uro1cn$1lo4$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
<uro1cs$1rl2$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
<uro1fb$1lo4$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
@@END NCM BODY

It doesn't look like spam

Same problem with nocem <url9du$pvs$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>:
@@BEGIN NCM HEADERS
Version: 0.93
Issuer: robot@pasdenom.info
Type: spam
Action: hide
Count: 1
Notice-ID: fr.20240227192501.26602
@BEGIN NCM BODY
<url95q$3ba9t$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
@@END NCM BODY

It doesn't look like spam

Sincerely

Re: No spam in these nocems

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From: rayban@raybanana.net (Ray Banana)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: No spam in these nocems
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 07:04:55 +0100
Organization: A noiseless patient spider
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Message-ID: <8m4jdq4hdk.fsf@raybanana.net>
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X-Attribution: Ray Banana
 by: Ray Banana - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 06:04 UTC

Thus spake llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
> It doesn't look like spam
> Same problem with nocem <uro1jq$4mk$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>:
> @@BEGIN NCM HEADERS
> Version: 0.93
> Issuer: robot@pasdenom.info
> Type: spam
> Action: hide
> Count: 3
> Notice-ID: fr.20240228203001.4802
> @@BEGIN NCM BODY
> <uro1cn$1lo4$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> <uro1cs$1rl2$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> <uro1fb$1lo4$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> @@END NCM BODY

> It doesn't look like spam

> Same problem with nocem <url9du$pvs$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>:
> @@BEGIN NCM HEADERS
> Version: 0.93
> Issuer: robot@pasdenom.info
> Type: spam
> Action: hide
> Count: 1
> Notice-ID: fr.20240227192501.26602
> @BEGIN NCM BODY
> <url95q$3ba9t$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> @@END NCM BODY
> It doesn't look like spam

Doesn't really improve yamo's reputation as a NoCem issuer.

--
Пу́тін — хуйло́
https://www.eternal-september.org

Re: No spam in these nocems

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Subject: Re: No spam in these nocems
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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 11:05 UTC

Le 01/03/2024 à 07:04, Ray Banana a écrit :

> Doesn't really improve yamo's reputation as a NoCem issuer.

Usenet, what a great family.

Re: No spam in these nocems

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From: J@M (D)
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Subject: Re: No spam in these nocems
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 14:16:40 +0100 (CET)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
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Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
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 by: D - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 13:16 UTC

On Fri, 01 Mar 24 11:05:59 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
>Le 01/03/2024 a 07:04, Ray Banana a ecrit :
>> Doesn't really improve yamo's reputation as a NoCem issuer.
>
>Usenet, what a great family.

usenet is autonomous and decentralized

Re: No spam in these nocems

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From: ahk@chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: No spam in these nocems
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 16:33:50 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 16:33 UTC

Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
>01/03/2024 07:04, Ray Banana:

>>Doesn't really improve yamo's reputation as a NoCem issuer.

>Usenet, what a great family.

I'd don't see any difference between this and the cancellers using
cancel messages as an abuse countermeasure. It's all about the reputation
of the person issuing them.

We've had thread after thread in which several of us pointed out both
false negatives and false positives. The various NoCeM issuers
participating in those threads took it seriously, addressing issues that
were raised. That's how you maintain your reputation.

Re: No spam in these nocems

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From: yamo@beurdin.invalid (yamo')
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: No spam in these nocems
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 18:33:39 +0100
Organization: <http://pasdenom.info/news.html>
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 by: yamo' - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 17:33 UTC

Hi,

I've just seen this thread,

llp a tapoté le 01/03/2024 01:00:
> <uro1cn$1lo4$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> <uro1cs$1rl2$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> <uro1fb$1lo4$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet

Strange, check at this time does not match them has spam.

Nono, will not look at news.admin.net-abuse.usenet ...

--
Stéphane
<http://pasdenom.info/news.html>

Re: No spam in these nocems

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Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: No spam in these nocems
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 18:19:27 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: yamo' - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 18:19 UTC

Eric M a écrit :
> Le 01/03/2024 à 07:04, Ray Banana a écrit :

>> Doesn't really improve yamo's reputation as a NoCem issuer.

> Usenet, what a great family.

Thanks Éric

I do not have time at this time to read those bad posts

Re: No spam in these nocems

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 18:20 UTC

Le 01/03/2024 à 17:33, "Adam H. Kerman" a écrit :

> I'd don't see any difference between this and the cancellers using
> cancel messages as an abuse countermeasure. It's all about the reputation
> of the person issuing them.

