In message <KfpLN.556745$PuZ9.307129@fx11.iad>, Mark Lloyd
<not.email@all.invalid> writes
>[snip]
>
>I don't top-post, although I do see much worse. Especially posting at
>the bottom of a really long quote you failed to snip.
>
Agreed.
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

wasbit,

>> Though I recently saw someone put his two sentences of reply smack in
>> the middle of the whole post.
>
> Which I sometimes do to reply to a specific point.

In that case I remove everything under it, as well as everything above it
that is not directly related to the specific point.

> However I always try to put a line space above & below so it shows
> more easily.

Yes, thats another thing I've recently noticed. The reply placed smack
against the quote, making it look as if its a single paragraph - with only
the quote prefixes to figure out what is what. :-(

Maybeishouldthanjustreplywithoutspacesandseehowtheylikethat. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

wasbit wrote:
> On 21/03/2024 19:35, sticks wrote:
>> Have you tried running your mouse over and highlighting the portion of
>> a post you wish to respond to?  Doing so and hitting followup opens a
>> response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.
>
> Thanks. Nice tip.
>
>
Excellent tip.
I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name> wrote.
Ed

Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > Almost as bad as top-posters.
>
> I don't top-post, although I do see much worse. Especially posting at
> the bottom of a really long quote you failed to snip.

Yes, it's quite ironic, in a sad way, that it's also happening, by
multiple posters, in this very thread. Boggles the mind.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:18:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
wrote:

>[snip]
>
>> You know what I dislike ? Those people who "quote" the whole previous
>> message just to add a line or two at the top or bottom. Blergh.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rudy Wieser
>
>Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to

No, you don't "have to." You can just ignore such a post, as I do.

>scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
>if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> wasbit wrote:
>> On 21/03/2024 19:35, sticks wrote:
>>> Have you tried running your mouse over and highlighting the portion
>>> of a post you wish to respond to?  Doing so and hitting followup
>>> opens a response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.
>>
>> Thanks. Nice tip.
>>
>>
>
> Excellent tip.
> I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name> wrote.

In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only adds
the last level of attribution in the quoted text. This is fine if you
only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is necessary to name
everyone involved in the post. Some people don't like that. However,
you can add the additional posters by also holding the control key, (on
TBird at least) and swiping left to right highlighting the additional
posters. Just keep control down until you have everything you want
highlighted, then click followup. You can also highlight multiple areas
of a post, though you have to be careful as it can sometimes look a
little off in location on the followup post. Experiment a little and
you'll see what I mean.

--
Stand With Israel!

Ken

|On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:18:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
|wrote:
| |>[snip]
|>
|>> You know what I dislike ? Those people who "quote" the whole previous
|>> message just to add a line or two at the top or bottom. Blergh.
|>>
|>> Regards,
|>> Rudy Wieser
|>
|>Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to
| |No, you don't "have to." You can just ignore such a post, as I do.
| |
|>scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
|>if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

Thank you for providing this prime example to how /not/ to quote.

.... in a thread talking about how to do it right.

As for your reply ? How would the Mark know its "such a post" if he didn't
open and checked it for new content ? At which time any attempt to "just
ignore it" would ofcourse be 'very hard' (understatement) to do.

And for the record : we are talking about /having to deal/ with posts
containing badly quoted material - before deciding to actually read them.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

sticks wrote:
> On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> wasbit wrote:
>>> On 21/03/2024 19:35, sticks wrote:
>>>> Have you tried running your mouse over and highlighting the portion
>>>> of a post you wish to respond to?  Doing so and hitting followup
>>>> opens a response with only the portion you have highlighted in it.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Nice tip.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Excellent tip.
>> I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name> wrote.
>
> In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
> One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only adds
> the last level of attribution in the quoted text.  This is fine if you
> only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is necessary to name
> everyone involved in the post.  Some people don't like that.  However,
> you can add the additional posters by also holding the control key, (on
> TBird at least) and swiping left to right highlighting the additional
> posters.  Just keep control down until you have everything you want
> highlighted, then click followup.  You can also highlight multiple areas
> of a post, though you have to be careful as it can sometimes look a
> little off in location on the followup post.  Experiment a little and
> you'll see what I mean.
>
>
How do you carry out "swiping left to right highlighting the additional
posters"?
Ed

On 3/23/2024 2:01 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> sticks wrote:
>> On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>
>>> Excellent tip.
>>> I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name>
>>> wrote.
>>
>> In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
>> One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only
>> adds the last level of attribution in the quoted text.  This is fine
>> if you only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is
>> necessary to name everyone involved in the post.  Some people don't
>> like that.  However, you can add the additional posters by also
>> holding the control key, (on TBird at least) and swiping left to right
>> highlighting the additional posters.  Just keep control down until you
>> have everything you want highlighted, then click followup.  You can
>> also highlight multiple areas of a post, though you have to be careful
>> as it can sometimes look a little off in location on the followup
>> post.  Experiment a little and you'll see what I mean.
>>
>>
>
> How do you carry out "swiping left to right highlighting the additional
> posters"?

