Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
share this, just happened:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891

But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
intends to appeal.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
> share this, just happened:
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
>
> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
> intends to appeal.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians allow him to remain in power.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
>> share this, just happened:
>>
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
>>
>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
>> intends to appeal.
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
>Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians allow him to remain in power.

The facts are that some years ago

Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
condemn Trump’s candidacy.

“Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
“Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”

This article is more than 7 years old
Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
This article is more than 7 years old

Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump

Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
condemn Trump’s candidacy.

“Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
“Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”

Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
before that election.”
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/23/2024 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
>>> share this, just happened:
>>>
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
>>>
>>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
>>> intends to appeal.
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muzi
>>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>
>> Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians allow him to remain in power.
>
> The facts are that some years ago
>
> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>
> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>
> This article is more than 7 years old
> Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
> This article is more than 7 years old
>
> Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
> Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump
>
> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>
> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>
> Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
> Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
> shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
> the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
> two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
> of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
> before that election.”
>

Which is relevant to what exactly? Canada is much smaller
than USA so there are understandably a smaller number of
wackos (different in quantity but not necessarily quality).

I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.

It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
Here are some possible definitions:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
"A New Kind of Fascism"
<https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
he has done something that others have found disagreeable.

Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>
> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
> Here are some possible definitions:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
> I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
> commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
> my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
> that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
> specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
> "A New Kind of Fascism"
> <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
> If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
> certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
> brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
> he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
>
> Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
> afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
> start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
> fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.
>

Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
"Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
Nothing is against the State."

[1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
to form a government, as the many and varied political
parties could not form a governing coalition
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/23/2024 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
>>>> share this, just happened:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
>>>>
>>>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
>>>> intends to appeal.
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>
>>> Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians allow him to remain in power.
>>
>> The facts are that some years ago
>>
>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>>
>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>>
>> This article is more than 7 years old
>> Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
>> This article is more than 7 years old
>>
>> Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
>> Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump
>>
>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>>
>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>>
>> Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
>> Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
>> shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
>> the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
>> two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
>> of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
>> before that election.”
>>
>
>Which is relevant to what exactly? Canada is much smaller
>than USA so there are understandably a smaller number of
>wackos (different in quantity but not necessarily quality).
>
>I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.

Yup, When I copied from the referenced article I did it twice, my
apologies.

The point was intended to refute the original post that "Trudeau is
nothing more than a Fascist" when in fact Trudeau simply refused to
comment on Trumps "fascist" acts described as "temporarily ban Muslims
from entering the country and build a wall along the Mexican border".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/23/2024 6:51 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2024 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
>>>>> share this, just happened:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
>>>>>
>>>>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
>>>>> intends to appeal.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>>
>>>> Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians allow him to remain in power.
>>>
>>> The facts are that some years ago
>>>
>>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>>>
>>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>>>
>>> This article is more than 7 years old
>>> Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
>>> This article is more than 7 years old
>>>
>>> Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
>>> Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump
>>>
>>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>>>
>>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>>>
>>> Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
>>> Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
>>> shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
>>> the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
>>> two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
>>> of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
>>> before that election.”
>>>
>>
>> Which is relevant to what exactly? Canada is much smaller
>> than USA so there are understandably a smaller number of
>> wackos (different in quantity but not necessarily quality).
>>
>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>
> Yup, When I copied from the referenced article I did it twice, my
> apologies.
>
> The point was intended to refute the original post that "Trudeau is
> nothing more than a Fascist" when in fact Trudeau simply refused to
> comment on Trumps "fascist" acts described as "temporarily ban Muslims
> from entering the country and build a wall along the Mexican border".

Nice meme but that didn't happen.

