On 1/19/2024 11:29 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/19/2024 9:44 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>
>> Back to the original issue, I strongly doubt that several
>> millions dead of his own people and/or foreigners would
>> give Mr Xi pause in deploying a more lethal bioweapon
>> shortly.
>
> It's weird to call COVID a Chinese "bioweapon." What would
> be the logic of releasing a "bioweapon" that had such
> terrible effects on the Chinese economy? See
> https://www.chinacenter.net/2023/china-currents/22-1/the-covid-19-pandemics-impact-on-the-chinese-economy/
>

Explain Holmodor and you'll understand better.
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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 09:35:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 6:41:29?AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/18/2024 11:36 PM, John B. wrote:
>> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 20:50:12 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:50:52?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> >>> On 1/18/2024 5:08 PM, John B. wrote:
>> >>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:13:15 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/17/2024 7:43 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
>> >>>>>> This could have no justification except as a bio-weapon.
>> >>>>>> https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/01/17/the-chinese-have-cooked-up-another-covid-strain-thats-beyond-irresponsible-n2633738
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Makes me wonder if the Chinese can really be so stupid that they don't understand that their current economic problems, just like those in the rest of the world, stem from the Chinese COVID Pandemic. To make such a gross mistake twice...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Andre Jute
>> >>>>>> Horrified
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Stalin had no problem with 6~8 million dead in Holmodor to
>> >>>>> consolidate political power. Pol Pot exterminated about 1/3
>> >>>>> of all Cambodians the same. Mao's Great Leap Forward removed
>> >>>>> some 30 million 'useless mouths' from the population. So
>> >>>>> far Xi has only brought economic decline and a moderate
>> >>>>> death toll. The purge of his high ranking CCP enemies
>> >>>>> continues. This is still a work in progress.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Not to forget the acts of the Holy Roman Church with their Holy Wars,
>> >>>> Crusades and Inquisition.
>> >>>> Deaths in the Crusades, for example, were estimated to be from 2 to 6
>> >>>> million from Western Europe during a period when the population of
>> >>>> Western Europe was 60 to 70 million. From 3 - 10% of the Western
>> >>>> European population.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Wait for Part Two:
>> >>>>> https://nypost.com/2024/01/16/news/covid-19-strain-kills-100-of-infected-mice-in-chinese-lab-study/
>> >>> European crusades were not unlike any nation or empire of
>> >>> the period. Also note that the first began as the formerly
>> >>> benign caliphate began persecuting robbing, killing pilgrims
>> >>> to Jerusalem. No draft either, willing volunteers,
>> >>> qualified and useful or not.
>> >>>
>> >>> And I've explained the Spanish Inquisition here previously.
>> >>> Following the Protestant trend in Northern Europe, some 1/3
>> >>> of German speaking people were killed in sectarian conflict.
>> >>> The King of Spain said, "Not here'.
>> >>>
>> >>> Nice? A model for us? Defensible? No, but not just out of
>> >>> the blue either.
>> >>>
>> >>> p.s. The interested reader may find a brief review of moslem
>> >>> conquest, slavery and religious persecution enlightening.
>> >>> --
>> >>> Andrew Muzi
>> >>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>> >>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> >> John looks up stuff on google and believes it to be true. He never read any books explaining the Crusades because that would have meant he had to actually read something written by experts on the subject. And horror of horrors if he should listen to an expert on anything. This is why he retired as a Master Sargant.
>> >>
>> >> The Crusaders protected the pilgrims going and returning from the holy land. They built castles (one of which is still standing I believe) and fortresses to protect the routes to and from Nazareth. They did not kill indiscriminately but usually thieves and robbers along the route and made treaties with what are now called 'Palestinians' To allow Pilgrims access to the Holy Land. This was a benefit to the local authorities since the pilgrims were relatively rich and the locals relatively poor.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Oh, I guess I didn't understand. After all the Crusaders killed the
>> > entire population of Jerusalem, as many as 40,000 people, and blood
>> > was said to be ankle deep in the streets, after conquering the city in
>> > 1099.
>> >
>> > And this was to protect the pilgrims?
>> Yes that happened[1].
>> One battle in a few hundred years with extreme examples on
>> both sides as strength, resources and strategy rose and
>> fell. Culminating in Vienna and Lepanto after which a sort
>> of detente (except for the Armenians).
>>
>> https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/armenian-genocide
>>
>>
>> [1] One might make the same argument about Japanese children
>> who burned to death in Curtis LeMay's firebombings which
>> were much more lethal than the two atom bombings combined. I
>> wouldn't make that argument but you might.
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
>"At the Council of Piacenza in 1095, Pope Urban II received envoys from Byzantine Emperor Alexios I asking Western Christians for assistance in liberating large parts of the Eastern Roman Empire from the Seljuk Turks who had conquered large parts of the region since 1070."
>
>This means that both the Crusaders and the Eastern Roman Empire attacked Jerusalem together to rid themselves of the Turks. Unlike Slocomb's statements that the entire population of Jerusalem was exterminated. Medieval warfare was not a controlled warfare like WW II which itself had rather extreme crimes committed by both sides. Slocomb simply cannot keep himself from saying stupid things. The Battle of Jerusalem only lasted a month and a half in a time when sieges commonly lasted years. I wonder that Slocomb isn't developing Alzheimer's.

