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Subject: Manchester City - Internazionale Champions League Final [R]
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 by: Real Mardin - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 22:23 UTC

Saturday 10th June, Kickoff 8pm GMT, 9pm CET

Ataturk Olympic Stadium, Istanbul (capacity 74753)

Inter won the European Cup in 1964 and 1965, and the Champions League in 2010. They also won the UEFA Cup in 1991, 1994 and 1998.

In contrast Manchester City's European trophy cabinet has a lot of empty space, with the 1970 Cup Winners' Cup being the only European trophy to their name.

However, despite Inter being way ahead in terms of European trophies won, Manchester City go into this game as favourites. They've been knocking on the door for a while now, and came close in 2021 (finalists) and 2022 (semi finalists).

Will Manchester City win their first Champions League and make it two out of two for the Premier League in this year's European finals?

Or will Inter upset the odds and win their fourth European Cup and give Serie A a boost after defeats for Roma and Fiorentina in this year's other European finals?

We'll find out on Saturday!

RM

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:09 UTC

Real Mardin wrote:

> Saturday 10th June, Kickoff 8pm GMT, 9pm CET
>
> Ataturk Olympic Stadium, Istanbul (capacity 74753)
>
> Inter won the European Cup in 1964 and 1965, and the Champions League
> in 2010. They also won the UEFA Cup in 1991, 1994 and 1998.
>
> In contrast Manchester City's European trophy cabinet has a lot of
> empty space, with the 1970 Cup Winners' Cup being the only European
> trophy to their name.
>
> However, despite Inter being way ahead in terms of European trophies
> won, Manchester City go into this game as favourites. They've been
> knocking on the door for a while now, and came close in 2021
> (finalists) and 2022 (semi finalists).
>
> Will Manchester City win their first Champions League and make it two
> out of two for the Premier League in this year's European finals?
>
> Or will Inter upset the odds and win their fourth European Cup and
> give Serie A a boost after defeats for Roma and Fiorentina in this
> year's other European finals?
>
> We'll find out on Saturday!

I'm going 2-1 Manchester City.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 14:45 UTC

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 6:23:09 PM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> Saturday 10th June, Kickoff 8pm GMT, 9pm CET
>
> Ataturk Olympic Stadium, Istanbul (capacity 74753)

Some interesting quotes in this article by some dude who spends some of his free time trying to predict the outcome of soccer tournaments:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/insider/insider/story/_/id/37814446/are-inter-milan-big-underdog-vs-manchester-city-champions-league-final

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 by: Real Mardin - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 18:06 UTC

On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 3:45:14 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 6:23:09 PM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> > Saturday 10th June, Kickoff 8pm GMT, 9pm CET
> >
> > Ataturk Olympic Stadium, Istanbul (capacity 74753)
> Some interesting quotes in this article by some dude who spends some of his free time trying to predict the outcome of soccer tournaments:
>
> https://www.espn.com/soccer/insider/insider/story/_/id/37814446/are-inter-milan-big-underdog-vs-manchester-city-champions-league-final

Ahhh......so that’s why Inter are 11/2 to win!

Good work, Sir!

RM

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 by: anders t - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 20:46 UTC

What is the Rooting Ratio for non-Citizens/non-Interistas?

City 1:99 Inter

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Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
>What is the Rooting Ratio for non-Citizens/non-Interistas?
>
>City 1:99 Inter?

Added questionmark.

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 by: Real Mardin - Fri, 9 Jun 2023 20:58 UTC

On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 9:47:23 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
> What is the Rooting Ratio for non-Citizens/non-Interistas?
>
> City 1:99 Inter
>
>
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> Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

Yeah, you’re probably not far off there. On the BBC sports news they conceded English fans were quite conflicted over who to support, particularly in light of the allegations regarding Man City breaching financial regulations.

RM

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 by: MH - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 01:23 UTC

On 2023-06-09 14:46, anders t wrote:
> What is the Rooting Ratio for non-Citizens/non-Interistas?
>
> City 1:99 Inter
>
>

Not a city fan, but I admire the way they play, and quite like Pep. I
have an irrational bias against Inter, for which I partly blame
Futbolmetrix, and partly the way they played, and won kind of
undeservedly vs. Bayern.

