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 by: Mandryka - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:07 UTC

A favourite pianist of mine in Bartok’s Mikrokosmos 5 and 6 and the sonatas with Pauk. I love his fresh interpretation of Liszt’s Années Bk 1, and I think his small form Schubert is well worth a listen too. There may be other fabulous recordings I don’t know about, if so, please say.

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 by: Andy Evans - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:11 UTC

On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 09:07:58 UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> A favourite pianist of mine in Bartok’s Mikrokosmos 5 and 6 and the sonatas with Pauk. I love his fresh interpretation of Liszt’s Années Bk 1, and I think his small form Schubert is well worth a listen too. There may be other fabulous recordings I don’t know about, if so, please say.

I liked him. He was a bit type-cast with Naxos as a cheap way to buy recordings but he was bigger than that.

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 by: Mandryka - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:11 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 9:07:58 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
> A favourite pianist of mine in Bartok’s Mikrokosmos 5 and 6 and the sonatas with Pauk. I love his fresh interpretation of Liszt’s Années Bk 1, and I think his small form Schubert is well worth a listen too. There may be other fabulous recordings I don’t know about, if so, please say.

Jeno of course, not Jene - as per the title. In fact Jenő. I blame autocorrect!

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:16 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 1:07:58 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
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> A favourite pianist of mine in Bartok’s Mikrokosmos 5
> and 6 and the sonatas with Pauk. I love his fresh
> interpretation of Liszt’s Années Bk 1, and I think
> his small form Schubert is well worth a listen too.

Sorry to hear. Jando is/was certainly underrated.

> There may be other fabulous recordings I don’t
> know about, if so, please say.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHeivSBh8nrGmFmX3T1lTkg

Also note Jenő Jandó was Jewish.

dk

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 by: Herman - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:23 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:16:54 AM UTC+2, Dan Koren wrote:
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> Also note Jenő Jandó was Jewish.
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> dk

We also need to note henceforth all other ethnic and religious details about a n y b o d y, so as to assuage the racist preoccupations of certain individuals.

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:28 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 1:23:07 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:16:54 AM UTC+2, Dan Koren wrote:
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> > Also note Jenő Jandó was Jewish.
>
> We also need to note henceforth all
> other ethnic and religious details

Being Jewish is not a "religion".

While it may not be of interest
to you to know this, it may be
of interest to other people.

Even anti-semites like you tend
to know this, don't you think?

I also did not notice you or
anyone else getting upset
when Juan mentions Arrau
was Chilean. Would you be
equally upset if I mentioned
Marie Novello was Welsh?

dk

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 by: HT - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:51 UTC

Op woensdag 5 juli 2023 om 10:07:58 UTC+2 schreef Mandryka:
> A favourite pianist of mine in Bartok’s Mikrokosmos 5 and 6 and the sonatas with Pauk. I love his fresh interpretation of Liszt’s Années Bk 1, and I think his small form Schubert is well worth a listen too. There may be other fabulous recordings I don’t know about, if so, please say.

May he rest in peace. He was a great professional, and sometimes far more. In particular in Bartok.

Henk

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From: christophjohansen@mailservice.invalid (Chris J.)
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 by: Chris J. - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:54 UTC

On 5 Jul 2023 Dan Koren wrote:

> Being Jewish is not a "religion".

It's complicated...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_identity

....but irrelevant, as classical recordings is what this newsgroup should
be about.

> I also did not notice you or anyone else getting upset when Juan
> mentions Arrau was Chilean.

"Jando was Hungarian" would be the appropriate analogy, not "Jando was
Jewish".

On topic: I've always liked the Naxos recording of Schumann's piano
quintet with Jando and the Kodály Quartet.

Chris

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Subject: Re: Jene Jando has died
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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:02 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 1:54:59 AM UTC-7, Chris J. wrote:
> On 5 Jul 2023 Dan Koren wrote:
>
> > Being Jewish is not a "religion".
> It's complicated...

I did not claim it wasn't.

