Le 09/04/2024 à 21:14, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>
> If Vapp ≠ 0, Stella will never reach the Earth, obviously.
> So this apparent speed is of no interest for the twin 'paradox',
> even if it is interesting for 'superluminal jets'.

No, you're the one in the wrong here.
Apparent speeds are, precisely, of capital interest for the Langevin
traveler.
Moreover, if we properly understand the stroke of genius of live-live
vision for any direct observer, as is the case with protaginists who
experience EVERYTHING live-live from start to finish, and the tremendous
upheaval conceptually, we see where Langevin's paradox was nestled, that
is to say in the spatial zoom effect that we accept for Terrence but not
for Stella. However, we must accept both.
"The effects of physics are reciprocal by permutation of frame of
reference, including apparent effects!".
It is this formidable equation that you come up against:
D'=D.sqrt(1-Vo²/c²)/(1+cosµ.Vo/c)
You accept it for Terrence looking at Stella and her rocket.
But the terrible counter-intuitiveness of the reciprocal effect has
disconcerted physicists for 120 years. They do not understand that the
same, strictly the same effect occurs for the opposite speaker, and that
Stella does not cross 7.2al twice, but twice 36al forwards, and twice 4 al
backwards.
In total, she will have crossed 72al/18years=4c forward,
and 8al/18ans=0.4444c towards the rear of its rocket.
This is very important to understand, if we want to understand the
paradox. And this is the fundamental key that no one had the trigger to
understand.

R.H.

Le 09/04/2024 à 23:16, Serguey Sütő Puskás a écrit :

>
> ‘𝗡𝗼_𝗲𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝗼𝗳_𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗱𝗲’_𝗶𝗻_𝗚𝗮𝘇𝗮_–_𝗣𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗼𝗻_𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗲𝗳

>
> 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝘀𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀_𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀_𝗮𝗴𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀𝘁_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹
> The measure would be meant to pressure West Jerusalem to allow more food
> aid into Gaza

It's not that these topics are unimportant, but you are polluting these
three forums with useless and always off-topic croosposts.
This is not the place to talk about Gaza or the war in Ukraine, even if
the subject is saddening and if the speakers practiced the diplomacies
that I have proposed for months or even years for these two useless and
ridiculous wars.
But that has nothing to do here.

R.H.

Richard Hachel wrote:

> Le 09/04/2024 à 23:16, Serguey Sütő Puskás a écrit :
>> ‘𝗡𝗼_𝗲𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝗼𝗳_𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗱𝗲’_𝗶𝗻_𝗚𝗮𝘇𝗮_–_𝗣𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗼𝗻_𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗲𝗳
>> 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝘀𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀_𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀_𝗮𝗴𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀𝘁_𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹 The measure would be meant to
>> pressure West Jerusalem to allow more food aid into Gaza
>
> It's not that these topics are unimportant, but you are polluting these
> three forums with useless and always off-topic croosposts.
> This is not the place to talk about Gaza or the war in Ukraine, even if
> the subject is saddening and if the speakers practiced the diplomacies
> that I have proposed for months or even years for these two useless and
> ridiculous wars. But that has nothing to do here.

you mean, you don't undrestand physics, you fucking stupid in everything,
especially letting that motherfucker gay of macron destroying your fucking
country, once a nice place to be. That's sad, you uneducated fool, not
knowing what cosines stands for in physics, lol.

𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝗹𝗮𝘂𝗻𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀_𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗺_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗲_𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼_𝗨𝗦_𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗢_𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
Moscow is following a trail from last month’s Crocus City Hall attack
https://www.%72%74.com/russia/595663-russia-terrorism-probe-us-nato/

the bidona used fucking ukran Burisma to commit terrorism on Russian and
other countries. And the gay macrone knows it, you fool.

𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝗔𝗰𝗰𝘂𝘀𝗲𝘀_𝗕𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘀_𝗕𝘂𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗺𝗮_𝗛𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀_𝗼𝗳_𝗟𝗮𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗠𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘆_𝗳𝗼𝗿_𝗧𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗺_
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/%76%69%64eo/JZyw5UJUzxMv

Find out who Victoria Nudelman was with in Ukraine right before the
bombings. A lot of questions can be answered doing that.

