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* Is Macrium gone?jason_warren@ieee.org
+* Is Macrium gone?Big Al
|`* Is Macrium gone?jason_warren@ieee.org
| +- Is Macrium gone?Paul
| +* Is Macrium gone?...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
| |+* Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| ||+* Is Macrium gone?Zaghadka
| |||`* Is Macrium gone?Brian Gregory
| ||| `* Is Macrium gone?...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
| |||  `* Is Macrium gone?Mark Drummond
| |||   `- Is Macrium gone?...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
| ||+- Is Macrium gone?s|b
| ||+* Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||+* Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| ||||`* Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||| +* Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| |||| |`* Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||| | +* Is Macrium gone?Paul
| |||| | |+* Is Macrium gone?Char Jackson
| |||| | ||`- Is Macrium gone?Paul
| |||| | |`- Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||| | +* Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| |||| | |`* Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||| | | `* Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| |||| | |  +* Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| |||| | |  |`* Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||| | |  | `- Is Macrium gone?Ant
| |||| | |  `- Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||| | `- Is Macrium gone?Frank Slootweg
| |||| `* Is Macrium gone?Paul
| ||||  `* Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| ||||   `* Is Macrium gone?Paul
| ||||    +- Is Macrium gone?Char Jackson
| ||||    `- Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| |||`* Is Macrium gone?Bill Bradshaw
| ||| `- Is Macrium gone?Stan Brown
| ||`* Is Macrium gone?Philip Herlihy
| || `* Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| ||  `- Is Macrium gone?Ed Cryer
| |`* Is Macrium gone?s|b
| | `- Is Macrium gone?...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
| `- Is Macrium gone?Zaghadka
+* Is Macrium gone?Ken Blake
|`- Is Macrium gone?jason_warren@ieee.org
`- Is Macrium gone?wasbit

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Is Macrium gone?

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 by: jason_warren@ieee.or - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 21:36 UTC

I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

Re: Is Macrium gone?

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 by: Big Al - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 21:58 UTC

On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
> I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
>
https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

--
Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
Al

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 by: jason_warren@ieee.or - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 22:27 UTC

In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...
>
> On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
> > I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
> >
> https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

Thanks!

Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!

Re: Is Macrium gone?

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 by: Paul - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 08:53 UTC

On 12/5/2023 5:27 PM, jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
> In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...
>>
>> On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
>>> I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
>>>
>> https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
>
> Thanks!
>
> Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
> macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!
>

You can try popular domain names in Wikipedia, and
get an "authoritative" URL for the home site for it there.

A search on Macrium, gives Macrium Reflect, but the domain
does not point you to the reflectfree page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrium_Reflect

Paul

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 11:05 UTC

jason_warren@ieee.org wrote on 12/5/23 3:27 PM:
> In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...
>>
>> On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
>>> I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
>>>
>> https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
>
> Thanks!
>
> Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
> macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!
>
You might consider obtaining an earlier MR free version rather than the
current 'free trial' version.

e.g.
macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7690.x64.exe
or
macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7279.x64.exe

Previously posted in this forum
"the free version is going away, and there will be no further feature
updates. Security updates will continue until January 1, 2024, however.
The free software license won't be affected, and it can be used "in
perpetuity."

See this article for links and options.
<https://www.elevenforum.com/t/latest-macrium-reflect-updates.7550/page-26#post-302309>

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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 by: Ed Cryer - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31 UTC

...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> jason_warren@ieee.org wrote on 12/5/23 3:27 PM:
>> In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...
>>>
>>> On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
>>>> I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
>>>>
>>> https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
>> macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!
>>
> You might consider obtaining an earlier MR free version rather than the
> current 'free trial' version.
>
> e.g.
> macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7690.x64.exe
> or
> macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7279.x64.exe
>

You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
Ed

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 by: Zaghadka - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:48 UTC

On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 17:27:07 -0500, "jason_warren@ieee.org"
<jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:

>In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...
>>
>> On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
>> > I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
>> >
>> https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
>
>Thanks!
>
>Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
>macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!