> ...but irrelevant, as classical recordings
> is what this newsgroup should be about.

Political Correctness (TM) censorship?
What matters to one person may not
matter to another.

> > I also did not notice you or anyone else
> > getting upset when Juan mentions Arrau
> > was Chilean. "Jando was Hungarian" would
> > be the appropriate analogy, not "Jando was
> > Jewish".

"Appropriate" in what way? Don't wake up the
audience? In case you didn't notice, everyone
knows Jando was Hungarian. Many people
however don't know he was also Jewish.

Which "half" is more important varies by
person.

Now go back to your corner.

dk

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 by: Andy Evans - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:03 UTC

On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 09:54:59 UTC+1, Chris J. wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_identity
>
> ...but irrelevant, as classical recordings is what this newsgroup should
> be about.
> > I also did not notice you or anyone else getting upset when Juan
> > mentions Arrau was Chilean.
> "Jando was Hungarian" would be the appropriate analogy, not "Jando was
> Jewish".
> Chris

This is in fact 2 newsgroups:
rec.music.classical.recordings
rec.music.classical.recordings.jewish

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 by: Herman - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:16 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:02:59 AM UTC+2, Dan Koren wrote:
>
>
> Now go back to your corner.
>
> dk

RMCR owner speaking,
as usual in the imperative.

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 by: Andy Evans - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:19 UTC

On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 10:16:07 UTC+1, Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:02:59 AM UTC+2, Dan Koren wrote:
> >
> >
> > Now go back to your corner.
> >
> > dk
> RMCR owner speaking,
> as usual in the imperative.

He usually speaks to cats, so he has to adjust to humans.....

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:34 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 2:19:05 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 10:16:07 UTC+1, Herman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:02:59 AM UTC+2, Dan Koren wrote:
> > >
> > > Now go back to your corner.
> >
> > RMCR owner speaking,
> > as usual in the imperative.
>
> He usually speaks to cats, so
> he has to adjust to humans.....

I do not "speak" to my cats. One
does not speak to cats. The cats
speak to me, typically when they
are unhappy. Cats are goddesses.

This is something "humans" like
you cannot understand.

dk

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 by: JohnGavin - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:35 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 5:19:05 AM UTC-4, Andy Evans wrote:
> On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 10:16:07 UTC+1, Herman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:02:59 AM UTC+2, Dan Koren wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now go back to your corner.
> > >
> > > dk
> > RMCR owner speaking,
> > as usual in the imperative.
> He usually speaks to cats, so he has to adjust to humans.....

I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.

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 by: Herman - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 10:30 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:35:07 AM UTC+2, JohnGavin wrote:
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> I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.

Or women contributors, but obviously that's out of the question.

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 by: Andy Evans - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 10:41 UTC

On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 11:30:25 UTC+1, Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:35:07 AM UTC+2, JohnGavin wrote:
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> > I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.
> Or women contributors, but obviously that's out of the question.

There's always Hard Hearted Hannah, the vamp from Savannah, the meanest girl in town... Leather is tough but Hannah's kind of tougher..... she is the girl that likes to see men suffer.....

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Op woensdag 5 juli 2023 om 11:35:07 UTC+2 schreef JohnGavin:

> I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.

Wishing for more 'identitists'?

Henk

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 by: Andy Evans - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 10:48 UTC

On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 11:44:00 UTC+1, HT wrote:
> Op woensdag 5 juli 2023 om 11:35:07 UTC+2 schreef JohnGavin:
> > I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.
> Wishing for more 'identitists'?
>
> Henk

You have a point there....

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HT schrieb am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 12:44:00 UTC+2:
> Op woensdag 5 juli 2023 om 11:35:07 UTC+2 schreef JohnGavin:
> > I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.
> Wishing for more 'identitists'?

So being Asian is an identity? Not a fact? LOL - Henk, you are ridiculous as ever. Your "philosophy" about "identity" is a big joke. Identity politics is a problem wrt climate change as evidenced by Andy.