So I am kind of hoping for, but not necessarily expecting, a City win.

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 by: FF - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 03:35 UTC

On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 1:23:09 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
> Saturday 10th June, Kickoff 8pm GMT, 9pm CET
>
> Ataturk Olympic Stadium, Istanbul (capacity 74753)
>
> Inter won the European Cup in 1964 and 1965, and the Champions League in 2010. They also won the UEFA Cup in 1991, 1994 and 1998.
>
> In contrast Manchester City's European trophy cabinet has a lot of empty space, with the 1970 Cup Winners' Cup being the only European trophy to their name.
>
> However, despite Inter being way ahead in terms of European trophies won, Manchester City go into this game as favourites. They've been knocking on the door for a while now, and came close in 2021 (finalists) and 2022 (semi finalists).
>
> Will Manchester City win their first Champions League and make it two out of two for the Premier League in this year's European finals?
>
> Or will Inter upset the odds and win their fourth European Cup and give Serie A a boost after defeats for Roma and Fiorentina in this year's other European finals?
>
> We'll find out on Saturday!
>
>
> RM

I think Inter probably would be better off by not showing up. :) 0 - 3 is not such a bad scoreline after all.

And it goes without saying that I also hope City will win. More precisely, I hope that they'll deliver a similar if not better performance than in the second leg with Real and win.
What I really wouldn't like would be that Inter park the bus and prevail by hacking. You know, Gentile style. And the ref lets it happen. I don't think it will be like this because City will be too good, the amount of necessary hacking would be massive, and it's the UCL final, all eyes will be on it.. So I hope and expect a good match in which the best team wins.

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On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 11:35:18 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:

> I think Inter probably would be better off by not showing up. :) 0 - 3 is not such a bad scoreline after all.

I very much hope that this won't be Guardiola's mindset. City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily lose to Inter.

In fact, with all the triumphalism going on around the Blues, I am revising my sophisticated prediction for the final: City 45%, Inter 55%.

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On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 4:48:31 PM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
> Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
> >What is the Rooting Ratio for non-Citizens/non-Interistas?
> >
> >City 1:99 Inter?
>

You mean excluding Liverpool/Manchester United/Arsenal(?)/Juventus/Milan fans?

I would guess that in Italy, excluding Milan and Juve fans, maybe 50-60% would support Inter. Because City have been more dominant in England, I would guess that the fraction of non Liverpool/non-ManU fans supporting City would be more like 30-40%

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On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 4:34:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 11:35:18 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
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> > I think Inter probably would be better off by not showing up. :) 0 - 3 is not such a bad scoreline after all.
> I very much hope that this won't be Guardiola's mindset.

Me too, of course. But he won't, he's too serious for that.

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On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> lose to Inter.

Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:

https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20

City's expected goals for and against
vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29

Revised sophisticated prediction:
Man City 40%, Inter 60%

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I've at least just ensured that Man City won't win at regulation time, by
putting all my (betting account balance) money on them winning at full
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 by: anders t - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:21 UTC

Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:
>On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 4:48:31?PM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
>> Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
>> >What is the Rooting Ratio for non-Citizens/non-Interistas?
>> >
>> >City 1:99 Inter?
>>
>
>You mean excluding Liverpool/Manchester United/Arsenal(?)/Juventus/Milan fans?
>
>I would guess that in Italy, excluding Milan and Juve fans, maybe 50-60% would support Inter. Because City have been more dominant in England, I would guess that the fraction of non Liverpool/non-ManU fans supporting City would be more like 30-40%

No excluding!

