=?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?= <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Boris wrote on 12/16/23 9:18 PM:
>> =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?= <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:ullncl$2oo6v$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Boris wrote on 12/16/23 5:33 PM:
>>>> =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?= <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> in news:uli2gn$2089t$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> Boris wrote on 12/14/23 9:54 PM:
>>>>>> I've been trying to solve 100% disk usage on this machine for a
>>>>>> while, now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dell Inspiron 5559
>>>>>> Windows 10 HP x64, OEM installed, fully updated, 22H2, 5/18/2016
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes at least 15 minutes to settle down and become useful
>>>>>> after a clean boot, and takes about 5 minutes to shutdown. Once
>>>>>> up and running, it takes around a minute or so for a program to
>>>>>> launch after clicked upon. If I want to open a picture, for
>>>>>> instance, the program (i.e. Photos, Photo Gallery) takes about a
>>>>>> minute to open. Same with FireFox. After they are first launched,
>>>>>> the respond normally for the rest of my session.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a minimal amount of programs that launch at startup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethernet send/receive are almost non-existent at startup. Memory
>>>>>> and CPU seem low.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried many suggested fixes months ago, with no luck. Before I
>>>>>> do somthing more drastic that requires re-installation of the OS
>>>>>> and updates or all programs, I thougt I'd try again to see what
>>>>>> else I could find that may fix this problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.kapilarya.com/fix-windows-10-100-percent-disk-usage-pr
>>>>>> ob le m
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it turns out my system doesn't include IDE ATA/ATAPI
>>>>>> controllers, it only contains Standard SATA AHCI Controller.
>>>>>> Nonetheless, burrowing down shows nothing similar to what's
>>>>>> shown. Neither does the registry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next, going to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/100-disk-usa
>>>>>> ge -o n- windows-10/17e3aa7e-4a2a-4927-97bd-bdb2f7dbe04b
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sfc /scannow found "Windows Resource Protection found corrupt
>>>>>> files and successfully repaired them. For online repairs,
>>>>>> details are included in the CBS log file located at
>>>>>> windir\logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example C:
>>>>>> \Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For offline repairs, details are
>>>>>> included in the log fimle provided by the /OFFLOGFILE flag."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Per the instructions, I next ran:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Response was, "No component store corruption was found.
>>>>>> The operation completed successfully."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Per instructions, I next ran:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Response was, ""No component store corruption was found.
>>>>>> The operation completed successfully."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was about to run the next suggested command, "dism /online
>>>>>> /cleanup- image /restorehealth"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, I first researched the difference between checkhealth and
>>>>>> scanhealth, and it seemed to me that checkhealth was not needed
>>>>>> as checkhealth finds 'repairable' files, while scanhealth checks
>>>>>> and fixes corrupt files. Is checkhealth really needed? Or is it
>>>>>> needed because it identifies corrupt files, and places them
>>>>>> somewhere where they can be acted upon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I'm going to continue on with the rest of the suggested
>>>>>> plan to 'fix' this 100% disk usage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, if you have any other suggestions as how to diagnose/fix
>>>>>> 100% disk usage, that would be appreciated. I just don't want to
>>>>>> have to re- install the OS. Main reason...I may have to get a
>>>>>> MSFT account to do so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Might be worth it to:
>>>>> a. include actual device specs(fyi one of the the Dell 5559 models
>>>>> released/built/shipped was 4GB RAM with 1 TB HD, i5 Intel chip).
>>>>> Note: The i5 would normally be sufficient for Win10.
>>>>> b.Create a new Local Windows account with admin rights, then
>>>>> retest opening programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> With respect to Scanhealth, Checkhealth
>>>>> - Neither 'fix' anything, only providing a status of the
>>>>> existing
>>>>> image. The former only checks for corruption of the Windows image,
>>>>> the latter also diagnostic, performs a more advanced scan to
