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* The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337milivella
+- The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337Werner Pichler
+* The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337Jesper Lauridsen
|`* The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337Futbolmetrix
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The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337

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Subject: The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337
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 by: milivella - Wed, 21 Jun 2023 02:25 UTC

Just the video, for the time being:
https://youtu.be/2cNa_aIS174

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Sometimes, it's worth the wait...

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Cheers
milivella

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Subject: Re: The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337
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 by: Werner Pichler - Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:19 UTC

On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 4:25:20 AM UTC+2, milivella wrote:
> Just the video, for the time being:
> https://youtu.be/2cNa_aIS174

!!!

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Wed, 21 Jun 2023 22:53 UTC

On Wednesday, 21 June 2023 at 04:25:20 UTC+2, milivella wrote:
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> Sometimes, it's worth the wait...

Haaland is just a cheap knock-off of da bull.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 21 Jun 2023 23:08 UTC

On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 6:53:27 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

> > Sometimes, it's worth the wait...
> Haaland is just a cheap knock-off of da bull.

Indeed!

He was a bit rusty in the first half, TBH.

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 by: Mark - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 10:14 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:08:13 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 6:53:27 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
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> > Haaland is just a cheap knock-off of da bull.
> Indeed!
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> He was a bit rusty in the first half, TBH.

No wonder after all this time without playing!

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 22 Jun 2023 22:23 UTC

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 1:08:13 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 6:53:27 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
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> He was a bit rusty in the first half, TBH.

Can we also put in a good word for Puputti? How many times did he make up 30 meters on an opponent running unopposed towards goal and cleared the danger?

Also, it's nice to have a proper goalie.

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 by: milivella - Wed, 2 Aug 2023 02:53 UTC

What happened
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The Finnish Cup quarter-finals started. Results of the matches before yours:
HJK 0-1 TPS

Your match was at home against Haka. Their XI was:
4-3-3
No Player Ps Skl OPr
01 Markus Juhola G 200K
02 Ari Heikkinen RB STP 300K
05 Harri Ylonen D THV 180K
06 N. Suoste M PTH 450K
03 V. Nylund D THP 180K
07 Sami Vaisanen A HFS 150K
04 Jukka Ruhanen A PTH 130K
11 Jari Kaasalainen LW CSP 180K
08 J. Andersson A HFS 100K
10 Sami Ristila A HFC 200K
09 Tony Elomaa A FHP 250K

You agreed with Aggie and fielded the following XI:

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No Player I S Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+-
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01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 16 0 +25 +1.56
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02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 54 0 +23 +0.43
05 P.Viljanen CD 160K 12 HTP FIN 10 0 + 7 +0.70
03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 53 0 +21 +0.40
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06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 31 0 +14 +0.45
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07 Halonen RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 46 1 +34 +0.74
04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 18 0 +14 +0.78
11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 2 0 + 6 +3.00
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10 Adlane A 180K 13 FHP ALG 22 3 + 2 +0.09
09 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 45 65 +28 +0.62
08 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232224 FHS FIN 30 11 + 7 +0.23

Video of the match:
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Jaro - Haka
51' 1-0 Tauriainen
62' 2-0 Tauriainen
68' 3-0 Tauriainen
72' 4-0 Tauriainen
78' 5-0 Piirainen

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Possession 53% 47%
Goal attempts 15 10
On target 13 7
Corners won 2 1
Fouls conceded 0 1

Other results:
Ilves and Mypa went through.

The semi-finals will be:
Ilves - Jaro
TPS - MYPA

Also notice that:
- Halonen got a knock.
- Halonen's price has gone up from 170K to 180K.

New choice
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Who do you agree with?

A. Aggie the Agnostic: "Do. Not. Touch. Anything."

B. Ben the Basic: "Make an offer to FinnPa for Jari Hudd: nominally a
right back, but generally a good defender, with his
tackling>speed>passing skills. He's worth 350K."

D. Dan the Dazzled: "Make an offer to Brondby for Kim Daugaard. He's
worth 350K! Oh, by the way, he is a right wing good at
heading>finishing>ball-control."

E. Evelyn the Evaluator: "I'll give you the complete skill report of a
player (in your squad, or on the market) of your choice. You'll have to
skip the next market round (in addition to the current one), though.
Then you'll be given the chance to put that player on the market (if in
your squad) or to make an offer for him (if he is on the market now)."

F. Fred the Frugal: "You will never not play Tsymbalar. Put Jussi
Viljanen on the market!" (Will the Watcher: "...He adds literally
nothing to the team!"

H. Helen the Healer: "I'll reduce Vanhala's injury by 1 match. You skip
the next 2 market rounds (in addition to the current one), though. Or
I'll heal Halonen, and you'll skip just the next round (in addition to
the current one)."