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 by: FF - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:36 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > lose to Inter.
> Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
>
> https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
>
> City's expected goals for and against
> vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
>
> Revised sophisticated prediction:
> Man City 40%, Inter 60%

(:-)))))) Yeah right.
Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 19:17 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > lose to Inter.
> > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> >
> > City's expected goals for and against
> > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> >
> > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 19:40 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > >
> > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > lose to Inter.
> > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > >
> > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > >
> > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions

De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%

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 by: Real Mardin - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 19:51 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:40:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > > lose to Inter.
> > > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > > >
> > > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > > >
> > > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> > Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions
> De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%

HT 0-0

The best thing about the first half was the Paramount + and ebay sponsorship on Inter’s shirt.

RM

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:02 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:51:02 PM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:40:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > > > lose to Inter.
> > > > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > > > >
> > > > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > > > >
> > > > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > > > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > > > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> > > Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions
> > De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%
> HT 0-0
>
> The best thing about the first half was the Paramount + and ebay sponsorship on Inter’s shirt.
>
>

City is looking like Juve in one of their countless EC1/CL finals (if those finals had actually happened. of coursr)

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 by: FF - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:07 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 10:51:02 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:40:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > > > lose to Inter.
> > > > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > > > >
> > > > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > > > >
> > > > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > > > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > > > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> > > Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions
> > De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%
> HT 0-0
>
> The best thing about the first half was the Paramount + and ebay sponsorship on Inter’s shirt.

Much more balanced than expected.
Both teams had one good chance each, I'd say. There was a shot by Haaland that could have been better, and there was a moment when the City keeper was way out and an italian noticed it and tried to capitalise on it, but it went far away. City more dominant, had a few more half-chances but nothing very dangerous.

As for the hacking, Inter did some, didn't appear to be excessive but I have the feeling that if I looked at it in more detail it would be more. Whatever. I didn't quite get it why KDB had to be subbed, didn't show anything on TV. Losing him might prove costly. Anyway, so far there didn't seem to be excessive hacking. Though 3-4 cards would have been in order (one of them for City).

Let's see what the second half will bring.

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 by: FF - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:24 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:07:55 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 10:51:02 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:40:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > > > > lose to Inter.
> > > > > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > > > > >
> > > > > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > > > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > > > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > > > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > > > > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > > > > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> > > > Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions
> > > De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%
> > HT 0-0
> >
> > The best thing about the first half was the Paramount + and ebay sponsorship on Inter’s shirt.
> Much more balanced than expected.
> Both teams had one good chance each, I'd say. There was a shot by Haaland that could have been better, and there was a moment when the City keeper was way out and an italian noticed it and tried to capitalise on it, but it went far away. City more dominant, had a few more half-chances but nothing very dangerous.
>
> As for the hacking, Inter did some, didn't appear to be excessive but I have the feeling that if I looked at it in more detail it would be more. Whatever. I didn't quite get it why KDB had to be subbed, didn't show anything on TV. Losing him might prove costly. Anyway, so far there didn't seem to be excessive hacking. Though 3-4 cards would have been in order (one of them for City).
>
> Let's see what the second half will bring.

Way too many mistakes by City. In good offensive positions. (Plus a horrible defensive blunder that almost cost them a goal.) They didn't do them against Real.

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 by: FF - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:29 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:24:14 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:07:55 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 10:51:02 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:40:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > > > > > lose to Inter.
> > > > > > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > > > > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > > > > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > > > > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > > > > > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > > > > > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> > > > > Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions
> > > > De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%
> > > HT 0-0
> > >
> > > The best thing about the first half was the Paramount + and ebay sponsorship on Inter’s shirt.
> > Much more balanced than expected.
> > Both teams had one good chance each, I'd say. There was a shot by Haaland that could have been better, and there was a moment when the City keeper was way out and an italian noticed it and tried to capitalise on it, but it went far away. City more dominant, had a few more half-chances but nothing very dangerous.
> >
> > As for the hacking, Inter did some, didn't appear to be excessive but I have the feeling that if I looked at it in more detail it would be more. Whatever. I didn't quite get it why KDB had to be subbed, didn't show anything on TV. Losing him might prove costly. Anyway, so far there didn't seem to be excessive hacking. Though 3-4 cards would have been in order (one of them for City).
> >
> > Let's see what the second half will bring.
> Way too many mistakes by City. In good offensive positions. (Plus a horrible defensive blunder that almost cost them a goal.) They didn't do them against Real.

