Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

*BEGIN QUOTE*
Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today

On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>
> *BEGIN QUOTE*
> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
> historical data will still be supported as it is done today

I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
of users are from Google Groups.

What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
Thunderbird.

I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

--
The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it,
can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the
universe to do. -- Galileo

On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>
>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>
> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
> of users are from Google Groups.
>
> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
> Thunderbird.
>
> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>
> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)

--
Experience is what allows you to recognize a mistake the second time you
make it. -- unknown

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:26:02 PM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:

So they're going to maintain a database but do away with the front end? That seems weird. I guess recgroups is dead, haven't tried to open it in ages. Seems like it's too much trouble just to read a bunch of anti-conservative 'gotcha' posts from libs. I'm sure there are plenty of football forums available like this used to be.

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
> >
> > *BEGIN QUOTE*
> > Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
> > Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
> > content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
> > historical data will still be supported as it is done today
> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
> of users are from Google Groups.
>
> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
> Thunderbird.
>
> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>
> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

Outside of my work e-mail, I use gmail.

On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>
>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>
> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
> of users are from Google Groups.
>
> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
> Thunderbird.
>
> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>
> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>

It is -- I would use the old "suck" program to pull in the group (and
the few others I still watch) from an NNTP feed, then provide a server
that people could use. I doubt that there will be a call for it,
but if there were, I could do it.

Hard to believe that after 34 years of Usenet use, it will be history
for me. I got my first feed from UIUC, then from UUNET, if anyone
remembers them. I ran news peers with C News, then INN, for a number
of years. All through the Morris incident, Sep 1994, rise of the
spammers (I wonder if Sanford Wallace is still alive) and the
corresponding cancelers. What a fustercluck.

--
Socialism -- ideas so good they have to be enforced at gunpoint.
-- unknown

On 2023-12-15, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>> >
>> > *BEGIN QUOTE*
>> > Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>> > Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>> > content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>> > historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
>> of users are from Google Groups.
>>
>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>> Thunderbird.
>>
>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
>> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
>> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>>
>> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>
> Outside of my work e-mail, I use gmail.
>

Then you'd have to get a news reader. I don't know Usenet clients
outside of Linux. Thunderbird would work, of course. It looks like PAN
has a Windows client. Heaven only knows if Apple deigns to support
such things.

I'd give you a login to SSH in and use SLRN, if you wanted to do
what I do and use text-based. I assume you can still get Eternal
September accounts.

But I doubt the froup will survive, alas. Too big a blow. Now
we see the problem of having a sugar daddy. You become old and
unattractive like Usenet, and it's "Honey, there's the door."

--
Life may not be quite the party we hoped for, but while we
are here we might as well dance. -- Anonymous

On 12/14/2023 9:16 PM, JGibson wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>>
>>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
>> of users are from Google Groups.
>>
>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>> Thunderbird.
>>
>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
>> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
>> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>>
>> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>
> Outside of my work e-mail, I use gmail.
>

I use Thunderbird for all my mail. Pretty flexible.
--
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
practice, there is."

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:03:32 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>
> *BEGIN QUOTE*
> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today

It's a mercy killing.
AFO&U I guess after 25 years of mostly lurking.

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 9:36:28 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> On 2023-12-15, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> >> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
> >> >
> >> > *BEGIN QUOTE*
> >> > Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
> >> > Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
> >> > content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
> >> > historical data will still be supported as it is done today
> >> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
> >> of users are from Google Groups.
> >>
> >> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
> >> Thunderbird.
> >>
> >> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
> >> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
> >> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
> >>
> >> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
> >> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
> >> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
> >
> > Outside of my work e-mail, I use gmail.
> >
> Then you'd have to get a news reader. I don't know Usenet clients
> outside of Linux. Thunderbird would work, of course. It looks like PAN
> has a Windows client. Heaven only knows if Apple deigns to support
> such things.
>
> I'd give you a login to SSH in and use SLRN, if you wanted to do
> what I do and use text-based. I assume you can still get Eternal
> September accounts.
>
> But I doubt the froup will survive, alas. Too big a blow. Now
> we see the problem of having a sugar daddy. You become old and
> unattractive like Usenet, and it's "Honey, there's the door."
>

It was on life support anyway. rsbc was always "my" group, and I only became super active in rsfc when rsbc hit its deathbed. Only a few of us left anyway. Nice "knowing" you all!

