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On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
>
>> He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh. Can
>> anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
>
> Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
> worked effectively for me before.

Chilli powder too, probably cheaper than white pepper in big bags from
Asian shops. It was one of many experiments before I tried the
ultrasound device.

IME it does deter, and the thought of the little bastards licking their
paws is somewhat pleasing, but it's rainy here in the south west so it
doesn't last.

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On 07/03/2024 00:24, SteveW wrote:

<snip>

> I have never had a cat leave a mess on my drive, on the footpath or (as
> happened frequently with dogs in my youth) on the school foorball pitch.

It was pretty much every day here, on the concrete step just inside the
back gate.

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On 06/03/2024 23:56, JNugent wrote:
> On 06/03/2024 11:51 pm, alan_m wrote:
>
>> On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
>>>> Can
>>>> anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
>>>
>>> Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
>>> worked effectively for me before.
>>
>> All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
>> ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
>>
>> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
>> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
>> indoors all the time is not going to shit on my property.
>
> How would you prove which cat had dropped the offending matter?

At least one Spanish town is using DNA to trace which dog has offended...
.... I assume this would work for cats...

https://time.com/4552903/mislata-spain-dog-feces/

Dave

On 07/03/2024 10:42, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 07/03/2024 00:24, SteveW wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I have never had a cat leave a mess on my drive, on the footpath or
>> (as happened frequently with dogs in my youth) on the school foorball
>> pitch.
>
> It was pretty much every day here, on the concrete step just inside the
> back gate.
>
I never found any cat shit outside the house when I had cats
Either in or near the litter trays, or buried in the soil where it made
excellent fertiliser.

I can only conclude that yiur town cats are seriously mentally disturbed
by 'potty training' and don't do the natural thing.

Or there is simply no soil left they can find.

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On 06/03/2024 22:54, Tim Streater wrote:

>> Why pick on domestic animals?
>
> And the Bodgers, too, who shit all over our lawn and dig holes.

Ewwww that's a whole different league of D.I.Y enthusiasts you have in
your neck of the weeds!

On 7 Mar 2024 at 11:36:57 GMT, ""www.GymRatZ.co.uk"" <noreply@where.cron>
wrote:

> On 06/03/2024 22:54, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>>> Why pick on domestic animals?
>>
>> And the Bodgers, too, who shit all over our lawn and dig holes.
>
> Ewwww that's a whole different league of D.I.Y enthusiasts you have in
> your neck of the weeds!

Year before last the fuckers had all SWMBO's strawbs and sweetcorn. Improved
the fencing since then.

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On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:

> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
> all the time is not going to shit on my property.

BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM HERE-ON-
IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
LETTER ATTACHED!

Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into insignificance
compared to pigeons alone.

THERE'S NO BUTTER IN HELL!

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:36:02 +0000, alan_m wrote:

> I don't have to prove anything

YOU TELL 'EM, SISTER!!

> Rightly, people complain about dog shit but strangely don't think that
> cat shit is an equal problem, especially for those on the receiving end
> of it.

Inspired by your well thought-out arguments, I now feel emboldened to
start an anti-horse-shit campaign because whenever I go for a walk there's
barrow loads of that littering the paths.

On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>
>> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
>> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
>> all the time is not going to shit on my property.
>
> BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM HERE-ON-
> IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
> LETTER ATTACHED!
>
> Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
> to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into insignificance
> compared to pigeons alone.
>
I'll take the hedgehogs. The badgers ate all mine.
What I want to know is who is responsible for all the pigeon duck goose
and jackdaw crap, especially from the jackdaws falling down the chimneys
- the deer that eat everything, and the rabbits hares and foxes digging
fallout shelters everywhere
Not to mention Mr Mole and his atomic command centres under my lawns...

> THERE'S NO BUTTER IN HELL!

Isn't there? that must make the frying less than healthy.

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On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:39:00 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote:

> Chilli powder too, probably cheaper than white pepper in big bags from
> Asian shops. It was one of many experiments before I tried the
> ultrasound device.

> IME it does deter, and the thought of the little bastards licking their
> paws is somewhat pleasing, but it's rainy here in the south west so it
> doesn't last.