Finally some dangerous play in Inter's box.
1-0 City.

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 by: FF - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:33 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:29:19 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:24:14 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:07:55 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 10:51:02 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:40:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > > > > > > lose to Inter.
> > > > > > > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > > > > > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > > > > > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > > > > > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > > > > > > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > > > > > > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> > > > > > Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions
> > > > > De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%
> > > > HT 0-0
> > > >
> > > > The best thing about the first half was the Paramount + and ebay sponsorship on Inter’s shirt.
> > > Much more balanced than expected.
> > > Both teams had one good chance each, I'd say. There was a shot by Haaland that could have been better, and there was a moment when the City keeper was way out and an italian noticed it and tried to capitalise on it, but it went far away. City more dominant, had a few more half-chances but nothing very dangerous.
> > >
> > > As for the hacking, Inter did some, didn't appear to be excessive but I have the feeling that if I looked at it in more detail it would be more. Whatever. I didn't quite get it why KDB had to be subbed, didn't show anything on TV. Losing him might prove costly. Anyway, so far there didn't seem to be excessive hacking. Though 3-4 cards would have been in order (one of them for City).
> > >
> > > Let's see what the second half will bring.
> > Way too many mistakes by City. In good offensive positions. (Plus a horrible defensive blunder that almost cost them a goal.) They didn't do them against Real.
> Finally some dangerous play in Inter's box.
> 1-0 City.

Now it becomes interesting.
Inter almost scores back. They hit the crossbar. City *extremely* lucky to escape.

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 by: Real Mardin - Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:34 UTC

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:29:19 PM UTC+1, FF wrote:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:24:14 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:07:55 PM UTC+3, FF wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 10:51:02 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:40:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 3:17:56 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:36:15 PM UTC-4, FF wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 7:19:20 PM UTC+3, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:34:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > City have lost matches this year to Brentford and Tottenham (teams that, like Inter, use a 5-3-2 formation), they can easily
> > > > > > > > > lose to Inter.
> > > > > > > > Maybe I said this partially as an anti-weaufx (*maybe*!), but there is apparently some truth to this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1667457203672866818?s=20
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > City's expected goals for and against
> > > > > > > > vs teams playing with 4 at the back: 2.33-0.88
> > > > > > > > vs teams playing with 3 at the back: 1.63 - 1.29
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Revised sophisticated prediction:
> > > > > > > > Man City 40%, Inter 60%
> > > > > > > (:-)))))) Yeah right.
> > > > > > > Of course, surprises do happen, but I'll be very surprised if it happens this time.
> > > > > > Inter easily the better team in the first 15 minutes. I went too low with my predictions
> > > > > De Bruyne out injured in the 35th minute. Updated Sophisticated predictions: Inter 75%, City 25%
> > > > HT 0-0
> > > >
> > > > The best thing about the first half was the Paramount + and ebay sponsorship on Inter’s shirt.
> > > Much more balanced than expected.
> > > Both teams had one good chance each, I'd say. There was a shot by Haaland that could have been better, and there was a moment when the City keeper was way out and an italian noticed it and tried to capitalise on it, but it went far away. City more dominant, had a few more half-chances but nothing very dangerous.
> > >
> > > As for the hacking, Inter did some, didn't appear to be excessive but I have the feeling that if I looked at it in more detail it would be more. Whatever. I didn't quite get it why KDB had to be subbed, didn't show anything on TV. Losing him might prove costly. Anyway, so far there didn't seem to be excessive hacking. Though 3-4 cards would have been in order (one of them for City).
> > >
> > > Let's see what the second half will bring.
> > Way too many mistakes by City. In good offensive positions. (Plus a horrible defensive blunder that almost cost them a goal.) They didn't do them against Real.
> Finally some dangerous play in Inter's box.
> 1-0 City.

Rodri puts Man City 1-0 up after 68 minutes, then at the other end Brozovic’s header hits the crossbar. Inter have wasted a few chances to score tonight.

RM

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