Yes, but what about the newsmaster of a server depreciating what another
newsmaster does ? I thought usenet was a network where everyone was equal.
And now we have llp attacking three servers at a time (Nemo, PasDeNom ans
Paganini) and the newsmaster of ES participating in this campaign ? Do
they want to destroy the network ?
> We've had thread after thread in which several of us pointed out both
> false negatives and false positives. The various NoCeM issuers
> participating in those threads took it seriously, addressing issues that
> were raised. That's how you maintain your reputation.

LLP is a troll, he can launch a new thread everyday, that's what he did
with Alphanet, but it appears he wants to kill all the servers that do not
agree with him, he is a danger to what is left of usenet.

Re: No spam in these nocems

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Subject: Re: No spam in these nocems
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 18:36 UTC

Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
>Le 01/03/2024 17:33, Adam H. Kerman:

>>I'd don't see any difference between this and the cancellers using
>>cancel messages as an abuse countermeasure. It's all about the reputation
>>of the person issuing them.

>Yes, but what about the newsmaster of a server depreciating what another
>newsmaster does ? I thought usenet was a network where everyone was equal.
>And now we have llp attacking three servers at a time (Nemo, PasDeNom ans
>Paganini) and the newsmaster of ES participating in this campaign ? Do
>they want to destroy the network ?

Ray has his own opinion. He's certainly disagreed with me many times
over the years. I do comment but I'm not a News administrator. I cannot
comment on the quality of yamo's NoCeMs, just making a general comment on
reputation.

I take it Ray took a look and felt that some of them weren't issued as
abuse countermeasures.
>>We've had thread after thread in which several of us pointed out both
>>false negatives and false positives. The various NoCeM issuers
>>participating in those threads took it seriously, addressing issues that
>>were raised. That's how you maintain your reputation.

>LLP is a troll, he can launch a new thread everyday, that's what he did
>with Alphanet, but it appears he wants to kill all the servers that do not
>agree with him, he is a danger to what is left of usenet.

Regardless of his desire, he has no such authority. Decentralization is
Usenet's greatest virtue.

I don't agree with you. That's over the top.

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 by: Ray Banana - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 20:41 UTC

Thus spake Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com>
> Yes, but what about the newsmaster of a server depreciating what
> another newsmaster does ?

That was not depreciation, but criticism. A NoCeM issuer who publishes a
NoCeM policy should stick to his own policy at all times. Declaring
three of Adam's posts in n.a.n-a.u as "spam" as opposed to "spam2",
"spam3" and "spam4" (cf. https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html) is clearly
in violation of his own published policy and hence detrimental for his
reputation as a NoCeM issuer. The NoCeM message llp quoted is not an
individual case, there are more such dubious NoCeM messages;

<uro1jq$4mk$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>
<ursa4i$7bq$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>

Discussion and criticism of NoCeM messages in this group is explicitly
encouraged by the use of the Followup-To: header in each NoCeM message
and essential to improving the quality of NoCeMs.

> And now we have llp attacking three servers at a
> time (Nemo, PasDeNom ans Paganini) and the newsmaster of ES
> participating in this campaign ? Do they want to destroy the network ?

Straw man fallacy or Classical unsubstantiated pontification, as Tholen
used to say.

I do not participate in any campaigns and I did not mention Nemoweb, let
alone Paganini, my criticism was solely directed at the operator of "nono
le petit robot", for the reason given above.

--
Пу́тін — хуйло́
https://www.eternal-september.org

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 20:56 UTC

Le 01/03/2024 à 21:41, Ray Banana a écrit :

> That was not depreciation, but criticism. A NoCeM issuer who publishes a
> NoCeM policy should stick to his own policy at all times. Declaring
> three of Adam's posts in n.a.n-a.u as "spam" as opposed to "spam2",
> "spam3" and "spam4" (cf. https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html) is clearly
> in violation of his own published policy and hence detrimental for his
> reputation as a NoCeM issuer. The NoCeM message llp quoted is not an
> individual case, there are more such dubious NoCeM messages;

So simply don't use them, don't tell the world they are bad.
> Discussion and criticism of NoCeM messages in this group is explicitly
> encouraged by the use of the Followup-To: header in each NoCeM message
> and essential to improving the quality of NoCeMs.