Russia will find plenty of mass murder reptiles in usa eu nato. All kinds
of filthy blood thirsty maniacs

The race to jail the BIDENS is on con-gress or RUSSIA! My guess the later,
con-gress has been doing such a good job of stalling on any biden trails!

About time. Expose these cretin evildoers and bring them to justice

Get them ALL one by one ,let them 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙥𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙚 for 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙘𝙧𝙞𝙢𝙚𝙨 𝙖𝙜𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙨𝙩 𝙍𝙪𝙨𝙨𝙞𝙖𝙣
𝙥𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 !

Richard Hachel wrote:
>
> Le 06/04/2024 à 02:45, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
> > Why is it "absurd"?
>
> It's as absurd as believing that you can draw a student a round square.
> As the student does not succeed, we blame the pencil, then we blame the
> paper.

That is another irrelevant mumble. You need to have a cogent argument,
not mumbling a false comparison.
> ... but the student still does not know how to draw a round square.

Tachyons aren't round squares. Irrelevant simile.

> This is what is happening with the speed of light speed, or body
> propagation or physical laws.

No, it's not. Energy and momentum are the basis, not round squares
or an undefined Vo. The basic relationship is E^2 - p^2c^2 = m^2c^4
m^2 positive: bradyons, 0 < v < c; m^2 zero: luxons (photons); v = c
m^2 negative: tachyons, c < v < infinity -- completes the symmetry.

> We simply cannot.

We simply can, even if you cannot.

> [Irrelevant baloney deleted.]

> It is simply as illogical, in OUR UNIVERSE, as to return before having
> left, or to go faster than an instantaneous interaction.

Tachyons can't do that, so this assertion is irrelevant, too.

z

On 04/09/2024 05:54 PM, gharnagel wrote:
> Richard Hachel wrote:
>>
>> Le 06/04/2024 à 02:45, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
>> > Why is it "absurd"?
>>
>> It's as absurd as believing that you can draw a student a round square.
>> As the student does not succeed, we blame the pencil, then we blame
>> the paper.
>
> That is another irrelevant mumble. You need to have a cogent argument,
> not mumbling a false comparison.
>> ... but the student still does not know how to draw a round square.
>
> Tachyons aren't round squares. Irrelevant simile.
>
>> This is what is happening with the speed of light speed, or body
>> propagation or physical laws.
>
> No, it's not. Energy and momentum are the basis, not round squares
> or an undefined Vo. The basic relationship is E^2 - p^2c^2 = m^2c^4
> m^2 positive: bradyons, 0 < v < c; m^2 zero: luxons (photons); v = c
> m^2 negative: tachyons, c < v < infinity -- completes the symmetry.
>
>> We simply cannot.
>
> We simply can, even if you cannot.
>
>> [Irrelevant baloney deleted.]
>
>> It is simply as illogical, in OUR UNIVERSE, as to return before having
>> left, or to go faster than an instantaneous interaction.
>
> Tachyons can't do that, so this assertion is irrelevant, too.
>
> z

It's only "no closed time-like curves",
doesn't say anything about "no linear
Galilean motion", Relativity Theory.

Photinos and the Aspect-type experiments
after J.S. Bell and that, you know,
helps remind that Cerenkov and so on,
is, faster than light in a medium, ....

Of course the sky survey and Wiki is full
of "apparent superluminal motion" these days.

Einstein's Relativity Theory, ....

Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
> Richard Hachel wrote:

> Tachyons aren't round squares.

My dear sir, you are a dirty liar.
Tachyons are round squares in the sick minds of a few physicists in search
of glory.

R.H.