You using its internal secure (https) domain server (Cloudflare)? It
might have been a DNS problem.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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 by: Zaghadka - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:52 UTC

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
wrote:

>...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> jason_warren@ieee.org wrote on 12/5/23 3:27 PM:
>>> In article <uko6e6$cm0d$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 12/5/23 04:36 PM, this is what jason_warren@ieee.org wrote:
>>>>> I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
>>>>>
>>>> https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Truly bizarre - when I searched with Firefox
>>> macrium.* was nowhere to be found. Chrome found it!
>>>
>> You might consider obtaining an earlier MR free version rather than the
>> current 'free trial' version.
>>
>> e.g.
>> macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7690.x64.exe
>> or
>> macrium-reflect-free-8-0.7279.x64.exe
>>
>
>
>You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
>https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>
>That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
>

I just up and bought it at this point. My version is 8.1.7784, if anyone
is interested.

I like the resident ransomware image protection it offers.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 04:05:42 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

> You might consider obtaining an earlier MR free version rather than the
> current 'free trial' version.

Yeah, no. 8.* is still free. I'm using 8.0.7783.

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 by: s|b - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 14:31 UTC

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

If you use ReflectDLHF.exe, then you get 7783 (which is also in the
topic of the site you posted). I have no idea what 7784 is about.
> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

They updated 8.0.* after announcing it would be the last free version.
But it's always possible there's another (free) update of 8.0.*, no?

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 15:01 UTC

On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 16:36:04 -0500, "jason_warren@ieee.org"
<jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:

>I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?

Out of curiosity I just did a search on Macrium in the latest version
of FireFox running under the latest version of Windows 11
Professional. No problem here.

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 by: Stan Brown - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:06 UTC

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>
> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.

Ed,

Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
and extract individual files from it?

Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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 by: Ed Cryer - Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:45 UTC

Stan Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
>> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>>
>> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
>
> Ed,
>
> Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
> and extract individual files from it?
>
> Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
> to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
> external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
> then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
> be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.
>

Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
my years-long installation of Macrium.
And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
whether you paid for it or not.

Ed

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 by: Philip Herlihy - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:01 UTC

In article <ukppl3$oq9v$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer wrote...
>
....
>
> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>
> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
>
> Ed

Useful, thanks. 177MB is fairly small - is this just a stub, or the full
application? And what are the "home" versions?

--

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 by: Ed Cryer - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:36 UTC

Philip Herlihy wrote:
> In article <ukppl3$oq9v$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer wrote...
>>
> ...
>>
>> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
>> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>>
>> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
>>
>> Ed
>
> Useful, thanks. 177MB is fairly small - is this just a stub, or the full
> application? And what are the "home" versions?
>

The 177MB is the full application.
I can't figure out what "home" version is, but it's 30MB larger.
Go for the non-home, my suggestion.

Ed

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 by: Ed Cryer - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:54 UTC

Ed Cryer wrote:
> Philip Herlihy wrote:
>> In article <ukppl3$oq9v$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer wrote...
>>>
>> ...
>>>
>>> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
>>> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>>>
>>> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>
>> Useful, thanks.  177MB is fairly small - is this just a stub, or the full
>> application?  And what are the "home" versions?
>>
>
> The 177MB is the full application.
> I can't figure out what "home" version is, but it's 30MB larger.
> Go for the non-home, my suggestion.
>
> Ed
Something just occurred to me. Macrium have always distinguished between
"commercial" and "home" use; the latter being for free use.
If you've installed the non-home, and after a month get asked to pay,
uninstall it and install the "home" version.
Ed

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:46 UTC

s|b wrote on 12/6/23 7:27 AM:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 04:05:42 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>
>> You might consider obtaining an earlier MR free version rather than the
>> current 'free trial' version.
>
> Yeah, no. 8.* is still free. I'm using 8.0.7783.
>
Yes, I overlooked my installed version number. Previously I updated in
the program for version 8.0 from 7690 to 7783.