M. Marika the Marketer: "I'll give an additional 403,474 pounds (20% of
your budget at the beginning of the season). You'll have to skip the
next 3 market rounds (in addition to the current one), though."

N. Noah the Netter: "OK, Da Bull this and Da Bull that, but we can get
better forwards! Make an offer to FSW Zwickau for Jacek Mencel. An
attacker (of course) worth 300K. Skills: finishing(!)>heading>shot-power."

P. Pat the Paranoid: "What madman keeps only two central defenders in
his squad?! Make an offer to VPS for Harri Kevari. For just 110K, you
will get a player competent at heading>tackling>shot-power."

S. Scott the Scout: "Halonen is overvalued by the market. Unload him! [=
give him a free transfer]"

T. Trish the Trainer: "I'll improve a player of your choice by 1 point
out of 7 (if goalkeeping: out of 47, and that will make his price
higher) in a skill of your choice. You'll skip the next 3 or 4 (random
choice; if goalkeeping, 3) market rounds (in addition to the current
one), though."

If you agree about getting a report or heal a player, you have to
specify which player. If you agree about improving a player's skill, you
have to specify both the player and the skill. A different subject (i.e.
player or player's skill) count as a different vote: e.g. two votes for
getting the report of player A and two votes for getting the report of
player B lose against three votes for Aggie.

If you agree about making an offer for a player, you can specify the
starting sum, the max sum, and whether you want to use one or two
players of yours (whether they are on the market or not) to replace the
amount of money equivalent to their current price. Likewise, if you
agree about putting a player on the market, you can specify the min sum
you're willing to accept for selling him. Different details (i.e. sums
of money, or players to offer) do _not_ count as different votes: e.g.
two votes for making a starting offer of 100K for player A and two votes
for making a starting offer of 1000K for player B beat three votes for
Aggie.

Consider that if you put a player on the market, you won't be given the
chance to take him off it.

Also, you supposedly can't buy more than 5 players in a season; and you
can't sell more than 5 players in a season. So far you bought 2 players,
and sold 0, plus 0 in exchange for players you bought.

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Useful info
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Squad - Skills and performance
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Player I S Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+-
Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 17 0 +30 +1.76
Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 55 0 +28 +0.51
Snellman CD 100K 8 TFH FIN 10 0 + 9 +0.90
P.Viljanen CD 160K 12 HTP FIN 11 0 +12 +1.10
Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 54 0 +26 +0.48
Halonen K RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 47 1 +39 +0.83
McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 19 0 +19 +1.00
Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 32 0 +19 +0.59
Sorvisto CM 180K 13 TPV FIN 44 7 +15 +0.34
Wiss CM DM 150K 11 PTC FIN 21 1 - 4 -0.19
Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 3 0 +11 +3.67
J.Viljanen LW A 180K 13 CSF FIN 0 0 0 0.00
Yeremenko LW 200K 14 SCH RUS 37 2 +22 +0.59
Adlane A 180K 13 FHP ALG 23 3 + 7 +0.30
Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232224 FHS FIN 31 12 +12 +0.39
Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 46 69 +33 +0.72
Vanhala 2 A 250K 15 PTV FIN 48 12 +22 +0.46

Players on trial = without contract (so their price is unknown [it's low
in most but not all cases] and they could leave the team anytime; if you
play them enough, they'll get a contract)
Player I S Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+-
-

I = Injured: number of weeks he'll be out
- ? = out for an unknown number of weeks
- K = Knock = his form is supposedly OK, but he's more likely to pick up
a serious injury. The knock will heal if he'll get rest.
- S = out for the rest of the season
S = Suspended
Ps = Position
B = positon according to Ben
OPr = Original Price when joined the club
Sm = Sum of skill points
PVHTCSF: skill points in
- P = Passing
- V = shot Velocity from outside the penalty box
- H = Heading
- T = Tackling
- C = ball Control
- S = Speed
- F = Finishing inside the penalty box
Skl = 1st 2nd and 3rd best skill
Nat = Nation
M = Matches played
G = Goals scored
+- = goal difference when the player was on the field
A+- = goal difference per matches played

