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Re: AFCON 2023(4) [R]

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Subject: Re: AFCON 2023(4) [R]
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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 18:56 UTC

VAR to Egypt’s rescue? Penalty awarded in injury time for a high tackle, although as far as I could see both plays went in high and took each other out.

Re: AFCON 2023(4) [R]

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 18:58 UTC

Salah’s penalty hits the post but bounces in to make it 2-2.

Lucky Egypt, thst didn’t look a penalty to me.

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 19:05 UTC

Injustica!

FT: Egypt 2 - Mozambique 2

Mozambique can hold their heads high, they were only minutes from their first AFCON win, and against the most successful AFCON team too.

Egypt lucky but have still given Ghana a great chance to take the lead in Group B tonight.

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 20:01 UTC

The Black Stars of Ghana are about to take on the Blue Sharks of Cape Verde. The stadium looks a little fuller for the second part of this Group B double header.

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 20:20 UTC

It’s been all Cape Verde so far and they’re rewarded with a goal on 16 minutes when the keeper parried Cabrao’s shot into the path of Montero for a comfortable finish! The Blue Sharks are 1-0 up!

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 20:42 UTC

Ghana looked to have equalised with a shot outside the area but VAR says there was a Ghana player in the box impeding the keeper’s view - no goal!

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 20:51 UTC

HT: Ghana 0 - Cape Verde 1

RM

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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:19 UTC

On 2024-01-14, Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-01-14 1:18 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:
>> Quembo has the ball crossed to him from the right and heads powerfully
>> into the net! 1-1 57 minutes!
>>
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>> RM
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> Whaaat EGY 1 - 2 Moz?

Mozambique has Ratifo, of 1. CfR Pforzheim in Oberliga
Baden-Württemberg, up front. Who does Egypt have?

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:18 UTC

59 minutes Djiku heads in a free kick to equalise.

Ghana 1 - Cape Verde 1

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:30 UTC

Cape Verde bring on former Galatasaray and current Ankaragücü winger Garry Rodrigues- can he make the difference?

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:34 UTC

72 minutes, Garry Rodrigues crosses, Bebe shoots.........Djiku clears off the line! So close for Cape Verde!

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:45 UTC

In the last 10 minutes it’s Cape Verde knocking on Ghana’s door! This would be a great opportunity to take the lead in Group B over Egypt - can they make the breakthrough?

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:50 UTC

89 minutes Garry Rodrigues through one on one but the Ghana keeper parries his shot away! So close!

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:55 UTC

The Blue Sharks bite in injury time! Ghana make a mess of clearing the ball from their area and it falls to Garry Rodrigues for a simple tap in! Ghana 1 - Cape Verde 2! The Cape Verde players celebrate by climbing the stairs of the stand as if they have just won the FA Cup!

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:04 UTC

It’s over! We’ve seen the first shock result of the tournament as Cape Verde beat Ghana 2-1. Cape Verde now lead Group B!

This was a double header played at the same stadium, Egypt- Mozambique was pretty deserted but travelling fans from both sides seemed to fill out the stands a bit more for this one.

RM

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 by: Werner Pichler - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:12 UTC

Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:
> Real_Mardin wrote:
>
>> Except every AFCON I remember watching of late
>> has been mainly played to largely empty stadiums
>> as they price ticket prices so high as to effectively
>> shut locals out from paying to attend any game
>> not involving the host nation, so perhaps not.
>> Let's hope the ticket prices suit local wallets
>> better this time.
>
> For the group stages the cheapest ticket is 5000
> FCFA (up from 3000 in 2022) but the most
> expensive ticket is 15000 FCA (down from 20000).
> Hard to find a lot of information about the average
> salary in Ivory Coast but from what I can find online
> and doing some admittedly rough calculations the
> cheapest ticket would appear to be many more
> times the average daily wage.
>
> Or to look at it another way: the cheapest ticket is
> equivalent to $8 in a country where 11% of people
> live off less than $2.15 per day and 75.6% live off
> less than $6.85 per day.
>
> I think this points to a lot of empty stadiums in the
> matches not involving Ivory Coast? Perhaps some
> neighbouring nations like Ghana, Guinea, Mali and
> Burkina Faso might take enough travelling support
> to make the ground fuller, as might a continental
> power house like Egypt?

I’m sorry, but in a stadium that has seen two fatal
crowd crushes in the last 15 years, and just two years
after eight people have been trampled to death at the same competition, I
cannot help but be rather
relieved to see the stands less than packed.