My error, was looking at the version number of the full version x64 exe
file that was downloaded in Oct 2023(which iirc was used to update from 7290)

Thanks(now have the latest 7783 full version x64 exe installer for this
Win11 Pro laptop device).

On my other device(Win10 Pro desktop), I've been using the stand-alone
Home version(purchased at discount in 2022 Black Friday offer). Not
really not needing the Home features(incremental, restore different
hardware etc.). My full images are not very large(less than 40GB) - Home
or Free on any device and the time to create and validate(less than 20-30
min) is not significant. I also redundantly use Acronis True Image 2020
which has a 3 license perpetual - which is still faster on create,
restore and even small images.

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 by: Stan Brown - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 20:26 UTC

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:45:58 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
> >> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
> >> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
> >>
> >> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
> > and extract individual files from it?
> >
> > Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
> > to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
> > external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
> > then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
> > be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.
>
> Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
> my years-long installation of Macrium.

This was my first version of Macrium, installed on my then-new PC
when two years ago. And I needed the paid version because I do file
and folder backups on most of my partitions.

> And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
> whether you paid for it or not.

Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
knew the answer.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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 by: Ed Cryer - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18 UTC

Stan Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:45:58 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
>>>> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>>>>
>>>> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
>>>
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
>>> and extract individual files from it?
>>>
>>> Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
>>> to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
>>> external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
>>> then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
>>> be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.
>>
>> Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
>> my years-long installation of Macrium.
>
> This was my first version of Macrium, installed on my then-new PC
> when two years ago. And I needed the paid version because I do file
> and folder backups on most of my partitions.
>
>> And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
>> whether you paid for it or not.
>
> Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
> folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
> restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
> installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
> knew the answer.
>

I use only the free version; always have done.
I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win
Explorer.
Macrium Free can also create clones, but I get by without those.

I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
files and folders.

If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other
methods available.

Ed

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 by: Paul - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 23:47 UTC

On 12/8/2023 3:26 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:45:58 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:31:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> You can get Macrium Reflect FREE Edition 8.1.7784 here;
>>>> https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
>>>>
>>>> That is the latest (and probably last) free issue.
>>>
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> Can I use that one to mount a MR backup created by the paid version
>>> and extract individual files from it?
>>>
>>> Right now I have the paid version on one PC of my two, and if I need
>>> to recover an older version of a file onto the other, I attach the
>>> external backup drive to the MR-hosting PC, extract the file, and
>>> then transfer it on a USB stick. It would be a bit more convenient to
>>> be able to attach the backup drive directly to the other PC.
>>
>> Why did you pay? I got this latest update in the normal way, reminded by
>> my years-long installation of Macrium.
>
> This was my first version of Macrium, installed on my then-new PC
> when two years ago. And I needed the paid version because I do file
> and folder backups on most of my partitions.
>
>> And yes, it's the version number that determines compatability; not
>> whether you paid for it or not.
>
> Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
> folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
> restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
> installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
> knew the answer.
>

We can tell you what the Free version does, but we cannot tell
you how permutations of Free with Paid work :-)

The free supports imaging or cloning. No file/folder.
The imaging is Full or Differential (Incremental or Incremental-Forever are paid features).
You can mount an MRIMG like a hard drive. I can copy individual files from K: to C: ,
where K: is the letter I selected for a Macrium mount of a backup. At the end of
a copying session, I can go to File Explorer and select an option to dismount
my Macrium letter K: .