Similar to Gerald Ford, who was an athlete, skier, dancer
and quite graceful. A comedic parody of Mr Ford as clumsy
remains in the public memory long after any memory of Mr
Ford himself has faded.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:15:38 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>>
>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
>> Here are some possible definitions:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
>> I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
>> commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
>> my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
>> that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
>> specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
>> "A New Kind of Fascism"
>> <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
>> If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
>> certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
>> brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
>> he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
>>
>> Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
>> afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
>> start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
>> fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.
>>
>
>Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
>Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
>Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
>"Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
>Nothing is against the State."
>
>[1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
>to form a government, as the many and varied political
>parties could not form a governing coalition

And who ended up shot and hung up by the heels.

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/23/2024 7:08 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:15:38 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>>>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>>>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>>>
>>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
>>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
>>> Here are some possible definitions:
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
>>> I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
>>> commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
>>> my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
>>> that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
>>> specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
>>> "A New Kind of Fascism"
>>> <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
>>> If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
>>> certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
>>> brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
>>> he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
>>>
>>> Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
>>> afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
>>> start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
>>> fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.
>>>
>>
>> Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
>> Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
>> Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
>> "Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
>> Nothing is against the State."
>>
>> [1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
>> to form a government, as the many and varied political
>> parties could not form a governing coalition
>
> And who ended up shot and hung up by the heels.
>

Yes that happened.
Probably best for all concerned.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:15:38 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>>
>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
>> Here are some possible definitions:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
>> I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
>> commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
>> my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
>> that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
>> specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
>> "A New Kind of Fascism"
>> <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
>> If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
>> certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
>> brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
>> he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
>>
>> Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
>> afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
>> start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
>> fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.

>Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
>Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
>Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
>"Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
>Nothing is against the State."

That's not a good definition until the boundaries of the state are
clearly defined. One can't claim that "Everything is in the State"
without defining "everything". Is it everything within the
government, country borders, empire, 3 mile limit, National Fascist
party, Mare Nostrum, Vatican, Europe, entire planet, or something
else.

Also, what defines "the State"? Mussolini, The Grand Council of
Fascism,
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Council_of_Fascism>
Parliament, various ministers, courts, military, etc. If any two of
these would disagreed, would they both be "against the state"?

Mussolini tried to clarify this in 1932:
"The Doctrine of Fascism"
<https://www.wm.edu/offices/auxiliary/osher/course-info/classnotes/thedoctrineoffascismedited.pdf>
I have some opinions about this document, but I don't want to get into
yet another endless political discussion.

>[1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
>to form a government, as the many and varied political
>parties could not form a governing coalition

Drivel: I bought myself a new pair of work boots:
<https://www.wolverine.com/US/en/hellcat-ultraspring-6-inch-carbonmax-work-boot/194713313141.html>
I've been wearing them around the house to break them in. On my way
down the wooden stairs, I did an un-impressive slip and fall on the
green slime growing on the stairs. New shoe soles tend to be VERY
slippery. Nothing broken or damaged, but the hard landing will
probably produce a few bruises. I'll be painting the stairs with
vinegar when it stops raining (probably Thursday).

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 1/23/2024 7:23 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:15:38 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>>>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>>>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>>>
>>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
>>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
>>> Here are some possible definitions:
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
>>> I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
>>> commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
>>> my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
>>> that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
>>> specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
>>> "A New Kind of Fascism"
>>> <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
>>> If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
>>> certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
>>> brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
>>> he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
>>>
>>> Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
>>> afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
>>> start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
>>> fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.
>
>> Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
>> Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
>> Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
>> "Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
>> Nothing is against the State."
>
> That's not a good definition until the boundaries of the state are
> clearly defined. One can't claim that "Everything is in the State"
> without defining "everything". Is it everything within the
> government, country borders, empire, 3 mile limit, National Fascist
> party, Mare Nostrum, Vatican, Europe, entire planet, or something
> else.
>
> Also, what defines "the State"? Mussolini, The Grand Council of
> Fascism,
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Council_of_Fascism>
> Parliament, various ministers, courts, military, etc. If any two of
> these would disagreed, would they both be "against the state"?
>
> Mussolini tried to clarify this in 1932:
> "The Doctrine of Fascism"
> <https://www.wm.edu/offices/auxiliary/osher/course-info/classnotes/thedoctrineoffascismedited.pdf>
> I have some opinions about this document, but I don't want to get into
> yet another endless political discussion.
>
>> [1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
>> to form a government, as the many and varied political
>> parties could not form a governing coalition
>
>
> Drivel: I bought myself a new pair of work boots:
> <https://www.wolverine.com/US/en/hellcat-ultraspring-6-inch-carbonmax-work-boot/194713313141.html>
> I've been wearing them around the house to break them in. On my way
> down the wooden stairs, I did an un-impressive slip and fall on the
> green slime growing on the stairs. New shoe soles tend to be VERY
> slippery. Nothing broken or damaged, but the hard landing will
> probably produce a few bruises. I'll be painting the stairs with
> vinegar when it stops raining (probably Thursday).
>
We agree. Everyone claims to know it when they see it but
precise definitions are elusive. Then and now.