He will come every day with a new story, like he did in fr.*.
> I do not participate in any campaigns and I did not mention Nemoweb, let
> alone Paganini, my criticism was solely directed at the operator of "nono
> le petit robot", for the reason given above.

Oh yes you are, you don't know it yet but one day you will realize.

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 21:00 UTC

Le 01/03/2024 à 19:36, "Adam H. Kerman" a écrit :

> Ray has his own opinion. He's certainly disagreed with me many times
> over the years. I do comment but I'm not a News administrator. I cannot
> comment on the quality of yamo's NoCeMs, just making a general comment on
> reputation.

It's not about Ray.
>> LLP is a troll, he can launch a new thread everyday, that's what he did
>> with Alphanet, but it appears he wants to kill all the servers that do not
>> agree with him, he is a danger to what is left of usenet.

> Regardless of his desire, he has no such authority. Decentralization is
> Usenet's greatest virtue.

Look for a server named alphanet.ch, you won't find it, it was running
since 1996 before LLP came, so I think bullying can do terrible things.

> I don't agree with you. That's over the top.

Ok, we'll see what he will find tomorrow (and the day after, etc).

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 by: llp - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 22:29 UTC

Le 01/03/2024, yamo' a supposé :
> Hi,
>
> I've just seen this thread,
>
> llp a tapoté le 01/03/2024 01:00:
>> <uro1cn$1lo4$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>> <uro1cs$1rl2$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>> <uro1fb$1lo4$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>
> Strange, check at this time does not match them has spam.
>
> Nono, will not look at news.admin.net-abuse.usenet ...

And so nocem <uro1jq$4mk$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> come from ?

--
Admin of news.usenet.ovh

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 by: Nomen Nescio - Sat, 2 Mar 2024 00:04 UTC

On 01 Mar 2024, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> posted some
news:urt01e$1apr6$2@dont-email.me:

> Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>01/03/2024 07:04, Ray Banana:
>
>>>Doesn't really improve yamo's reputation as a NoCem issuer.
>
>>Usenet, what a great family.
>
> I'd don't see any difference between this and the cancellers using
> cancel messages as an abuse countermeasure. It's all about the
> reputation of the person issuing them.
>
> We've had thread after thread in which several of us pointed out both
> false negatives and false positives. The various NoCeM issuers
> participating in those threads took it seriously, addressing issues
> that were raised. That's how you maintain your reputation.

Never mind that some of the issuers use it as a personal weapon to
censor posters who rub them raw, re: the Edmond Wollmann era. Ed did
have a way of inviting it though.

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 by: Ray Banana - Sat, 2 Mar 2024 04:00 UTC

Thus spake yamo' <yamo@beurdin.invalid>
>> <uro1cn$1lo4$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>> <uro1cs$1rl2$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>> <uro1fb$1lo4$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> Strange, check at this time does not match them has spam.

Hi, could you, please, check the following false positives:

2024-02-25 16:15:02 <urfp26$7lg$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urfp0j$f99$1@panix2.panix.com> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
2024-02-25 21:15:02 <urgakm$bua$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urgajg$22g45$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
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2024-02-26 05:42:03 <urh8bb$2mi$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urh3g7$2mm6$1@neodome.net> news.admin.peering
2024-02-26 11:42:03 <urhteb$c39$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <slrnutou0s.diu.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com> news.software.readers
2024-02-26 11:42:03 <urhteb$c39$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net> news.software.readers
2024-02-26 11:42:03 <urhteb$c39$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <XnsB124645989C50colingmacleodyahooco@135.181.20.170> news.software.readers
2024-02-26 12:05:02 <urhupe$ej0$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <slrnutovf2.diu.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com> news.software.readers
2024-02-26 13:42:02 <uri4fa$pj7$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <XnsB124781FB5C61colingmacleodyahooco@135.181.20.170> news.software.readers
2024-02-26 16:15:02 <uride6$d2u$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urid51$2ke0h$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.peering
2024-02-26 21:42:03 <urj0jb$k8t$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <uriv0r$2oi5i$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
2024-02-26 23:42:02 <urj7ka$1lh$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <JXwMf+53EanUfKYN2@bongo-ra.co> news.software.readers
2024-02-27 05:42:02 <urjsna$5pl$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urjnhl$30pvi$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
2024-02-27 16:10:03 <url1gr$apn$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urknhu$37cem$1@dont-email.me> news.groups.proposals
2024-02-27 18:25:02 <url9du$pvs$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <url95q$3ba9t$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
2024-02-28 19:05:03 <uro04v$186$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <uro03k$1dv2$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
2024-03-01 10:20:02 <ursa4i$7bq$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <ursa3g$rpl$1@gallifrey.nk.ca> news.admin.net-abuse.misc
2024-03-01 17:42:03 <urt41b$sse$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <1uxjarc5dx0gy.dlg@v.nguard.lh> news.software.readers

Thanks in advance.