Ha! Well I've only done it a few times (in different places) but I did
make an effort to reapply once or twice a day for a week.

Seems to have worked. There's precious little like the stench of a cooking
cat turd in the greenhouse in midsummer that acts as such a good
motivator!

On 07/03/2024 12:26, David Paste wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:36:02 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>
>> I don't have to prove anything
>
> YOU TELL 'EM, SISTER!!
>
>> Rightly, people complain about dog shit but strangely don't think that
>> cat shit is an equal problem, especially for those on the receiving end
>> of it.
>
> Inspired by your well thought-out arguments, I now feel emboldened to
> start an anti-horse-shit campaign because whenever I go for a walk there's
> barrow loads of that littering the paths.

Bag it fer yer roses!

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look exactly the same afterwards."

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On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>
>> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
>> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
>> all the time is not going to shit on my property.
>
> BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM HERE-ON-
> IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
> LETTER ATTACHED!
>
> Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
> to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into insignificance
> compared to pigeons alone.

I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with
irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
chuck them to defecate where they please.

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On 7 Mar 2024 at 12:34:19 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:

>> Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
>> to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into insignificance
>> compared to pigeons alone.
>
> I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
> a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
> flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with
> irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
> chuck them to defecate where they please.

Could I suggest that you move to somewhere less congested? And demolish your
house beind you as you go so that your present urban area spaces out a bit.

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On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 12:29:11 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> What I want to know is who is responsible for all the pigeon duck goose
> and jackdaw crap, especially from the jackdaws falling down the chimneys
> - the deer that eat everything, and the rabbits hares and foxes digging
> fallout shelters everywhere Not to mention Mr Mole and his atomic
> command centres under my lawns...

The monarch? Or is that just Swans?

>> THERE'S NO BUTTER IN HELL!
>
> Isn't there? that must make the frying less than healthy.

Thy parsnips will be dried out.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 12:34:19 +0000, alan_m wrote:

> I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
> a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
> flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with
> irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
> chuck them to defecate where they please.

No, I'd do something about it because I'm not helpless.

If you went away for a few days and left your windows open, would you
complain if your house had been burgled? No, of course not, you'd chastise
yourself for doing something stupid which is entirely under your control.

What if the cats crappng in your garden are feral? Have no human
custodials? Who do you complain to then? Or do you, as is rational, assume
that a small amount of effort on your behalf could sort out a problem
quite effectively, regardless of who may or may not "own" the crapping
cat?

That your initial idea of complaining to the owner relies implicitly on
assuming that EVERY visiting cat HAS an owner is the flaw in your
hypothesis.

Also, how do you know it's not an urban fox?

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 10:07:13 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 08:20:05 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 21:17:28 +0000
> > JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/03/2024 05:31 pm, alan_m wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'll bet you would be the first to complain if a dog owner let
> >> > their pet shit in your front garden.
> >>
> >> Hereabouts, dogs do not have the right to roam and must be kept on
> >> a lead on the highway or in any other public place.
> >
> > Back when I passed my test, dogs were one of the nine Notifiable
> > Animals, a collision with one having to be reported to the police.
>
> Fark, where was that ?

The UK, as you might expect. Most of the nine were livestock, cows,
horses etc.
>
> > Cats were not.

--
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On 07/03/2024 10:42 am, David Wade wrote:
> On 06/03/2024 23:56, JNugent wrote:
>> On 06/03/2024 11:51 pm, alan_m wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire
>>>>> mesh. Can
>>>>> anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
>>>>
>>>> Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
>>>> worked effectively for me before.
>>>
>>> All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
>>> ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
>>>
>>> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
>>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
>>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
>>> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
>>> indoors all the time is not going to shit on my property.
>>
>> How would you prove which cat had dropped the offending matter?
>
> At least one Spanish town is using DNA to trace which dog has offended...
> ... I assume this would work for cats...
>
> https://time.com/4552903/mislata-spain-dog-feces/

Wouldn't the cat have to be ordered by a court to provide a sample?