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Real_Mardin - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 11:04 UTC

Werner Pichler wrote:

> Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:
>> Real_Mardin wrote:
>>
>>> Except every AFCON I remember watching of late
>>> has been mainly played to largely empty stadiums
>>> as they price ticket prices so high as to effectively
>>> shut locals out from paying to attend any game
>>> not involving the host nation, so perhaps not.
>>> Let's hope the ticket prices suit local wallets
>>> better this time.
>>
>> For the group stages the cheapest ticket is 5000
>> FCFA (up from 3000 in 2022) but the most
>> expensive ticket is 15000 FCA (down from 20000).
>> Hard to find a lot of information about the average
>> salary in Ivory Coast but from what I can find online
>> and doing some admittedly rough calculations the
>> cheapest ticket would appear to be many more
>> times the average daily wage.
>>
>> Or to look at it another way: the cheapest ticket is
>> equivalent to $8 in a country where 11% of people
>> live off less than $2.15 per day and 75.6% live off
>> less than $6.85 per day.
>>
>> I think this points to a lot of empty stadiums in the
>> matches not involving Ivory Coast? Perhaps some
>> neighbouring nations like Ghana, Guinea, Mali and
>> Burkina Faso might take enough travelling support
>> to make the ground fuller, as might a continental
>> power house like Egypt?

> I’m sorry, but in a stadium that has seen two fatal
> crowd crushes in the last 15 years, and just two years
> after eight people have been trampled to death at the same competition, I
> cannot help but be rather
> relieved to see the stands less than packed.

> Ciao,
> Werner

Ouch.

RM

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 by: Real_Mardin - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 14:03 UTC

Welcome to the Charles Konan Banny Stadium in Yamoussoukro for an AFCON 2023(4) Group C double header! First up we have Senegal v The Gambia and those of you who don’t like to see CAF grounds overcrowded will be delighted to hear the newly built 20000 capacity stadium is largely empty!

RM

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Senegal take the lead after 3 minutes after the pass the ball around in the box and Gueye shoots low past the keeper!

RM

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 by: Ion Saliu - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 14:24 UTC

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 3:11:04 PM UTC+2, Real_Mardin wrote:
> The 2023 Africa Cup of Nations starts today in the year 2024 as it was postponed due to adverse summer flooding in the host nation Ivory Coast.
>
> The opening match is tonight at 8pm GMT (9pm CET, 3pm EST) when Ivory Coast take on Guinea-Bissau in the 60000 capacity Alassane Ouattara Stadium (also known as the Olympic Stadium of Epimbe).
>
> The AFCON, more than any other international tournament I can think of, feels like it should be granted the REAL FOOTBALL seal of approval. Closely fought matches between teams usually not blessed with super star players, fans in the stadium playing traditional music and beating drums, stadiums with running tracks around them which give a sort of 70's to 90's World Cup retro appeal.
>
> Except every AFCON I remember watching of late has been mainly played to largely empty stadiums as they price ticket prices so high as to effectively shut locals out from paying to attend any game not involving the host nation, so perhaps not. Let's hope the ticket prices suit local wallets better this time.
>
> Let's use this thread for match reports and scores.
>
> Happy AFCON, everyone!
>
>
> RM

Africa Cup of Nations will become the best competition in the world of sports. Maybe in a decade. I’m watching Senegal v Gambia. 1-0 Sadio Mané. Plenty of stars from European top championships (some in Saudi Arabia now… for huge money!)

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Subject: Re: AFCON 2023(4) [R]
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 by: Ion Saliu - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 14:26 UTC

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 3:11:04 PM UTC+2, Real_Mardin wrote:
> The 2023 Africa Cup of Nations starts today in the year 2024 as it was postponed due to adverse summer flooding in the host nation Ivory Coast.
>
> The opening match is tonight at 8pm GMT (9pm CET, 3pm EST) when Ivory Coast take on Guinea-Bissau in the 60000 capacity Alassane Ouattara Stadium (also known as the Olympic Stadium of Epimbe).
>
> The AFCON, more than any other international tournament I can think of, feels like it should be granted the REAL FOOTBALL seal of approval. Closely fought matches between teams usually not blessed with super star players, fans in the stadium playing traditional music and beating drums, stadiums with running tracks around them which give a sort of 70's to 90's World Cup retro appeal.
>
> Except every AFCON I remember watching of late has been mainly played to largely empty stadiums as they price ticket prices so high as to effectively shut locals out from paying to attend any game not involving the host nation, so perhaps not. Let's hope the ticket prices suit local wallets better this time.
>
> Let's use this thread for match reports and scores.
>
> Happy AFCON, everyone!
>
>
> RM

Africa Cup of Nations will become the best competition in the world of football (soccer). Maybe in a decade. I’m watching Senegal v Gambia. 1-0 Sadio Mané. Plenty of stars from European top championships (some in Saudi Arabia now… for huge money!)

