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* 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sn!pe
+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Snidely
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+- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Athel Cornish-Bowden
+- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Hibou
|+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'HVS
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|||+- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Chris Elvidge
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||||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Phil Carmody
|||| +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
|||| `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'jerryfriedman
||||  `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Bertel Lund Hansen
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||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Athel Cornish-Bowden
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|||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'musika
||| +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Athel Cornish-Bowden
||| `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Snidely
||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Adam Funk
|||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Ken Blake
||| +* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'jerryfriedman
||| |`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Mark Brader
||| | `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sam Plusnet
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||| |    +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
||| |    `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'lar3ryca
||| |     `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Adam Funk
||| `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
||+- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Ken Blake
||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'occam
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||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'lar3ryca
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|||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
||| `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'occam
|||  +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
|||  `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Snidely
||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
|||`- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'occam
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||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Phil Carmody
|| +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Athel Cornish-Bowden
|| `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Adam Funk
||  `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sn!pe
||   +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Kerr-Mudd, John
||   +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'lar3ryca
||   `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Adam Funk
|+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'JNugent
||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sn!pe
|| `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'lar3ryca
||  `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'charles
|+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sam Plusnet
||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Hibou
|||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Janet
||||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
|||||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Blueshirt
||||| +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sam Plusnet
||||| `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
||||+- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Bertel Lund Hansen
||||+* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'charles
|||||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Mark Brader
||||| `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'charles
|||||  `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Mark Brader
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|||||   |`- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Mark Brader
|||||   `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Tony Cooper
|||||    `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
|||||     `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'lar3ryca
||||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Hibou
|||| `* Dustwomen (was: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora')Stefan Ram
||||  +* Re: DustwomenStefan Ram
||||  |+- Re: DustwomenHibou
||||  |`- Re: DustwomenPeter Moylan
||||  `* Re: DustwomenSn!pe
||||   +- Re: DustwomenStefan Ram
||||   `* Re: DustwomenAthel Cornish-Bowden
||||    `* Re: DustwomenMark Brader
||||     `- Re: DustwomenAthel Cornish-Bowden
|||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'lar3ryca
||| `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Janet
||`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Peter Moylan
|| +* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Hibou
|| |`- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Hibou
|| `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sam Plusnet
||  `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Sn!pe
|`- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Mike Spencer
`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Ken Blake
 +* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'jerryfriedman
 |`* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Bertel Lund Hansen
 | `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'jerryfriedman
 |  `- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Athel Cornish-Bowden
 +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Bertel Lund Hansen
 +- Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Adam Funk
 `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Athel Cornish-Bowden
  `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Bertel Lund Hansen
   `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Paul Wolff
    `* Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'Adam Funk

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Re: 'Forums' vs. 'Fora'

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 by: Adam Funk - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:31 UTC

On 2024-03-26, Sn!pe wrote:

> Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the plural "labia" is well-known, however.
>
> Is that the genitive?

badoompah

"In Latin, she would be called Babia Majora."

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From: jerry.friedman99@gmail.com (jerryfriedman)
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 by: jerryfriedman - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:36 UTC

Phil Carmody wrote:

> HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> writes:
>> FWIW, a plural that I consciously switched to in the last couple of
>> decades is "memorandums". Although I liked "memoranda", I felt that
>> the word is sufficiently naturalised that it was time to use the
>> plural formed as one usually does for English words.

> I would say that the -a ending is sufficiently naturalised, and that one
> usually pluralises -um words -a. Even the sheep and the oxen are smart
> enough to see that the simple rule you think exists doesn't.

Harvey's "usually" doesn't sound to me like a simple rule refuted by
"sheep" and "oxen".

And who is the "one" who usually pluralizes -um words (from Latin or
Latinized Greek) -a?
Not the people who publish British books.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=football+stadiums%2C+football+stadia&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-GB-2019&smoothing=3

(I added "football" to get rid of the Greek unit of measure. I was
surprised at how much difference it made.)

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=forums%2Cfora&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-GB-2019&smoothing=3

(but "auditoria" was ahead for a long time recently)

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=forums%2Cfora&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-GB-2019&smoothing=3

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=chrysanthemums%2Cchrysanthema&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-GB-2019&smoothing=3

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=antirrhinums%2Cantirrhina%2Csnapdragons&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-GB-2019&smoothing=3

For one on the other side,

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=memorandums%2Cmemoranda&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-GB-2019&smoothing=3

--
Jerry Friedman

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 by: Bertel Lund Hansen - Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:56 UTC

jerryfriedman wrote:

> https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=forums%2Cfora&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-GB-2019&smoothing=3

Try with "fora *" (alone) to see how many false hits you get.

Hint: fora long time ...

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