One of the ticky boxes Macrium has is "remove permission restrictions". This means,
if you make a Macrium backup, not only do you get all the files, you also get
to "look in places you could not normally look". It is at this point,
that you start discovering the things that Macrium is not backing up.
Obviously, backing up a Shadow in System Volume Information, is verboten.
And backing up Windows.edb or Windows.db for Federated Search, that won't
quiesce at backup time, so they don't bother backing up a busted file
that would result. I would also not expect to find a pagefile.sys in
a backup (nothing of value lost). They could probably back up a hiberfile,
but again, that's wasteful if they're doing that.

Doing "hot" backups of files/folders, is how a Macrium file/folder OP
would differ from say, XXCOPY or such. Most of the simple copying routines,
will not be using VSS to "freeze" a copy of dynamic files.

A Full Image can also be converted to a VHD file, for virtual machine use.
7-ZIP tool, can also read files from a VHD. The dead-end format VHDX that
Hyper-V uses, no tools seem to interact with that, and that is probably
why Img2VHD was discontinued, as making a Img2VHDX would be a waste of
everyones time. 7ZIP can't read a VHDX either.

IMG2VHD stopped perhaps in V6, but it can still convert a Full MRIMG
from V7 to a VHD. I have not matrix tested all the output options
of Macrium, to see which ones can be converted to VHD.

Paul

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 by: Stan Brown - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 19:32 UTC

On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18:04 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
> > folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
> > restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
> > installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
> > knew the answer.
>
> I use only the free version; always have done.
> I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
> off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
> virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win
> Explorer.

Thanks, Ed; that's just what I wanted to know.
> I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
> used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
> files and folders.

Why don't I do that? Because my E: partition (10 GB) contains a 2 GB
container managed by VeraCrypt, where financial and medical records
live. If I did a full image backup of E:, then every time I did a
differential backup those 2 GB would get backed up again, even though
only a couple of hundred KB were actually new.

If I remember right, MR won't actually do full image backups on
VeraCrypt partitions, even if I have VeraCrypt running to decode
them. I'm not 100% certain of that, but I think I tried it when I
first installed MR and it didn't work. I can't think of another
reason I would have done file and folder backup on them. In any case,
file and folder backup does work on such partitions. Of course the
backup doesn't have the original Veracrypt password, but it does have
a strong password that I use for backups.

> If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other
> methods available.

It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
backing up everything _except_ one particular file.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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In article <l231nip1u8849dfq7e61ic1ak9p20gq4q8@4ax.com>,
Ken@invalid.news.com says...
>
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 16:36:04 -0500, "jason_warren@ieee.org"
> <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >I can no longer find the Macrium website. Is it gone?
>
>
> Out of curiosity I just did a search on Macrium in the latest version
> of FireFox running under the latest version of Windows 11
> Professional. No problem here.

It worked in another computer using Firefox. I suspect one
of the ad- or link-blockers rejected the link for some
reason.

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 by: Brian Gregory - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 02:20 UTC

As I understand it:

v8.1.7784 is home version with free demo,
v8.0.7279 is last free version.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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 by: Paul - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 04:23 UTC

On 12/9/2023 2:32 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:18:04 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>> Are you sure about that? The free version won't create file and
>>> folder backups, only image backups, so I was asking whether it will
>>> restore individual files or folders. Of course I can download the
>>> installer and try it, but that's kind of a pain and I was hoping you
>>> knew the answer.
>>
>> I use only the free version; always have done.
>> I take a full image of my SSD regularly. And from that image I can pick
>> off individual files or folders. Macrium can mount the image as a
>> virtual drive; and that gives me access to all its contents through Win
>> Explorer.
>
> Thanks, Ed; that's just what I wanted to know.
>
>> I advise you to do the same. Take a regular full image. And that can be
>> used for either a full restore of the drive, or to pick off individual
>> files and folders.
>
> Why don't I do that? Because my E: partition (10 GB) contains a 2 GB
> container managed by VeraCrypt, where financial and medical records
> live. If I did a full image backup of E:, then every time I did a
> differential backup those 2 GB would get backed up again, even though
> only a couple of hundred KB were actually new.
>
> If I remember right, MR won't actually do full image backups on
> VeraCrypt partitions, even if I have VeraCrypt running to decode
> them. I'm not 100% certain of that, but I think I tried it when I
> first installed MR and it didn't work. I can't think of another
> reason I would have done file and folder backup on them. In any case,
> file and folder backup does work on such partitions. Of course the
> backup doesn't have the original Veracrypt password, but it does have
> a strong password that I use for backups.
>
>> If you want regular saves of specific files or folders, there are other
>> methods available.
>
> It's not a matter of backing up specified files or folders, but of
> backing up everything _except_ one particular file.
>