As usual Tommy gets it wrong again.

First foolishness:
The Council of Piacenza was a mixed synod of ecclesiastics and laymen
of the Roman Catholic Church, which took place from March 1 to March
7, 1095, at Piacenza. The Council was held at the end of Pope Urban
II's tour of Italy and France, which he made to reassert his authority
after the investiture controversy with Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor.

Ambassadors sent by Byzantine emperor Alexius I Komnenos. Alexius had
been excommunicated by Gregory VII, and been through a series of
reinstatements in the Church, but Urban had ultimately lifted the
excommunication when he became pope in 1088. The Byzantine Empire had
lost much of its territory in Asia Minor to the Seljuk Turks in the
aftermath of the Battle of Manzikert in 1071, and Alexius hoped
Western knights could help him restore it.

Nope, no reference to any help in the Holy Land, quite the opposite,
the Byzantine's wanted help in their territory.

Second Foolishness:
Led by Raymond of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Robert of Flanders,
and Bohemond of Otranto, the army of Christian knights crossed into
Asia Minor in 1097.

Christian knights from Europe capture Jerusalem after seven weeks of
siege. On July 14, Godfrey’s men were the first to penetrate the
defenses, and the Gate of Saint Stephen was opened. The rest of the
knights and soldiers then poured in, the city was captured, and tens
of thousands of its occupants were slaughtered.

You know Tommy you don't have to be a dumb ass. You could do a little
research instead of simply opening you mouth and proving to the world
how stupid you really are.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 09:32:58 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/19/2024 9:26 AM, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 08:41:25 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/18/2024 11:36 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 20:50:12 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 3:50:52?PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/18/2024 5:08 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:13:15 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/17/2024 7:43 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
>>>>>>>>> This could have no justification except as a bio-weapon.
>>>>>>>>> https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/01/17/the-chinese-have-cooked-up-another-covid-strain-thats-beyond-irresponsible-n2633738
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Makes me wonder if the Chinese can really be so stupid that they don't understand that their current economic problems, just like those in the rest of the world, stem from the Chinese COVID Pandemic. To make such a gross mistake twice...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andre Jute
>>>>>>>>> Horrified
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stalin had no problem with 6~8 million dead in Holmodor to
>>>>>>>> consolidate political power. Pol Pot exterminated about 1/3
>>>>>>>> of all Cambodians the same. Mao's Great Leap Forward removed
>>>>>>>> some 30 million 'useless mouths' from the population. So
>>>>>>>> far Xi has only brought economic decline and a moderate
>>>>>>>> death toll. The purge of his high ranking CCP enemies
>>>>>>>> continues. This is still a work in progress.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to forget the acts of the Holy Roman Church with their Holy Wars,
>>>>>>> Crusades and Inquisition.
>>>>>>> Deaths in the Crusades, for example, were estimated to be from 2 to 6
>>>>>>> million from Western Europe during a period when the population of
>>>>>>> Western Europe was 60 to 70 million. From 3 - 10% of the Western
>>>>>>> European population.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wait for Part Two:
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2024/01/16/news/covid-19-strain-kills-100-of-infected-mice-in-chinese-lab-study/
>>>>>> European crusades were not unlike any nation or empire of
>>>>>> the period. Also note that the first began as the formerly
>>>>>> benign caliphate began persecuting robbing, killing pilgrims
>>>>>> to Jerusalem. No draft either, willing volunteers,
>>>>>> qualified and useful or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I've explained the Spanish Inquisition here previously.
>>>>>> Following the Protestant trend in Northern Europe, some 1/3
>>>>>> of German speaking people were killed in sectarian conflict.
>>>>>> The King of Spain said, "Not here'.