Squad - Transfer market
-----------------------

Player Ps OPr CPr S P F T TPr
Andrea Mazzantini G 450K 450K 2 0 1
Tero Suominen RB 160K 180K 3 0 1
Daniel Snellman CD 100K 85K 3 0 2
Petteri Viljanen CD 160K 160K 3 0 2
Tomas Nygard LB 150K 170K 3 0 2
Arto Halonen RW 160K 180K 3 0 1
Pat McGinlay CM 450K 500K 3 0 1
Janne Puputti CM 250K 250K 3 0 1
Marko Sorvisto CM 180K 190K 3 0 1
Jarkko Wiss CM 150K 120K 3 0 2
Ilia Tsymbalar LW 600K 600K 1 0 1
Jussi Viljanen LW 180K 180K 1 0 1
Aleksei Yeremenko LW 200K 200K - - 1 * 160K
Adlane A 180K 150K 3 0 1
Kimmo Piirainen A 300K 225K 3 0 1
Vesa Tauriainen A 250K 300K 2 0 1
Jari Vanhala A 250K 170K 2 0 1


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On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:54:01 PM UTC-4, milivella wrote:
> What happened
> =============
>
> The Finnish Cup quarter-finals started.

Didn't even remember that this was a Cup match.

>
> Your match was at home against Haka. Their XI was:
> Jaro - Haka
> 51' 1-0 Tauriainen
> 62' 2-0 Tauriainen
> 68' 3-0 Tauriainen
> 72' 4-0 Tauriainen
> 78' 5-0 Piirainen

Makes this even sweeter.

>
> J H
> Possession 53% 47%
> Goal attempts 15 10
> On target 13 7

Seven saves by Mazzantini!

>
> The semi-finals will be:
> Ilves - Jaro
> TPS - MYPA

We are going to Helsinki!

> Also notice that:
> - Halonen got a knock.

What else did you expect from those Haka butchers?

> - Halonen's price has gone up from 170K to 180K.

Well deserved!

> A. Aggie the Agnostic: "Do. Not. Touch. Anything."

Given that I have completely forgotten all the elaborate strategies that we had developed back in the day, I am tempted.

> B. Ben the Basic: "Make an offer to FinnPa for Jari Hudd: nominally a
> right back, but generally a good defender, with his
> tackling>speed>passing skills. He's worth 350K."

One thing I do remember: Ben's suggestions were always boneheaded (even though now I seem to remember that there was a way to exploit Ben's boneheadedness...)

> D. Dan the Dazzled: "Make an offer to Brondby for Kim Daugaard. He's
> worth 350K! Oh, by the way, he is a right wing good at
> heading>finishing>ball-control."

Hmm... I like Halonen, but he is our only RW.


> E. Evelyn the Evaluator: "I'll give you the complete skill report of a
> player (in your squad, or on the market) of your choice. You'll have to
> skip the next market round (in addition to the current one), though.
> Then you'll be given the chance to put that player on the market (if in
> your squad) or to make an offer for him (if he is on the market now)."

Not something we would use now, but thanks anyway, Evelyn.

> F. Fred the Frugal: "You will never not play Tsymbalar. Put Jussi
> Viljanen on the market!" (Will the Watcher: "...He adds literally
> nothing to the team!"

That's not true, Will, he has one of our best +/- stats

> H. Helen the Healer: "I'll reduce Vanhala's injury by 1 match. You skip
> the next 2 market rounds (in addition to the current one), though. Or
> I'll heal Halonen, and you'll skip just the next round (in addition to
> the current one)."

We coped without Vanhala well enough against Haka...

> M. Marika the Marketer: "I'll give an additional 403,474 pounds (20% of
> your budget at the beginning of the season). You'll have to skip the
> next 3 market rounds (in addition to the current one), though."

Maybe. Get some more cash as we relearn how to play the game?

> N. Noah the Netter: "OK, Da Bull this and Da Bull that, but we can get
> better forwards! Make an offer to FSW Zwickau for Jacek Mencel. An
> attacker (of course) worth 300K. Skills: finishing(!)>heading>shot-power."

We. Do. Not. Touch. Da. Bull. Go away, Noah.

> P. Pat the Paranoid: "What madman keeps only two central defenders in
> his squad?! Make an offer to VPS for Harri Kevari. For just 110K, you
> will get a player competent at heading>tackling>shot-power."

Pat, you are paranoid
> S. Scott the Scout: "Halonen is overvalued by the market. Unload him! [=
> give him a free transfer]"

How does that help anything?

> T. Trish the Trainer: "I'll improve a player of your choice by 1 point
> out of 7 (if goalkeeping: out of 47, and that will make his price
> higher) in a skill of your choice. You'll skip the next 3 or 4 (random
> choice; if goalkeeping, 3) market rounds (in addition to the current
> one), though."

Not before Evelyn gives us a report.

I am undecided between Aggie, Dan and Marika.

>
> Squad - Skills and performance
> ------------------------------
>
> Player I S Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+-
> Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 17 0 +30 +1.76

Wait, Mazzantini has already played 17 matches for us? Not a bad +/-

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