--
Пу́тін — хуйло́
https://www.eternal-september.org

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Sat, 2 Mar 2024 11:40 UTC

Le 02/03/2024 à 05:00, Ray Banana a écrit :

> Hi, could you, please, check the following false positives:

Are you a judge ?

Re: No spam in these nocems

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 by: D - Sat, 2 Mar 2024 15:30 UTC

On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 05:00:09 +0100, Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:
>Thus spake yamo' <yamo@beurdin.invalid>
>>> <uro1cn$1lo4$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>>> <uro1cs$1rl2$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>>> <uro1fb$1lo4$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>> Strange, check at this time does not match them has spam.
>
>Hi, could you, please, check the following false positives:
>2024-02-25 16:15:02 <urfp26$7lg$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urfp0j$f99$1@panix2.panix.com> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
>2024-02-25 21:15:02 <urgakm$bua$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urgajg$22g45$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
From: HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com>
>2024-02-25 21:55:02 <urgcvm$h62$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urgbs2$22t7u$2@dont-email.me> news.groups.proposals
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
>2024-02-25 23:15:03 <urghln$qtb$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urgh6d$24l7j$1@dont-email.me> news.groups.proposals
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
>2024-02-26 05:42:03 <urh8bb$2mi$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urh3g7$2mm6$1@neodome.net> news.admin.peering
From: Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa>
>2024-02-26 11:42:03 <urhteb$c39$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <slrnutou0s.diu.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com> news.software.readers
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>2024-02-26 12:05:02 <urhupe$ej0$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <slrnutovf2.diu.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com> news.software.readers
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>2024-02-26 16:15:02 <uride6$d2u$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urid51$2ke0h$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.peering
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>2024-02-26 21:42:03 <urj0jb$k8t$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <uriv0r$2oi5i$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
>2024-02-28 19:05:03 <uro04v$186$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <uro03k$1dv2$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
>2024-03-01 10:20:02 <ursa4i$7bq$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <ursa3g$rpl$1@gallifrey.nk.ca> news.admin.net-abuse.misc
From: The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
>2024-03-01 17:42:03 <urt41b$sse$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <1uxjarc5dx0gy.dlg@v.nguard.lh> news.software.readers
From: VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
>
>Thanks in advance.

only curious . . . looks random, not selective . . . muddying the waters?

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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:55 UTC

D <J@M> wrote at 15:30 this Saturday (GMT):
> On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 05:00:09 +0100, Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:
>>Thus spake yamo' <yamo@beurdin.invalid>
>>>> <uro1cn$1lo4$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>>>> <uro1cs$1rl2$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>>>> <uro1fb$1lo4$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>>> Strange, check at this time does not match them has spam.
>>
>>Hi, could you, please, check the following false positives:
>>2024-02-25 16:15:02 <urfp26$7lg$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urfp0j$f99$1@panix2.panix.com> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
>>2024-02-25 21:15:02 <urgakm$bua$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urgajg$22g45$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
> From: HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com>
>>2024-02-25 21:55:02 <urgcvm$h62$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urgbs2$22t7u$2@dont-email.me> news.groups.proposals
> From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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> From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
>>2024-02-26 05:42:03 <urh8bb$2mi$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urh3g7$2mm6$1@neodome.net> news.admin.peering
> From: Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa>
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> From: Colin Macleod <cgm@erehwon.invalid>
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> From: Colin Macleod <cgm@erehwon.invalid>
>>2024-02-26 16:15:02 <uride6$d2u$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urid51$2ke0h$1@dont-email.me> news.admin.peering
> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>2024-02-26 21:42:03 <urj0jb$k8t$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <uriv0r$2oi5i$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>

? Why am I being flagged?

