On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 14:18:05 +0100, Steve Hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> I am lucky in that my distance vision is still pretty much perfect - I
>> can still read a street sign that's so far away that waife can barely
>> see sign, let alone what is writ on it.
>> I amazed someone once at Frod once by reading what was on her monitor. I
>> was sat at my desk, there was another desk facing mine, then a gap and
>> then her desk facing same way as mine, so 4-5m away.
>>
>> There is a small difference between my eyes for reading, but a 2.5
>> cheapo reader is fine. I buy a batch of several from Amazon for a tenner
>> that includes one pair with a yellowish lens that I use at night to cut
>> out blue light which is apparently good for me.
>>
>> My last visit to SS showed a slight improvement in reading and I
>> remarked that I'd noticed that myself when looking at phone unaided for
>> example. I was told it was my early stage cataracts. Not noticeable
>> otherwise except when driving at night and I get a small flash at the
>> edge of my vision when I turn my head. When it gets worse I'll get them
>> done...
>>
>My cataracts became a not so clear problem when I realised that when
>driving at night, I would look up at a street lamp and see four, instead
>of the one I was looking at. Since my cataracts were sorted I only need
>glasses for reading and other close work.The operation isn't painful,
>but the bright light they use is uncomfortable.
>Steve

I only need glasses for some smaller print now. The operation was a
bit scary because the Dr has a laser etc over your eye and you can see
it coming.

In message <50bvcih2emve8kv5ldrt6natd8juhr4hhu@4ax.com> at Sun, 6 Aug
2023 16:59:48, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
[]
>condensed milk - but I won't be making any. Oh dear, that tin is way out of
>date, maybe I will investigate the marron and give that ice cream a go...

I always thought tinned food, by definition (unless it's been to
_seriously_ cold climates where the tin turns to a different allotrope
that's crumbly), didn't _have_ expiry. I certainly don't think I've ever
looked at the date on an unopened tin. Did they (dates) start being
added when the panic over such things came in? (Perhaps seen as a
marketing opportunity - I don't mean the dates seen as a selling point,
more making people replace perfectly good stock.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you believe in telekinesis, raise my right hand

In message <e83f0b93-8e47-4367-b02a-df24b2effc5an@googlegroups.com> at
Sun, 6 Aug 2023 06:53:06, Nick Odell <nickodell@bigfoot.com> writes
>On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 1:59:280 []
>> is a Bad Thing. I _don't_ hate E numbers, though: I always thought they
>> were a great idea - the only reason for the hatred I can see is
>> xenophobia (because the E comes from Europe), possibly added to general
>> hatred of technology (some feeling that because it's a number, it's by
>> definition more dangerous, less "natural" - which is silly, because lots
>> of "natural" ingredients have E numbers [I'm not sure if even water has
>> one]). Like the DHMO scares ... (-:
>>
>> Other than perhaps medicines, you hardly ever see E numbers nowadays in
>> ingredients lists - the chemicals are named. Presumably _because_ of the
>> prejudice against the numbers.
>
>Is it worth mentioning here that "E-Numbers" =/= "Bad Stuff." (is that
>how you symbolise 'not equal' in ASCII?) It's just an EU-originated
>list of chemicals and compounds which might permissibly be found in
>food and drink and the E-Number is a standardised description of the
>same.

That was my point: E numbers were (still are) a _good_ thing: they're
just a way of using a standard description. Made life easier for
international manufacturers where common ingredients have widely
differing names across countries (I think garlic is a good example), but
even within single languages, they do IMO make life easier. (Some things
have names that vary around a single country.) "I'm allergic to widow's
spurge." "That's OK, this doesn't contain that, only dead man's leaves."
(But they're the same thing!) But as I say, you hardly ever see them (E
numbers) these days (except perhaps in medicine leaflets), and I can
only _presume_ that's because of the ill-conceived prejudice against
them.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Old soldiers never die - only young ones

On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:08:43 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:23:37 +0100, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>I was told it was my early stage cataracts. Not noticeable
>>otherwise except when driving at night and I get a small flash at the
>>edge of my vision when I turn my head.
>
>Oh, is that what that is?
>I've been aware I was heading towards cataracts for some time. One over
>zealous new optician put me on annual reviews, without telling me why, for
>a couple of years (some years back) until someone else took a closer look
>at my file and took me off that frequency again. The flashes are a new
>thing for me, and a little disconcerting at times.

I was offered the cataract removal around 6 or 7 years ago and as
there was no urgency, they said, didn't have it. Then it was no longer
on offer, presumably NHS cuts. But then I noticed driving at night got
more uncomfortable and the optician and hospital agreed it should be
done. They were quite thick cataracts by then apparently, and the ops
too around 45 minutes/.