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 7:11:09 AM UTC-6, Some dued wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:03:32 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
> > Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
> >
> > *BEGIN QUOTE*
> > Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today
> It's a mercy killing.
> AFO&U I guess after 25 years of mostly lurking.

AFO&U after 19 years here.

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:03:32 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>
> *BEGIN QUOTE*
> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today

You could start a second FB group that allows all discussions. (the one now is supposed to disallow politics, though it is not usually enforced)

On 2023-12-15, jimbr...@yahoo.com <jimbrowndoc@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:03:32 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>
>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>
>
> You could start a second FB group that allows all discussions. (the one now is supposed to disallow politics, though it is not usually enforced)

RSFC Unleashed!

--
Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
-- Karl Lehenbauer

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com> wrote in
news:slrnunn11t.1ajdo.constance@karen.heins.net:

> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>
>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>
> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the
> majority of users are from Google Groups.
>
> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
> Thunderbird.
>
> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear,
> requiring one to pay for it. There are no good providers with
> sub-$5.00/month cost that I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for
> years, but that is gone.
>
> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

This should do it for most.

paganini.bofh.team port 119 or 563

No registration required, good retention.

On 2023-12-16, Happy Holidaze <posted@usenet.org> wrote:
> "Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com> wrote in
> news:slrnunn11t.1ajdo.constance@karen.heins.net:
>
>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>>
>>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>>
>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the
>> majority of users are from Google Groups.
>>
>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>> Thunderbird.
>>
>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear,
>> requiring one to pay for it. There are no good providers with
>> sub-$5.00/month cost that I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for
>> years, but that is gone.
>>
>> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>
> This should do it for most.
>
> paganini.bofh.team port 119 or 563
>
> No registration required, good retention.

Seems to work well. I'll try it for a while. This in combination with
Thunderbird or Pan should work pretty well for most people, though I don't
know what mobile or tablet users would find to use.

--
Laws are generally found to be nets of such texture, as the little
creep through, the great break through, and the middle-sized alone
are entangled in. -- William Shenstone

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 2:03:32 PM UTC-8, JGibson wrote:
> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>
> *BEGIN QUOTE*
> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today

AFO&U after 18 years or so. Not sure. I still think an RSFCking reunion should be had, and I still propose a LAS VEGAS SPROTS BETTING VENUE. I have a little respect for most of you and a lot of respect for a few of you. I would buy you a beer.

Yours,
Dan S.

On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:03:28 -0800 (PST), JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:

>Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>
>*BEGIN QUOTE*
>Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today

$50 buys 1000G on Astraweb. That's a ton of usenet use.

I still use Forte Agent 4, works with all versions of Windows, but have to search to find free version now. Agent 9 is excellent but is $29 now, I
think

Xananews looks great and is free, Pan looks good as well and is also free.

On 2023-12-16, joe@mich.com <joe@mich.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:03:28 -0800 (PST), JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>
>>*BEGIN QUOTE*
>>Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>
> $50 buys 1000G on Astraweb. That's a ton of usenet use.
>
> I still use Forte Agent 4, works with all versions of Windows, but
> have to search to find free version now. Agent 9 is excellent but is
> $29 now, I think
>
> Xananews looks great and is free, Pan looks good as well and is also free.

PAN originally stood for Pimp-Ass Newsreader. (Of course that meant I
had to try it out.) I found it tow work well, and if I were a graphical
kind of guy I would use that.