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Subject: Re: AFCON 2023(4) [R]
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 by: Ion Saliu - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 14:48 UTC

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:26:43 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 3:11:04 PM UTC+2, Real_Mardin wrote:
> > The 2023 Africa Cup of Nations starts today in the year 2024 as it was postponed due to adverse summer flooding in the host nation Ivory Coast.
> >
> > The opening match is tonight at 8pm GMT (9pm CET, 3pm EST) when Ivory Coast take on Guinea-Bissau in the 60000 capacity Alassane Ouattara Stadium (also known as the Olympic Stadium of Epimbe).
> >
> > The AFCON, more than any other international tournament I can think of, feels like it should be granted the REAL FOOTBALL seal of approval. Closely fought matches between teams usually not blessed with super star players, fans in the stadium playing traditional music and beating drums, stadiums with running tracks around them which give a sort of 70's to 90's World Cup retro appeal.
> >
> > Except every AFCON I remember watching of late has been mainly played to largely empty stadiums as they price ticket prices so high as to effectively shut locals out from paying to attend any game not involving the host nation, so perhaps not. Let's hope the ticket prices suit local wallets better this time.
> >
> > Let's use this thread for match reports and scores.
> >
> > Happy AFCON, everyone!
> >
> >
> > RM
>
> Africa Cup of Nations will become the best competition in the world of football (soccer). Maybe in a decade. I’m watching Senegal v Gambia. 1-0 Sadio Mané. Plenty of stars from European top championships (some in Saudi Arabia now… for huge money!)

OK, OK. The West Europeans will continue their sports colonialism. They simply naturalize the great African footballers! Look at Team France! All “French” Africans should be playing for the African nations of their ancestors. The same in the case of England… and all European nations with a colonial past. Maybe FIFA can implement a different policy, as radical as it might look.

Granted, the best coaches will be European for some time to come! Tradition, mind you!

Technical issues now Senegal v Gambia. Yup, it’ll take a while for Africa to catch up technologically. May Almighty Number give them a divine hand!

Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
Founder of Philosophical Science of Sport
• • https://saliu.com/almighty_number.html

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Ion Saliu wrote:

> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 3:11:04 PM UTC+2, Real_Mardin
> wrote:
> > The 2023 Africa Cup of Nations starts today in the year 2024 as
> > it was postponed due to adverse summer flooding in the host
> > nation Ivory Coast.
> >
> > The opening match is tonight at 8pm GMT (9pm CET, 3pm EST) when
> > Ivory Coast take on Guinea-Bissau in the 60000 capacity Alassane
> > Ouattara Stadium (also known as the Olympic Stadium of Epimbe).
> >
> > The AFCON, more than any other international tournament I can
> > think of, feels like it should be granted the REAL FOOTBALL seal
> > of approval. Closely fought matches between teams usually not
> > blessed with super star players, fans in the stadium playing
> > traditional music and beating drums, stadiums with running tracks
> > around them which give a sort of 70's to 90's World Cup retro
> > appeal.
> >
> > Except every AFCON I remember watching of late has been mainly
> > played to largely empty stadiums as they price ticket prices so
> > high as to effectively shut locals out from paying to attend any
> > game not involving the host nation, so perhaps not. Let's hope
> > the ticket prices suit local wallets better this time.
> >
> > Let's use this thread for match reports and scores.
> >
> > Happy AFCON, everyone!
> >
> >
> > RM
>
> Africa Cup of Nations will become the best competition in the world
> of football (soccer).

When they can sort out the problem of people pulling the cables out
of the broadcasting feed! ;-)

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 by: Real_Mardin - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 15:07 UTC

The Sky Sports broadcast lost picture about 20 minutes or so in and googling it seems Supersport in Africa has had the same problem. Google is reporting the half time score as Senegal 1 - The Gambia 0.

RM

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 by: Ion Saliu - Mon, 15 Jan 2024 15:23 UTC

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:11:12 PM UTC+2, Real_Mardin wrote:
> The Sky Sports broadcast lost picture about 20 minutes or so in and googling it seems Supersport in Africa has had the same problem. Google is reporting the half time score as Senegal 1 - The Gambia 0.
>
> RM

Problems solved. Senegal v Gambia is back with the second half. Senegal 2-0.. Game over.

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