Empathy on your fall. This time of year I'm in rubber
overshoes. Except one early morning at the beginning of
January...
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/23/2024 8:23 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> Drivel: I bought myself a new pair of work boots:
> <https://www.wolverine.com/US/en/hellcat-ultraspring-6-inch-carbonmax-work-boot/194713313141.html>
> I've been wearing them around the house to break them in. On my way
> down the wooden stairs, I did an un-impressive slip and fall on the
> green slime growing on the stairs. New shoe soles tend to be VERY
> slippery. Nothing broken or damaged, but the hard landing will
> probably produce a few bruises. I'll be painting the stairs with
> vinegar when it stops raining (probably Thursday).

I had one of those falls a few weeks ago, also on wet wooden steps (my
porch) and also with relatively new boots. A friend had just arrived to
hike with me, so it was somewhat embarrassing, but there was no real
harm other than the most minor bruise.

But I took it as a warning and bought some adhesive traction strips
(grit applied to fabric) made for that purpose. I got a pack of eight,
IIRC, each about 1" x 8". I applied them carefully about an inch inboard
from the edge of each step.

Within about a week the adhesive was failing. So I added a few brads to
each strip to hold them in place. That strategy failed too. I'll have to
look for alternatives.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 1/23/2024 8:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
>>>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
>>
> We agree.  Everyone claims to know it when they see it but precise
> definitions are elusive. Then and now.

It's remarkably similar to certain fools on this forum calling all of
their adversaries "communists" or "socialists."

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 12:15:41 AM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
> >> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
> >> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
> >
> > It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
> > of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
> > Here are some possible definitions:
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
> > I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
> > commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
> > my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
> > that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
> > specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
> > "A New Kind of Fascism"
> > <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
> > If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
> > certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
> > brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
> > he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
> >
> > Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
> > afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
> > start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
> > fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.
> >
> Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
> Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
> Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
> "Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
> Nothing is against the State."
>
> [1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
> to form a government, as the many and varied political
> parties could not form a governing coalition
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
Mussolini's corporatism is still the best definition of fascism available. It also matched Il Duce's practice in every particular. Note also that Hitler's political party was called the National Socialist Party, acronymmically NAZI, and that important institutions made their members swear personal fealty to The Leader, der Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler. This is corporatism in action, with the tweak that der Fuhrer *is* the State. Stalin, who between 1937 (the Yeshovchina, the killing of, among others, 3000 Chekists of the rank of Colonel and above, called in Russia the "Murder of the Murderers") and his death was wildly popular with the common people of the USSR, wasn't an intellectual, so he had no slogan-like catchphrases for his instinctive outlook (he himself said that Lenin was the greatest sloganeer in history, a bit over the top but near enough for government work; Stalin's own best work was the radio broadcasts during WWII, in which he took a tip from Hitler in his reiteration of "the Rodina", the Motherland) but his practice was corporatism even more intense than Mussolini's, though of course he would probably have preferred calling it statism. China under the Communists is another corporate entity, and there is no doubt in my mind that Mr Xi, like all his predecessors, is a fascist. Cancel culture anywhere is a fascist movement: Nothing against the Left, nothing undestroyed outside the Left (don't bother looking that up, Slow Johnny -- I just invented the slogan to fit their actions).
>
As for Trudeau being a Fascist, he'd probably like to be, and keeps trying, but in the long run it will turn out that he's an over-age momma's boy, and his mother had the balls in that entire family.
>
Andre Jute
President Trump as a Fascist? Thanks for the giggle, illiterates!
>