>>2024-02-26 23:42:02 <urj7ka$1lh$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <JXwMf+53EanUfKYN2@bongo-ra.co> news.software.readers
> From: Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com>
>>2024-02-27 05:42:02 <urjsna$5pl$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urjnhl$30pvi$1@dont-email.me> news.software.readers
> From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
>>2024-02-27 16:10:03 <url1gr$apn$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <urknhu$37cem$1@dont-email.me> news.groups.proposals
> From: immibis <news@immibis.com>
>>2024-02-27 18:25:02 <url9du$pvs$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <url95q$3ba9t$3@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
>>2024-02-28 19:05:03 <uro04v$186$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <uro03k$1dv2$2@dont-email.me> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
>>2024-03-01 10:20:02 <ursa4i$7bq$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <ursa3g$rpl$1@gallifrey.nk.ca> news.admin.net-abuse.misc
> From: The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
>>2024-03-01 17:42:03 <urt41b$sse$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <1uxjarc5dx0gy.dlg@v.nguard.lh> news.software.readers
> From: VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>
> only curious . . . looks random, not selective . . . muddying the waters?
>

--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 17:40 UTC

Le 04/03/2024 à 17:55, candycanearter07 a écrit :

>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>
> ? Why am I being flagged?

I don't know, but your invalid mail must end with ".invalid".

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 by: Ray Banana - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 18:29 UTC

Thus spake Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com>
> Le 04/03/2024 à 17:55, candycanearter07 a écrit :
>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> ? Why am I being flagged?
> I don't know, but your invalid mail must end with ".invalid".

Of course you don't know. Only the issuer of the NoCeMs can answer this
question reliably. Why doesn't yamo' speak for himself? Ignoring reports
about suspected false positives in NoCeM messages can seriously damage
his reputation.

--
Пу́тін — хуйло́
https://www.eternal-september.org

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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:50 UTC

Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote at 17:40 this Monday (GMT):
> Le 04/03/2024 à 17:55, candycanearter07 a écrit :
>
>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>
>> ? Why am I being flagged?
>
> I don't know, but your invalid mail must end with ".invalid".

It's a real domain that Spalls Surgeston let me use. I don't think
they ever check the email tho.
--
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 by: Ray Banana - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:55 UTC

Thus spake candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote at 17:40 this Monday (GMT):
>> Le 04/03/2024 à 17:55, candycanearter07 a écrit :
>>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> ? Why am I being flagged?
>> I don't know, but your invalid mail must end with ".invalid".
> It's a real domain that Spalls Surgeston let me use. I don't think
> they ever check the email tho.

PMFJI, I think you made a mistake with your mail address. You got
permission to use nomail.afraid.org and not a non-existent subdomain of
it. The domain nomail.afraid does not exist, just like the top level
domain .afraid,

Does yamo issue NoCeMs for non-existent domain names in the from address?

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Re: No spam in these nocems

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:57 UTC

Le 04/03/2024 à 19:29, Ray Banana a écrit :

> Of course you don't know. Only the issuer of the NoCeMs can answer this
> question reliably. Why doesn't yamo' speak for himself? Ignoring reports
> about suspected false positives in NoCeM messages can seriously damage
> his reputation.

I repeat myself one last time, you are not a judge, yamo' can broadcast
any NoCems he wants, if you have a problem with them don't use them. EOT,
there is really nothing to add.

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:59 UTC

Le 04/03/2024 à 20:50, candycanearter07 a écrit :

>>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>

>>> ? Why am I being flagged?

>> I don't know, but your invalid mail must end with ".invalid".
> It's a real domain that Spalls Surgeston let me use. I don't think
> they ever check the email tho.

Even if you can use it, it can't be an email address, so your from is
invalid which can cause problems.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 22:28 UTC

Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote at 20:55 this Monday (GMT):
> Thus spake candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>
>> Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote at 17:40 this Monday (GMT):
>>> Le 04/03/2024 à 17:55, candycanearter07 a écrit :
>>>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>>>> From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>>> ? Why am I being flagged?
>>> I don't know, but your invalid mail must end with ".invalid".
>> It's a real domain that Spalls Surgeston let me use. I don't think
>> they ever check the email tho.
>
> PMFJI, I think you made a mistake with your mail address. You got
> permission to use nomail.afraid.org and not a non-existent subdomain of
> it. The domain nomail.afraid does not exist, just like the top level
> domain .afraid,
>
> Does yamo issue NoCeMs for non-existent domain names in the from address?

Oh maybe..
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