There is a capability for this, but it relies on a feature of VSS
and so is not necessarily perfectly under the control of Macrium.
It may have trouble excluding a hundred thousand folders for example,
because the operation (at VSS level), has to complete in ten seconds
or less (the quiescence response period). After everything is
quiet on a partition snapshot, then the snapshot is "cast in stone"
for the remainder of the attempted disk imaging. They're not
backing up your partition, they are backing up a VSS snapshot
of your partition. That's why the real partition can change,
while the backup runs on a "hot" system, and you still get a
perfect copy of the snapshot of the partition.

https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/How+to+exclude+files+from+a+Disk+Image

If you only need to remove one item, there is a good chance it would
work, during a full partition image operation.

But if you were enumerating half of the tiny folders in WinSxS,
the exclusion step being done by VSS, may fail to complete, and
things you didn't want backed up, would be getting backed up anyway.

It still raises the question, of how a File/Folder backup would work,
because you really want VSS to be carrying those out for you too. The
objective is to get complete snapshots of files ("intact" files), and
not bits of files some older bits, and some newer bits that
just got saved in Microsoft Word. Not only is VSS a snapshot, the
ten second period tries to get entities in the machine to release
control long enough so any files they were working on, are either
completely in their old state or completely in their new state.
It's like shooting 16mm movie film, where one of the frames
happens to not be blurred, not even a little bit.

The Search Indexer, if it was updating Windows.edb , apparently
it won't release for VSS to get a consistent snapshot
of the file. This does not hurt anything, whatever happens
to that file, because on a restore, I notice it starts regenerating
that file all over again, when the restored OS boots for the first
time. Either the file is not backed up at all, or, some aspect
of the file condition flags it is corrupt or unusable or should not
be used.

If you wanted perfect copies of stuff, then if the partition is
"at rest", such as a backup from the Macrium Rescue CD, then VSS
issues no longer matter. (VSS is not available, is not used, is
not needed, in a Rescue CD session.) But seeing as the above article
is using Registry for control of this, that might not propagate to a
Rescue CD session.

*******

Obviously, if this was implemented on "their side" of the backup
operation (let VSS capture everything, then remove exclusion blocks
manually), they could implement it themselves, and have all the time
in the world, to carve it out.

The fact you can restore a partition, into a smaller space than the
original image (the image restore behaves like it was being done on
a file-by-file bases and it rebuilds the $MFT), tells you the handling
of partition images, isn't quite as inflexible as they let on. They
can implement pretty fancy features, when they put their mind to it.

Paul

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Subject: Re: Is Macrium gone?
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2023 21:35:56 -0700
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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 04:35 UTC

Brian Gregory wrote on 12/9/23 7:20 PM:
> As I understand it:
>
> v8.1.7784 is home version with free demo,
> v8.0.7279 is last free version.
> Iirc, using the feature/option within the Macrium Reflect free version
program:
- 7279 after 7690 free update version was released will update to 7690
- 7690 after 7783 free update version was released will update to 7783
I suspect, if the current installed version is 7290, it would update to 7783.

If choosing a different path than updating via the program the full
installer version of 7690 and 7783 are available.

Additional info for each of the full version installers
7279 has a digital signature of January 10, 2023
7690 has a digital signature of October 11, 2023
7783 has a digital signature of November 30, 2023

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