On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:14:19 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:08:43 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:23:37 +0100, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com>
>>scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>>I was told it was my early stage cataracts. Not noticeable
>>>otherwise except when driving at night and I get a small flash at the
>>>edge of my vision when I turn my head.
>>
>>Oh, is that what that is?
>>I've been aware I was heading towards cataracts for some time. One over
>>zealous new optician put me on annual reviews, without telling me why, for
>>a couple of years (some years back) until someone else took a closer look
>>at my file and took me off that frequency again. The flashes are a new
>>thing for me, and a little disconcerting at times.
>
>Sorry to follow myself up...
>When my M-in-L had her cataracts done, she was in the eye hospital for at
>least 2 days (she was younger than I am now at the time). A woman in my
>singing group reported the other day, she arrived at the hospital just
>before the time of her appointment, waited 4 hours(!) to be seen, but the
>op took about 30 minutes and she went home shortly afterwards.

I had to stay for an hour after the op having coffee and biscuits
before B could drive me home.

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 15:07:31 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>I was transferred as an internal patient
>from the Royal Berks to Moorfields and this entitled me to ambulance
>transportation for the transfer. As the ambulance reached the outer
>stretches of London and started on its’ journey around two or three other
>medical establishments to deposit patients, traffic buildup was becoming a
>nightmare and we were stuck in umpteen miles of staionary traffic and it
>was becoming very warm too! Good fortune favoured the unworthy on that
>occasion as eventually a police car drew up next to us and the drivers had
>a quick chat … on went the blues and two and we were blue lighted right
>into City Road!!!!

I had to get to Watford Junction, then train to Euston, tube to City
Rd and then walk to the hospital from the station. They have painted
a green line on the pavement so those with poor eyesight can follow it
from the station to the hospital, and back with blurred vision from
the drops.

In message <75kvci12b8va0f8mf15fd9sumnbmr6ahct@4ax.com> at Sun, 6 Aug
2023 17:57:43, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
[]
>I had to get to Watford Junction, then train to Euston, tube to City
>Rd and then walk to the hospital from the station. They have painted
>a green line on the pavement so those with poor eyesight can follow it
>from the station to the hospital, and back with blurred vision from
>the drops.

What a sensible idea.

(Reminds me of Trantor. [Wonder how many will get _that_ reference!])
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you believe in telekinesis, raise my right hand

On 06/08/2023 15:39, Mike McMillan wrote:
> Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:23:37 +0100, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com>
>> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> I was told it was my early stage cataracts. Not noticeable
>>> otherwise except when driving at night and I get a small flash at the
>>> edge of my vision when I turn my head.
>>
>> Oh, is that what that is?
>> I've been aware I was heading towards cataracts for some time. One over
>> zealous new optician put me on annual reviews, without telling me why, for
>> a couple of years (some years back) until someone else took a closer look
>> at my file and took me off that frequency again. The flashes are a new
>> thing for me, and a little disconcerting at times.
>
> The pin pricks / flashes of light are indicative of retinal damage -
> partial detachment should be repaired as soon as possible as the tissue
> detached from nourishment will deteriorate resulting in sight loss. I have
> been there and have the mug, towel and badge! THBANHSA.
>

You should certainly keep everything monitored. But small flashes of
light on the periphery of your sight can also be the relatively harmless
posterior vitreous detachment, when the gel that fills your eyeball gets
a bit less fluid with age, and pulls slightly at the back of the eye.
This happens to lots of people and doesn't lead to anything worrying.
But if it gets worse or you're worried, get an optician to check it out.
They can refer you to Moorfields or the local equivalent if necessary.

https://www.rnib.org.uk/your-eyes/eye-conditions-az/posterior-vitreous-detachment/

--
Kate B

On 06-Aug-23 18:11, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <75kvci12b8va0f8mf15fd9sumnbmr6ahct@4ax.com> at Sun, 6 Aug
> 2023 17:57:43, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
> []
>> I had to get to Watford Junction, then train to Euston, tube to City
>> Rd and then walk to the hospital from the station.  They have painted
>> a green line on the pavement so those with poor eyesight can follow it
>> from the station to the hospital, and back with blurred vision from
>> the drops.
>
> What a sensible idea.
>
> (Reminds me of Trantor. [Wonder how many will get _that_ reference!])

People Seldon get those sort of references.