You should realize that being Asian and being European is just a fact; ofc growing up in South Korea will affect your identity differently than growing up in Germany. But In a world of nation states it is ludicrous to say one should not identify as a German or Korean or European or Asian... it's just the way it is...

Sometimes - and please don't take this too much to your heart - I just think you are maybe just too old to realize the shit you are often stating... and this I find sad, I wish you could see the nonsense you are saying; otoh you seem to able to think... so... you carry the responsibility for the shit you are stating...

>
> Henk

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HT schrieb am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 12:44:00 UTC+2:
> Op woensdag 5 juli 2023 om 11:35:07 UTC+2 schreef JohnGavin:
> > I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.
> Wishing for more 'identitists'?

Let me ask you: Do you identify as a human?

Seems you are just an "identitist" yourself ;D lol

>
> Henk

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HT schrieb am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 12:44:00 UTC+2:
> Op woensdag 5 juli 2023 om 11:35:07 UTC+2 schreef JohnGavin:
> > I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.
> Wishing for more 'identitists'?

Actually wishing this ng had more Asian contributors is just part of identity politics as well.

Good guy John - who ofc is in no way racist ;) - just wants to show how open he is for other races participating in this NG.

*Virtue signalling*

>
> Henk

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Subject: Re: Jene Jando has died
From: marcs12212@gmail.com (Marc S)
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 by: Marc S - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 11:24 UTC

Marc S schrieb am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 13:13:36 UTC+2:
> HT schrieb am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 12:44:00 UTC+2:
> > Op woensdag 5 juli 2023 om 11:35:07 UTC+2 schreef JohnGavin:
> > > I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.
> > Wishing for more 'identitists'?
> Actually wishing this ng had more Asian contributors is just part of identity politics as well.
>
> Good guy John - who ofc is in no way racist ;) - just wants to show how open he is for other races participating in this NG.
>
> *Virtue signalling*
>
> >
> > Henk

The reason identity politics works so well is because most people have no individuality these days; they are just part of the amorphous mass. Say Herman or Andy; their identity is given to them by the Green and Far-Left politics. Andy identifies as a climate justice warrior obviously - lol ;D and both - as ridiculous as it is - identify as anti-fascists... While in reality they have showcased numerous fascist attitudes themselves...

People like Andy and Herman just follow the herd, because that's all they can do to form some sort of identity (their ego is too weak), they just suck up everything the left and green establishment tells them and then they start to believe themselves - because that's somethign they want to be - to be on the right side, to be the good guys... this all leads to the immature behaviour you can witness with Herman for example, who believes himself to be the "good guy" and calls Frank and Dan "evil" - kind of immature, innit?

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 by: raymond....@gmail.co - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 12:28 UTC

On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 19:35:07 UTC+10, JohnGavin wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 5:19:05 AM UTC-4, Andy Evans wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 10:16:07 UTC+1, Herman wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:02:59 AM UTC+2, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now go back to your corner.
> > > >
> > > > dk
> > > RMCR owner speaking,
> > > as usual in the imperative.
> > He usually speaks to cats, so he has to adjust to humans.....
> I wish this newsgroup had many more Asian contributors.

Less narcissic arseholes would help too. People with a smidgeon of integrity.

Ray Hall, Taree

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On 5 Jul 2023 Andy Evans wrote:

> This is in fact 2 newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings
> rec.music.classical.recordings.jewish

rec.music.classical.recordings.(assigned/chosen)identity?
Soon in this theatre, The Atomization of a Newsgroup?

Chris

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 by: Marc S - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 12:37 UTC

Chris J. schrieb am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 14:34:13 UTC+2:
> On 5 Jul 2023 Andy Evans wrote:
>
> > This is in fact 2 newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings
> > rec.music.classical.recordings.jewish
> rec.music.classical.recordings.(assigned/chosen)identity?
> Soon in this theatre, The Atomization of a Newsgroup?
>
> Chris

Calm your tits dear fellow humans - it was just mentioned that Jando was Jewish. I think it's always interesting to know some background about artists I like (Jando not being one of them...)

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