Den 09.04.2024 23:49, skrev Richard Hachel:
> Le 09/04/2024 à 21:14, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>>
>> If the velocity v is a long the line of sight, then the angular
>> diameter of the Earth will increase proportionally with time,
>> but the Earth will appear to be stationary, so its apparent
>> speed is zero.
>>
>> But if the Earth is approaching Stella at an angle ϕ from
>> the line of sight, she can measure the angular velocity,
>> and when the distance is known, she can calculate
>> the apparent transverse velocity, which indeed may be
>> higher than c.
>>
>> Vapp = v⋅sin(ϕ)/(1 - (v/c)*cos(ϕ))
>>
>> For example, if ϕ = π/4 and v = 0.8c, Vapp = 1.3c
>>
>> If Vapp ≠ 0, Stella will never reach the Earth, obviously.
>> So this apparent speed is of no interest for the twin 'paradox',
>> even if it is interesting for 'superluminal jets'.
>>

>
> No, you're the one in the wrong here.
> Apparent speeds are, precisely, of capital interest for the Langevin
> traveler.

No apparent phenomenon can have physical consequences.

You can kick and scream and whine all you want, your "theory"
is both inconsistent and experimental falsified.

The below is mindless nonsense.

> Moreover, if we properly understand the stroke of genius of live-live
> vision for any direct observer, as is the case with protaginists who
> experience EVERYTHING live-live from start to finish, and the tremendous
> upheaval conceptually, we see where Langevin's paradox was nestled, that
> is to say in the spatial zoom effect that we accept for Terrence but not
> for Stella. However, we must accept both.
> "The effects of physics are reciprocal by permutation of frame of
> reference, including apparent effects!".
> It is this formidable equation that you come up against:
> D'=D.sqrt(1-Vo²/c²)/(1+cosµ.Vo/c)
> You accept it for Terrence looking at Stella and her rocket.
> But the terrible counter-intuitiveness of the reciprocal effect has
> disconcerted physicists for 120 years. They do not understand that the
> same, strictly the same effect occurs for the opposite speaker, and that
> Stella does not cross 7.2al twice, but twice 36al forwards, and twice 4
> al backwards.
> In total, she will have crossed 72al/18years=4c forward,
> and 8al/18ans=0.4444c towards the rear of its rocket.
> This is very important to understand, if we want to understand the
> paradox. And this is the fundamental key that no one had the trigger to
> understand.
>
> R.H.

THE END.

--
Paul

https://paulba.no/

Le 10/04/2024 à 15:24, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 09.04.2024 23:49, skrev Richard Hachel:

> THE END.

I find you optimistic. :))

R.H.

Le 10/04/2024 à 15:24, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 09.04.2024 23:49, skrev Richard Hachel:

> No apparent phenomenon can have physical consequences.

:))

R.H.

Richard Hachel wrote:

> Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
>> Tachyons aren't round squares.
>
> My dear sir, you are a dirty liar. Tachyons are round squares in the sick
> minds of a few physicists in search of glory.

so true indeed. I like truthiness. Lol, what a disgrace. You gay frogs are
about to beat the english pigs at incompetence and misery. What a
capitalist disgrace.

𝗙𝗲𝗰𝗮𝗹_𝗿𝗶𝗱𝗱𝗲𝗻_𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿_𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀_𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀_𝗢𝗹𝘆𝗺𝗽𝗶𝗰𝘀
The Seine has “alarming” bacteria levels, tests have revealed
https://www.%72%74.com/news/595694-water-pollution-paris-olympics/

Overseas is overrated. So many Americans save up their whole life to spend
50000 on a trip to Paris for this type of Realization 😂

I threw up just thinking about being in there. Disgusting 🤢

Will a Macron blame Russia? Probably already has

The Seine, like the Ganges and the Thames, has been an open sewer for
centuries. Great choice for a swimming meet.

Paris like San Francisco? People pooping on the streets? Possibly worse.
It's called "open borders"

I'm going to hold the Macron to his promis of swimming in the e-coli
infested river.

On 4/10/2024 3:35 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
>> Richard Hachel wrote:
>
>> Tachyons aren't round squares.
>
> My dear sir, you are a dirty liar.
> Tachyons are round squares in the sick minds of a few physicists in
> search of glory.