How strange as https://www.britannica.com/topic/Spanish-Inquisition
has it a bit different:
"Spanish Inquisition, (1478–1834), judicial institution ostensibly
established to combat heresy in Spain. In practice, the Spanish
Inquisition served to consolidate power in the monarchy of the newly
unified Spanish kingdom, but it achieved that end through infamously
brutal methods."

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice? A model for us? Defensible? No, but not just out of
>>>>>> the blue either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.s. The interested reader may find a brief review of moslem
>>>>>> conquest, slavery and religious persecution enlightening.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>>>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>>> John looks up stuff on google and believes it to be true. He never read any books explaining the Crusades because that would have meant he had to actually read something written by experts on the subject. And horror of horrors if he should listen to an expert on anything. This is why he retired as a Master Sargant.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Crusaders protected the pilgrims going and returning from the holy land. They built castles (one of which is still standing I believe) and fortresses to protect the routes to and from Nazareth. They did not kill indiscriminately but usually thieves and robbers along the route and made treaties with what are now called 'Palestinians' To allow Pilgrims access to the Holy Land. This was a benefit to the local authorities since the pilgrims were relatively rich and the locals relatively poor.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I guess I didn't understand. After all the Crusaders killed the
>>>> entire population of Jerusalem, as many as 40,000 people, and blood
>>>> was said to be ankle deep in the streets, after conquering the city in
>>>> 1099.
>>>>
>>>> And this was to protect the pilgrims?
>>>
>>> Yes that happened[1].
>>> One battle in a few hundred years with extreme examples on
>>> both sides as strength, resources and strategy rose and
>>> fell. Culminating in Vienna and Lepanto after which a sort
>>> of detente (except for the Armenians).
>>>
>>> https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/armenian-genocide
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] One might make the same argument about Japanese children
>>> who burned to death in Curtis LeMay's firebombings which
>>> were much more lethal than the two atom bombings combined. I
>>> wouldn't make that argument but you might.
>>
>> That was in direct response to Tommy's assertion that the Crusader
>> were really just good guys They weren't. They grabbed land and started
>> kingdoms, just like people did in the rest of the world. The Knights
>> Templar were started primarily to guard and help pilgrims that were
>> ignored by the bulk of the Crusaders.
>
>
>Yes and especially regarding the Templars, who are a prime
>example of a wronged group in world history.
>
>https://www.history.com/news/why-friday-the-13th-spelled-doom-for-the-knights-templar
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 3:18:14 AM UTC, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 19:22:16 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >
> >How did Le Terrore work out? No different from any other
> >communist regime.
> Actually not very well and the end result was Neapolitan
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.
>
All right, Slow Johnny, prove that the "end result" of the French Revolution was ice cream.
>
Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for smug stupidity.
>

On 1/19/2024 4:53 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 3:18:14 AM UTC, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 19:22:16 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> How did Le Terrore work out? No different from any other
>>> communist regime.
>> Actually not very well and the end result was Neapolitan
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>>
> All right, Slow Johnny, prove that the "end result" of the French Revolution was ice cream.
>>
> Andre Jute
> Zero tolerance for smug stupidity.
>>
apologies for the lapsis digitis.
La Terreur
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 1:43:25 AM UTC, Andre Jute wrote:
> This could have no justification except as a bio-weapon.
> https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/01/17/the-chinese-have-cooked-up-another-covid-strain-thats-beyond-irresponsible-n2633738
> >
> Makes me wonder if the Chinese can really be so stupid that they don't understand that their current economic problems, just like those in the rest of the world, stem from the Chinese COVID Pandemic. To make such a gross mistake twice...
> >
> Andre Jute
> Horrified
> >
BUMP --

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 2:53:10 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 3:18:14 AM UTC, John B. wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 19:22:16 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >How did Le Terrore work out? No different from any other
> > >communist regime.
> > Actually not very well and the end result was Neapolitan
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John B.
> >
> All right, Slow Johnny, prove that the "end result" of the French Revolution was ice cream.
> >
> Andre Jute
> Zero tolerance for smug stupidity.
> >

Slocomb is indeed leaving an impression but it isn't what he thinks.