On 07/03/2024 12:26 pm, David Paste wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:36:02 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>
>> I don't have to prove anything
>
> YOU TELL 'EM, SISTER!!
>
>> Rightly, people complain about dog shit but strangely don't think that
>> cat shit is an equal problem, especially for those on the receiving end
>> of it.
>
> Inspired by your well thought-out arguments, I now feel emboldened to
> start an anti-horse-shit campaign because whenever I go for a walk there's
> barrow loads of that littering the paths.

Yes... we get some of that outside here now and then (not so much in the
winter).

On 07/03/2024 12:34 pm, alan_m wrote:
> On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>>
>>> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
>>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
>>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
>>> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
>>> all the time is not going to shit on my property.
>>
>> BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM
>> HERE-ON-
>> IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
>> LETTER ATTACHED!
>>
>> Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
>> to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into
>> insignificance
>> compared to pigeons alone.
>
>
> I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
> a weeks worth  of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
> flower beds.  This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with
> irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
> chuck them to defecate where they please.

You say )to the PP):

"...if I delivered to your property a weeks worth of cat shit I find in
my relatively small front garden flower beds".

But why would you do that?

On 07/03/2024 01:09 pm, David Paste wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 12:34:19 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>
>> I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
>> a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
>> flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with
>> irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
>> chuck them to defecate where they please.
>
> No, I'd do something about it because I'm not helpless.
>
> If you went away for a few days and left your windows open, would you
> complain if your house had been burgled? No, of course not, you'd chastise
> yourself for doing something stupid which is entirely under your control.
>
> What if the cats crappng in your garden are feral? Have no human
> custodials? Who do you complain to then? Or do you, as is rational, assume
> that a small amount of effort on your behalf could sort out a problem
> quite effectively, regardless of who may or may not "own" the crapping
> cat?
>
> That your initial idea of complaining to the owner relies implicitly on
> assuming that EVERY visiting cat HAS an owner is the flaw in your
> hypothesis.
>
> Also, how do you know it's not an urban fox?

When we first had motion-sensing security lights fitted (front, rear and
side alley), we were constantly puzzled as to why they seemed to switch
themselves on during the hours of darkness.

Then one night, as I pulled into the drive, a fox broke cover from the
hedge and ran to the back of the house - switching on the alleyway
lights as he went.

On 07/03/2024 16:20, JNugent wrote:
> On 07/03/2024 12:34 pm, alan_m wrote:
>> On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
>>>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
>>>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
>>>> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
>>>> indoors
>>>> all the time is not going to shit on my property.
>>>
>>> BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM
>>> HERE-ON-
>>> IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
>>> LETTER ATTACHED!
>>>
>>> Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
>>> to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into
>>> insignificance
>>> compared to pigeons alone.
>>
>>
>> I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your
>> property a weeks worth  of cat shit I find in my relatively small
>> front garden flower beds.  This is an urban area overrun with fucking
>> cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets
>> and just chuck them to defecate where they please.
>
> You say )to the PP):
>
> "...if I delivered to your property a weeks worth  of cat shit I find in
> my relatively small front garden flower beds".
>
> But why would you do that?

I'd be happy to take it. First rate fertiliser

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On 07/03/2024 05:50 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 07/03/2024 16:20, JNugent wrote:
>> On 07/03/2024 12:34 pm, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
>>>>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
>>>>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
>>>>> responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
>>>>> indoors
>>>>> all the time is not going to shit on my property.
>>>>
>>>> BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM
>>>> HERE-ON-
>>>> IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
>>>> LETTER ATTACHED!
>>>>
>>>> Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get
>>>> round
>>>> to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into
>>>> insignificance
>>>> compared to pigeons alone.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your
>>> property a weeks worth  of cat shit I find in my relatively small
>>> front garden flower beds.  This is an urban area overrun with fucking
>>> cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets
>>> and just chuck them to defecate where they please.
>>
>> You say )to the PP):
>>
>> "...if I delivered to your property a weeks worth  of cat shit I find
>> in my relatively small front garden flower beds".
>>
>> But why would you do that?
>
> I'd be happy to take it. First rate fertiliser

It's his shovelling (or scooping it) up and bringing it round in a bag
that sounds... amusing.