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 8:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
>>>>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
>>>
>> We agree.  Everyone claims to know it when they see it but precise
>> definitions are elusive. Then and now.
>
> It's remarkably similar to certain fools on this forum calling all of
> their adversaries "communists" or "socialists."
>

Very much so! Though socialist isn’t really a term of abuse in Europe, and
Communist fairly hard to find frankly having its heyday early part of last
century.

Roger Merriman

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:23:27 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:15:38 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>>On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>>>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>>>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>>>
>>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
>>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
>>> Here are some possible definitions:
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
>>> I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
>>> commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
>>> my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
>>> that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
>>> specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
>>> "A New Kind of Fascism"
>>> <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
>>> If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
>>> certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
>>> brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
>>> he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
>>>
>>> Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
>>> afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
>>> start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
>>> fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.
>
>>Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
>>Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
>>Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
>>"Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
>>Nothing is against the State."
>
>That's not a good definition until the boundaries of the state are
>clearly defined. One can't claim that "Everything is in the State"
>without defining "everything". Is it everything within the
>government, country borders, empire, 3 mile limit, National Fascist
>party, Mare Nostrum, Vatican, Europe, entire planet, or something
>else.
>
>Also, what defines "the State"? Mussolini, The Grand Council of
>Fascism,
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Council_of_Fascism>
>Parliament, various ministers, courts, military, etc. If any two of
>these would disagreed, would they both be "against the state"?
>
>Mussolini tried to clarify this in 1932:
>"The Doctrine of Fascism"
><https://www.wm.edu/offices/auxiliary/osher/course-info/classnotes/thedoctrineoffascismedited.pdf>
>I have some opinions about this document, but I don't want to get into
>yet another endless political discussion.
>
>>[1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
>>to form a government, as the many and varied political
>>parties could not form a governing coalition
>
>
>Drivel: I bought myself a new pair of work boots:
><https://www.wolverine.com/US/en/hellcat-ultraspring-6-inch-carbonmax-work-boot/194713313141.html>
>I've been wearing them around the house to break them in. On my way
>down the wooden stairs, I did an un-impressive slip and fall on the
>green slime growing on the stairs. New shoe soles tend to be VERY
>slippery. Nothing broken or damaged, but the hard landing will
>probably produce a few bruises. I'll be painting the stairs with
>vinegar when it stops raining (probably Thursday).

Lucky that there was no damage. When I fall, I usually do damage. I
recently got up too fast from the Catrike and passed out again. I must
have drug my right ankle over something sharp or jagged like I did a
few years ago. It'll add to the scars running down my shin from that
earlier episode.

My daily small dose aspirin made it look far worse than it was after
an hour of riding back to my truck, so when I got home I got another
lecture from my wife about my carelessness. Spending a minute or so
sitting up from the reclining position before I stand up seems to deal
with the problem, but sometimes I'm in a hurry. I drink a lot of water
on my rides.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:40:15 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiultra1@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>President Trump as a Fascist? Thanks for the giggle, illiterates!

It seems to me that Trudeau in Canada and Biden in the USA are
exerting far more effort to control what their citizens say, hear, do
and posess than Trump.