So in this post, I first highlighted from "Excellent tip." down to your
question. It included material from sticks, and then Ed above that, as
well as your question. I then held down the control key and swiped
those two attribution lines. Everything I had highlighted was included
in the followup, after it first inserted the top attribution line naming
you.

--
Stand With Israel!

On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:50:19 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

> Is there any available add-on to do this? I notice that some people
> regularly have <snipped> in their offerings, which suggests to me
> software-snipped; at least when you compare them to my snippings, which
> are crude, bad PR and leave me feeling guilty and antisocial.

Select text > Follow-up and Agent snips all text but the selection.

--
s|b

sticks wrote:
> On 3/23/2024 2:01 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> sticks wrote:
>>> On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Excellent tip.
>>>> I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name>
>>>> wrote.
>>>
>>> In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
>>> One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only
>>> adds the last level of attribution in the quoted text.  This is fine
>>> if you only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is
>>> necessary to name everyone involved in the post.  Some people don't
>>> like that.  However, you can add the additional posters by also
>>> holding the control key, (on TBird at least) and swiping left to
>>> right highlighting the additional posters.  Just keep control down
>>> until you have everything you want highlighted, then click followup.
>>> You can also highlight multiple areas of a post, though you have to
>>> be careful as it can sometimes look a little off in location on the
>>> followup post.  Experiment a little and you'll see what I mean.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> How do you carry out "swiping left to right highlighting the
>> additional posters"?
>
> So in this post, I first highlighted from "Excellent tip." down to your
> question.  It included material from sticks, and then Ed above that, as
> well as your question.  I then held down the control key and swiped
> those two attribution lines.  Everything I had highlighted was included
> in the followup, after it first inserted the top attribution line naming
> you.
>
Cool! I love it.
I feel there's probably even more hidden in that lost city of options.
You tell me to experiment, but you've probably already been there.
Are there other useful ploys?
Ed

On 3/24/2024 6:21 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> sticks wrote:
>> On 3/23/2024 2:01 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> sticks wrote:
>>>> On 3/23/2024 6:20 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent tip.
>>>>> I notice that it also adds a starter line for you; <person's name>
>>>>> wrote.
>>>>
>>>> In case you haven't discovered it yet, I'll add this.
>>>> One of the things people might not like about doing this is it only
>>>> adds the last level of attribution in the quoted text.  This is fine
>>>> if you only are responding to one person, or don't feel it is
>>>> necessary to name everyone involved in the post.  Some people don't
>>>> like that.  However, you can add the additional posters by also
>>>> holding the control key, (on TBird at least) and swiping left to
>>>> right highlighting the additional posters.  Just keep control down
>>>> until you have everything you want highlighted, then click followup.
>>>> You can also highlight multiple areas of a post, though you have to
>>>> be careful as it can sometimes look a little off in location on the
>>>> followup post.  Experiment a little and you'll see what I mean.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> How do you carry out "swiping left to right highlighting the
>>> additional posters"?
>>
>> So in this post, I first highlighted from "Excellent tip." down to
>> your question.  It included material from sticks, and then Ed above
>> that, as well as your question.  I then held down the control key and
>> swiped those two attribution lines.  Everything I had highlighted was
>> included in the followup, after it first inserted the top attribution
>> line naming you.
>>
>
> Cool! I love it.
> I feel there's probably even more hidden in that lost city of options.
> You tell me to experiment, but you've probably already been there.
> Are there other useful ploys?
>
> Ed
>

Not really. It was really a suggestion to be cautious and try it out a
little without actually sending. You'll probably notice it has a little
difficulty sometimes getting proper quote levels, and sometimes
inserting what should be new lines at the end of others.

FWIW, I mostly followup with an entire article and then trim, but on
very large posts I find this method easier if I only want to quote the
very end of the article. I don't use it all the time.

--
Stand With Israel!

On 3/23/24 05:12, R.Wieser wrote:

[snip]

>> However I always try to put a line space above & below so it shows
>> more easily.
>
> Yes, thats another thing I've recently noticed. The reply placed smack
> against the quote, making it look as if its a single paragraph - with only
> the quote prefixes to figure out what is what. :-(

Also, if you snip part of a line, you may need to re-create the quote
prefix to make it right.

> Maybeishouldthanjustreplywithoutspacesandseehowtheylikethat. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The wind is like the air, only pushier."

On 3/23/24 09:58, Ken Blake wrote:

[snip]

>> Yes. Its worse when they put those lines at the bottom. Then you have to
>
> No, you don't "have to." You can just ignore such a post, as I do.

Its "have to" only if you really want to read it. I usually decide its
not that worthwhile.

>> scroll through multiple screens of stuff you've already read to find out
>> if there's ANYTHING new in this post.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The wind is like the air, only pushier."