Bob Lazar mentions something about how gravity is a wave. The idea of
gravitons is not correct...

https://youtu.be/Fqd6kdg_EaA

Grain of salt indeed, however, it is interesting to me.

;^)

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> On 4/10/2024 3:35 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
>> Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
>>> Tachyons aren't round squares.
>>
>> My dear sir, you are a dirty liar.
>> Tachyons are round squares in the sick minds of a few physicists in
>> search of glory.
>
> Bob Lazar mentions something about how gravity is a wave. The idea of
> gravitons is not correct... https://youtu.be/Fqd6kdg_EaA
> Grain of salt indeed, however, it is interesting to me.

yes sure, then he became a "graphic designer" with all his "physics" he was
paid to push. lol, graphic designer my ass.

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> On 4/10/2024 3:35 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
>> Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
>>> Tachyons aren't round squares.
>>
>> My dear sir, you are a dirty liar.
>> Tachyons are round squares in the sick minds of a few physicists in
>> search of glory.
>
> Bob Lazar mentions something about how gravity is a wave. The idea of
> gravitons is not correct... https://youtu.be/Fqd6kdg_EaA
> Grain of salt indeed, however, it is interesting to me.

then with all his big physics in gravity etc, your capitalist country puts
you a "graphic designer", when the same gave khazar goy Einstine a big
house, position at univ, and the permission to fuck his own cousin
legally??

Richard Hachel wrote:
>
> Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
> >
> > Richard Hachel wrote nonsense because:
> >
> > Tachyons aren't round squares.

> My dear sir, you are a dirty liar.

You are projecting your own dishonesty, Richard. I may speculate, but I
don't tell lies like you do.

> Tachyons are round squares in the sick minds of a few physicists in search
> of glory.
>
> R.H.

Ridiculous character assassination. I gave you links to some papers from
Charles Schwartz (a REAL doctor of theoretical physics) but you obviously
are incapable of understanding simple English. He is a professor emeritus
of UC Berkeley, so he has no interest in monetary or "glory" as you put it.
There's no glory anyway in espousing tachyon theory. You are an ass, sir.

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>
> On 4/10/2024 3:35 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
> >
> > Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
> > >
> > > Tachyons aren't round squares.
> > >
> > > My dear sir, you are a dirty liar.
> > > Tachyons are round squares in the sick minds of a few physicists in
> > > search of glory.
>
> Bob Lazar mentions something about how gravity is a wave. The idea of
> gravitons is not correct...
>
> https://youtu.be/Fqd6kdg_EaA
>
> Grain of salt indeed, however, it is interesting to me.

You seem to be unaware of wave/particle duality: Lambda = h/p, where
p = particle momentum.

W dniu 11.04.2024 o 15:27, gharnagel pisze:
> Richard Hachel wrote:
>>
>> Le 10/04/2024 à 02:54, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
>> >
>> > Richard Hachel wrote nonsense because:
>> >
>> > Tachyons aren't round squares.
>
>> My dear sir, you are a dirty liar.
>
> You are projecting your own dishonesty, Richard.  I may speculate, but I
> don't tell lies like you do.

Of course you do. Of course, just like all other
followers of The Shit.

Le 11/04/2024 à 18:14, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> W dniu 11.04.2024 o 15:27, gharnagel pisze:
>> Richard Hachel wrote:
>>>

>> I don't tell lies.

> Of course you do.

I doubted it. He lies.

R.H.

Richard Hachel wrote:
>
> Le 11/04/2024 à 18:14, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> >
> > W dniu 11.04.2024 o 15:27, gharnagel pisze:
> > >
> > > Richard Hachel wrote:
> > > >

:-))

Hachel tries to blot out his abusive attack on
renowned physicists, even dearly departed ones,
by deleting his scurrilous attack from the
record.

> > > I don't tell lies.

> > Of course you do.

Wozzie-boy is projecting again.

> I doubted it. He lies.

> R.H.

Nope. On the other hand, your collusion with
a verified liar and confirmed nutcase (in the
form of Maciej) doesn't harmonize well with
your attempt to present yourself as a relativity
luminary.