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> On 1/23/2024 8:23 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> Drivel: I bought myself a new pair of work boots:
>> <https://www.wolverine.com/US/en/hellcat-ultraspring-6-inch-carbonmax-work-boot/194713313141.html>
>> I've been wearing them around the house to break them in. On my way
>> down the wooden stairs, I did an un-impressive slip and fall on the
>> green slime growing on the stairs. New shoe soles tend to be VERY
>> slippery. Nothing broken or damaged, but the hard landing will
>> probably produce a few bruises. I'll be painting the stairs with
>> vinegar when it stops raining (probably Thursday).
>
> I had one of those falls a few weeks ago, also on wet wooden steps (my
> porch) and also with relatively new boots. A friend had just arrived
> to hike with me, so it was somewhat embarrassing, but there was no
> real harm other than the most minor bruise.
>
> But I took it as a warning and bought some adhesive traction strips
> (grit applied to fabric) made for that purpose. I got a pack of eight,
> IIRC, each about 1" x 8". I applied them carefully about an inch
> inboard from the edge of each step.
>
> Within about a week the adhesive was failing. So I added a few brads
> to each strip to hold them in place. That strategy failed too. I'll
> have to look for alternatives.

In my experience the 3M safety tape lasts quite well (multiple years
outdoors).

--

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 3:22:29 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
> >>> share this, just happened:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
> >>>
> >>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
> >>> intends to appeal.
> >>> --
> >>> Andrew Muzi
> >>> a...@yellowjersey.org
> >>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>
> >> Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians allow him to remain in power.
> >
> > The facts are that some years ago
> >
> > Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
> > has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
> > aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
> > condemn Trump’s candidacy.
> >
> > “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
> > “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
> >
> > This article is more than 7 years old
> > Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
> > This article is more than 7 years old
> >
> > Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
> > Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump
> >
> > Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
> > has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
> > aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
> > condemn Trump’s candidacy.
> >
> > “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
> > “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
> >
> > Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
> > Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
> > shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
> > the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
> > two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
> > of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
> > before that election.”
> >
> Which is relevant to what exactly? Canada is much smaller
> than USA so there are understandably a smaller number of
> wackos (different in quantity but not necessarily quality).
>
> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Slocomb is deteriorating rapidly and it is plain that the dementia is taking over.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 5:32:08 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 7:23 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:15:38 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/23/2024 5:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:22:26 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
> >>>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
> >>>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
> >>>
> >>> It's rather difficult to call someone a fascist because the definition
> >>> of the term tends to be very broad and a moving target.
> >>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=is+donald+trump+a+fascist>
> >>> Here are some possible definitions:
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism>
> >>> I skimmed most of the long list of definitions and found minimal
> >>> commonality between them. As I see it, anyone who fails to agree with
> >>> my politics must therefore be a fascist. Skimming various articles
> >>> that accuse Donald Trump of being a fascist and conveniently leave out
> >>> specifics or invent their own definition. For example:
> >>> "A New Kind of Fascism"
> >>> <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/trump-second-term-isolationist-fascism/674791/>
> >>> If we apply a rigorous definition of fascist, then Donald Trump is
> >>> certainly not a genuine fascist. However, if we use the broad paint
> >>> brush found in most such accusations, he's a fascist primarily because
> >>> he has done something that others have found disagreeable.
> >>>
> >>> Enough politics for today. I'll be busy spending the rest of the
> >>> afternoon troubleshooting my emergency generator which refuses to
> >>> start. Probably water in the fuel and carburetor. It must be a
> >>> fascist generator. Hopefully, I won't need to lift anything heavy.
> >
> >> Let's consult an expert. Newspaper editor[1] Benito
> >> Mussolini, who invented Fascism from the ruins of the
> >> Futurist movement, said clearly and often of Fascism,
> >> "Everything is in the State. Nothing is outside the State.
> >> Nothing is against the State."
> >
> > That's not a good definition until the boundaries of the state are
> > clearly defined. One can't claim that "Everything is in the State"
> > without defining "everything". Is it everything within the
> > government, country borders, empire, 3 mile limit, National Fascist
> > party, Mare Nostrum, Vatican, Europe, entire planet, or something
> > else.
> >
> > Also, what defines "the State"? Mussolini, The Grand Council of
> > Fascism,
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Council_of_Fascism>
> > Parliament, various ministers, courts, military, etc. If any two of
> > these would disagreed, would they both be "against the state"?
> >
> > Mussolini tried to clarify this in 1932:
> > "The Doctrine of Fascism"
> > <https://www.wm.edu/offices/auxiliary/osher/course-info/classnotes/thedoctrineoffascismedited.pdf>
> > I have some opinions about this document, but I don't want to get into
> > yet another endless political discussion.
> >
> >> [1] Until the King called him on the telephone and asked him
> >> to form a government, as the many and varied political
> >> parties could not form a governing coalition
> >
> >
> > Drivel: I bought myself a new pair of work boots:
> > <https://www.wolverine.com/US/en/hellcat-ultraspring-6-inch-carbonmax-work-boot/194713313141.html>
> > I've been wearing them around the house to break them in. On my way
> > down the wooden stairs, I did an un-impressive slip and fall on the
> > green slime growing on the stairs. New shoe soles tend to be VERY
> > slippery. Nothing broken or damaged, but the hard landing will
> > probably produce a few bruises. I'll be painting the stairs with
> > vinegar when it stops raining (probably Thursday).
> >
> We agree. Everyone claims to know it when they see it but
> precise definitions are elusive. Then and now.
>
> Empathy on your fall. This time of year I'm in rubber
> overshoes. Except one early morning at the beginning of
> January...
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I think that it is too bad that he didn't break his neck and end up in the hospital for the next 4 months.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:27:51 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>I think that it is too bad that he didn't break his neck
>and end up in the hospital for the next 4 months.