--
The problem with Internet quotations is that many of them
are not genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln

Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>>
>>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>>
>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
>> of users are from Google Groups.
>>
>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>> Thunderbird.
>>
>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
>> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
>> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>>
>> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>
> If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
> pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)
>

If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up
flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I
wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the
cost and effort.

Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up.

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>
>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>
> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
> of users are from Google Groups.
>
> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
> Thunderbird.
>
> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
> one to pay for it.

Eternal September has been flaky lately. Been seeing a lot of out of
sequence post delivery where I see the replies before the original poast,
or never see the original poast. It was making rsfc unusable for me so I
stopped for a while. But checking in now it *seems* to have been resolved.
We’ll see

--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie

On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 5:41:33 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <cons...@duxmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <cons...@duxmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
> >>>
> >>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
> >>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
> >>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
> >>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
> >>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
> >>
> >> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
> >> of users are from Google Groups.
> >>
> >> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
> >> Thunderbird.
> >>
> >> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
> >> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
> >> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
> >>
> >> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
> >> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
> >> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
> >
> > If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
> > pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)
> >
> If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up
> flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I
> wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the
> cost and effort.
>
> Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up.

I knew a guy who owned and flew his own plane. He seemed to really
enjoy it until he crashed and killed himself and two other people.
So I stick to commercial flights, on big planes, with professional pilots.

Irish Mike

On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>>>
>>>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>>>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>>>
>>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
>>> of users are from Google Groups.
>>>
>>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>>> Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
>>> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
>>> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>>>
>>> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
>>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
>>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>>
>> If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
>> pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)
>>
>
> If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up
> flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I
> wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the
> cost and effort.
>
> Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up.
>

Darn! Missed my window. :)

I'll keep looking for opportunities. I was thinking I might try learning
now that I am only a few miles from the EAA location, but considering my
medical situation I decided discretion was the better part of valor.

--
That a few of us need to be more in touch with our feelings has obscured
a deep truth: many more folks need to be much less in touch with theirs.
-- Eric Weinstein

On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>>
>>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>>
>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
>> of users are from Google Groups.
>>
>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>> Thunderbird.
>>
>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
>> one to pay for it.
>
> Eternal September has been flaky lately. Been seeing a lot of out of
> sequence post delivery where I see the replies before the original poast,
> or never see the original poast. It was making rsfc unusable for me so I
> stopped for a while. But checking in now it *seems* to have been resolved.
> We’ll see

Same here. But the paganini.bofh.team server that was posted here is working
great for me, and I am using it.

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That a few of us need to be more in touch with our feelings has obscured
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Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>>>>
>>>>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>>>>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
>>>> of users are from Google Groups.
>>>>
>>>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>>>> Thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
>>>> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
>>>> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
>>>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
>>>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>>>
>>> If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
>>> pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)
>>>
>>
>> If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up
>> flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I
>> wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the
>> cost and effort.
>>
>> Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up.
>>
>
> Darn! Missed my window. :)
>
> I'll keep looking for opportunities. I was thinking I might try learning
> now that I am only a few miles from the EAA location, but considering my
> medical situation I decided discretion was the better part of valor.
>

Flying gliders doesn’t require an FAA medical, if that interests you.

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On 2023-12-18, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
> Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *BEGIN QUOTE*
>>>>>> Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
>>>>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
>>>>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
>>>>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
>>>>> of users are from Google Groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
>>>>> Thunderbird.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
>>>>> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
>>>>> I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
>>>>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
>>>>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....
>>>>
>>>> If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
>>>> pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up
>>> flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I
>>> wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the
>>> cost and effort.
>>>
>>> Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up.
>>>
>>
>> Darn! Missed my window. :)
>>
>> I'll keep looking for opportunities. I was thinking I might try learning
>> now that I am only a few miles from the EAA location, but considering my
>> medical situation I decided discretion was the better part of valor.
>>
>
> Flying gliders doesn’t require an FAA medical, if that interests you.

I remember that from when I was a kid...how hard is it to get a tow?

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