>>>>> determine if the image has an issue worthy of being repaired.
>>>>> => Unlike the DISM's RestoreHealth which repairs a image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Design intent is to run these three DISM commands in order
>>>>> ScanHealth, Checkhealth and RestoreHealth
>>>>> The latter is usually and only necessary when the first two report
>>>>> a need to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other DISM commands are available
>>>>> DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
>>>>> DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
>>>>>
>>>>> The first is diagnostic related(just reports, no fixing), the
>>>>> latter cleans up the component store.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ran the last DISM command in the instructions, RestoreHealth, and
>>>> rebooted. No change, still slow to boot and settle down.
>>>>
>>>> Still following the instructions, I checked for updates, and there
>>>> were two Security Intelligence Updates for Microsoft Defender
>>>> Antivirus. Both installed successfully.
>>>>
>>>> Restart, and disable Microsoft Defender. suggested by VanguardLH.
>>>> No change
>>>>
>>>> Next, I hid all Microsoft services, disabled the rest, and
>>>> rebooted. There was a significant reduction in load up time, which
>>>> included the painting of all desktop and task bar icons. And, disk
>>>> activity settled down to 0 to 10 percent activity noticeably
>>>> quicker. (Occassionally, it went up to 20 to 30 percent. I guess
>>>> that's what Paul talks about, Windows is always doing something.)
>>>>
>>>> But, Programs still take a long time to start up when first
>>>> launched.
>>>>
>>>> I've started on Paul's suggestions, but I think I'll first
>>>> re-enable all programs in the System Configurations Startup tab.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Run in an Admin Command or Powershell window
>>>
>>> DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
>>>
>>> - the above will report the status of the component store, and
>>> may show
>>> that a cleanup of the store is necessary. Disregard that info and
>>> run the following:
>>>
>>> DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
>>>
>>>
>>> Fyi...it would still be worthwhile to create another Local Windows
>>> logon account(in an existing admin account), them configure the new
>>> account as an admin account. Ensure you remember the password when
>>> creating the new account(its only temporary, and can be removed
>>> later). Logon to the new account to finish setup or the user profile
>>> for that new logon, and test loading/opening programs.
>>> - if you notice a significant difference, report the results...if
>>> you
>>> don't see a difference in the new logon profile, its unlikely there
>>> is a profile issue(i.e. your condition is something else, and
>>> possibly not even Windows related).
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I had planned to create another Local Windows logon...just
>> hadn't gotten to it yet.
>>
>> When I go to Settings>Accounts>Your info, I see
>> My Name
>> Local Account
>> Administrator
>>
>> I don't see anywhere there to create another Local Windows logon.
>>
>> I suspect there's another "real, top level" Administrator account,
>> but I don't know how to get there. Is that where you are suggesting
>> to create another Local Windows logon?
>>
>> Sorry for so many simple questions.
>>
> Account creation for a Local account can be done by navigation from
> multiple places from an existing Admin account
> 'Control Panel/User Accounts/Manage Accounts/Add new user in PC
> Settings' or
> Go/Navigate to the same location to add an account
> Settings/Accounts/Other Users/Add Account
> - Select/Click 'I dont have this persons sign in information'
> - Select/Click 'Add a user without a Microsoft account'
> => Enter Username and Password
> Once the account is created go back to Accounts/User Accounts, select
> the new account and use the 'Change account' option to change it to an
> admin account.
> Logoff the current admin account that created the account, restart and
> select the new Local admin account. enter the password...Windows will
> fnish creating the logon account, issue a Welcome or similar command
> while it's building the folder structure and finally display the
> desktop for the new account.
> => At that point you can then navigate to different installed
> programs
> and see if the new account makes a difference in time to open
> programs, Disk usage %, CPU usage, etc.
> - i.e. what you are doing is comparing one account's vs the
> possible
> problem account.
>

Thanks for the instructions.

Looks like no matter what identity (account profile) I use, results are
the same. Sloooooow.

I created another local administrator account, "Tester". So now I have
two local administrator accounts. Tester was excrutiatingly slow to load
the OS and eventually paint the desktop. Tester did not have all
programs that Boris had, but all those that I tried on Tester acted that
same as if I'd launched them from Boris's account...slow to launch.
Also, the disk drive took so long to settle down from 100%, that I gave
up.