Sorry, not this time. While going down the stairs, I received an
anonymous text message suggesting that I should "watch my step". I
wrongly assumed that this was in reference to my comments in RBT. I
didn't considered that I should take the warning literally. It the
warning came from someone in RBT, please be more specific the next
time.

Please note that I've been going up and down my stairs for 51 years
and have never slipped sufficiently to produce a fall. What is
different this time is that I simultaneously experienced the annual
green slime growth on the stairs and new shoes. When I tried to get
up, I slipped again. It was almost as bad as walking on ice in street
shoes. If I had been wearing my usual work boots, nothing would have
happened.

The stairs are Douglas fir wood and attaching 3M safety tape is not
going work on wood:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/g1b1R5xtsBS53eCr8>
I slipped on the last few steps near the bottom.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:23:12 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 3:22:29?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/23/2024 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
>> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> >>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
>> >>> share this, just happened:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
>> >>>
>> >>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
>> >>> intends to appeal.
>> >>> --
>> >>> Andrew Muzi
>> >>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>> >>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> >>
>> >> Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians allow him to remain in power.
>> >
>> > The facts are that some years ago
>> >
>> > Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>> > has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>> > aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>> > condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>> >
>> > “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>> > “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>> >
>> > This article is more than 7 years old
>> > Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
>> > This article is more than 7 years old
>> >
>> > Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
>> > Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump
>> >
>> > Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>> > has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>> > aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>> > condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>> >
>> > “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>> > “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>> >
>> > Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
>> > Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
>> > shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
>> > the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
>> > two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
>> > of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
>> > before that election.”
>> >
>> Which is relevant to what exactly? Canada is much smaller
>> than USA so there are understandably a smaller number of
>> wackos (different in quantity but not necessarily quality).
>>
>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
>Slocomb is deteriorating rapidly and it is plain that the dementia is taking over.

By Gorry! You are right! Assuming, of course, that your definition of
dementia is not believing a single word that Tommy posts.
--
Cheers,

John B.

John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:23:12 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 3:22:29?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2024 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
>>>>>> share this, just happened:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
>>>>>> intends to appeal.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>>>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>>>
>>>>> Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians
>>>>> allow him to remain in power.
>>>>
>>>> The facts are that some years ago
>>>>
>>>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>>>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>>>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>>>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>>>>
>>>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>>>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>>>>
>>>> This article is more than 7 years old
>>>> Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
>>>> This article is more than 7 years old
>>>>
>>>> Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
>>>> Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump
>>>>
>>>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
>>>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
>>>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
>>>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
>>>>
>>>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
>>>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
>>>>
>>>> Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
>>>> Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
>>>> shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
>>>> the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
>>>> two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
>>>> of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
>>>> before that election.”
>>>>
>>> Which is relevant to what exactly? Canada is much smaller
>>> than USA so there are understandably a smaller number of
>>> wackos (different in quantity but not necessarily quality).
>>>
>>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
>>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
>>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muzi
>>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>
>> Slocomb is deteriorating rapidly and it is plain that the dementia is taking over.
>
>
> By Gorry! You are right! Assuming, of course, that your definition of
> dementia is not believing a single word that Tommy posts.

If he’s had concussion like he said enough to cause epilepsy ie he’s on
medication then his risk of dementia is raised, even more for myself
clearly.

Roger Merriman

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 3:17:18 AM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:23:12 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 3:22:29?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 1/23/2024 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:28:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 12:19:44?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>>> Since there's nothing going on today regarding bicycles I'll
> >>>>>> share this, just happened:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But hope is not rectification. Mr Trudeau's government
> >>>>>> intends to appeal.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Andrew Muzi
> >>>>>> a...@yellowjersey.org
> >>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Trudeau is nothing more than a Fascist. I cannot see how Canadians
> >>>>> allow him to remain in power.
> >>>>
> >>>> The facts are that some years ago
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
> >>>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
> >>>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
> >>>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
> >>>>
> >>>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
> >>>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
> >>>>
> >>>> This article is more than 7 years old
> >>>> Canadian party leader Thomas Mulcair calls Donald Trump a 'fascist'
> >>>> This article is more than 7 years old
> >>>>
> >>>> Opposition New Democrats leader: ‘Let’s not beat around the bush’
> >>>> Mulcair attacks Justin Trudeau for not speaking out on Trump
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom Mulcair, the leader of Canada’s progressive New Democratic party,
> >>>> has called Republican frontrunner Donald Trump a “fascist”, and taken
> >>>> aim at Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, for refusing to
> >>>> condemn Trump’s candidacy.
> >>>>
> >>>> “Donald Trump is a fascist,” Mulcair said at an event last week.
> >>>> “Let’s not kid ourselves, let’s not beat around the bush.”
> >>>>
> >>>> Mulcair also attacked Trudeau’s reticence to speak frankly about
> >>>> Trump. “I will not hesitate to point out the fact that Mr Trudeau just
> >>>> shrugs his shoulders when he’s asked about Donald Trump and says, ‘Oh
> >>>> the relationship between Canada and the United States goes beyond any
> >>>> two individuals,’” he said. “I’m sorry, if a fascist becomes president
> >>>> of the United States, I want to be on record as having opposed it long
> >>>> before that election.”
> >>>>
> >>> Which is relevant to what exactly? Canada is much smaller
> >>> than USA so there are understandably a smaller number of
> >>> wackos (different in quantity but not necessarily quality).
> >>>
> >>> I probably should not engage your subject but, since you
> >>> repeated it above, could you cite some fascists policy Mr
> >>> Trump instituted in USA? Maybe I missed that.
> >>> --
> >>> Andrew Muzi
> >>> a...@yellowjersey.org
> >>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>
> >> Slocomb is deteriorating rapidly and it is plain that the dementia is taking over.
> >
> >
> > By Gorry! You are right! Assuming, of course, that your definition of
> > dementia is not believing a single word that Tommy posts.
> If he’s had concussion like he said enough to cause epilepsy ie he’s on
> medication then his risk of dementia is raised, even more for myself
> clearly.
>
> Roger Merriman

Roger, epilepsy-like seizures and it adds no increased risk of dementia. They were similar only in the fact that I could not remember the seizure after it passed. The medication has absolutely NO side effects concerning dementia.