--
Sam Plusnet

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 21:29:07 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 06-Aug-23 18:11, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <75kvci12b8va0f8mf15fd9sumnbmr6ahct@4ax.com> at Sun, 6 Aug
>> 2023 17:57:43, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
>> []
>>> I had to get to Watford Junction, then train to Euston, tube to City
>>> Rd and then walk to the hospital from the station.  They have painted
>>> a green line on the pavement so those with poor eyesight can follow it
>>> from the station to the hospital, and back with blurred vision from
>>> the drops.
>>
>> What a sensible idea.
>>
>> (Reminds me of Trantor. [Wonder how many will get _that_ reference!])
>
>People Seldon get those sort of references.

Do the Stannell emperors relate to the current tin can thread?

--
Regards, Paul Herber
https://www.paulherber.co.uk/

On 06/08/2023 14:53, Nick Odell wrote:

> I think someone upthread was talking about "serving suggestions" and I have this impression that they may have been asking whether or not it appears on tinned goods? While I was in the pantry earlier, I checked a few tins and all of them which showed the foodstuff prepared in any way had "serving suggestion" printed in the margin of the picture. Meat, fish, vegetables, everything. Those tins which showed the unprepared contents did not have anything written there.
>
> Nick
> nickodell49@yahoo.ca

That was me - or indeed, I. I was remarking that when I first saw it, it
struck me as odd. I did not know at that time that it was a legal
requirement.

I also once saw, many years ago before metrication, a weight declaration
on tins which read "18 ounces 1¼ lbs".

On 06/08/2023 17:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <50bvcih2emve8kv5ldrt6natd8juhr4hhu@4ax.com> at Sun, 6 Aug
> 2023 16:59:48, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
> []
>> condensed milk - but I won't be making any. Oh dear, that tin is way
>> out of
>> date, maybe I will investigate the marron and give that ice cream a go...
>
> I always thought tinned food, by definition (unless it's been to
> _seriously_ cold climates where the tin turns to a different allotrope
> that's crumbly), didn't _have_ expiry. I certainly don't think I've ever
> looked at the date on an unopened tin. Did they (dates) start being
> added when the panic over such things came in? (Perhaps seen as a
> marketing opportunity - I don't mean the dates seen as a selling point,
> more making people replace perfectly good stock.)

I've just looked in my cupboard at some tinned soup from a well-known
supplier. The tins are marked with a "best before" date. This is NOT
the same as "use by", which tends to be used on fresh products like
dairy goods.

I bought chicken soup and tomato soup on the same day, a few months
ago. Tomato is BB Jan 2024, and chicken BB Jan 2025. Reason (I think)
is that tomatoes are very acidic and will tend to attack steel more
quickly than chickens! I wouldn't be concerned unless the tin showed
signs of being "blown", or the contents smelled or appeared bad on opening.

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 08:23:42 +0100, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>I also once saw, many years ago before metrication, a weight declaration
>on tins which read "18 ounces 1¼ lbs".

Um, no.
"20 ounces 1¼ lbs"
or
"18 ounces 11/8 lbs"
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 17:41:04 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>E numbers were (still are) a _good_ thing: they're
>just a way of using a standard description. Made life easier for
>international manufacturers where common ingredients have widely
>differing names across countries (I think garlic is a good example), but
>even within single languages, they do IMO make life easier. (Some things
>have names that vary around a single country.) "I'm allergic to widow's
>spurge." "That's OK, this doesn't contain that, only dead man's leaves."
>(But they're the same thing!) But as I say, you hardly ever see them (E
>numbers) these days (except perhaps in medicine leaflets), and I can
>only _presume_ that's because of the ill-conceived prejudice against
>them.

My main interest in E numbers related to artificial colours, some of which
had an adverse effect on the behaviour of young children - who were
probably more exposed to them than grown-ups. When ingredients labels only
said 'colours' and 'flavours' without specifying what, it was a minefield.
The change to labelling to be more specific was the important bit, not the
classification numbers.

OTOH, I am still greatly amused by the list of flavourings on the lid of a
tub of sweets manufactured in Turkey:
"nature identical flavour according to sort (lemon, apple,
orange,blackberry, rose, cinnamon, peppermint, handkerchief, together,
banana)."

I'm not convinced the E numbers on the colours list were helpful. It's
easier to remember tartrazine than E102, sunset yellow than E110 and allura
red than E129. Tartrazine was the one most mums I knew were checking for in
the '80s.

The red dye/food colouring cochineal (E120) (made from crushed scale
insects) has now (from 2019) been dropped completely for use in food, even
though it had been used for centuries. I'm not aware of any adverse effects
from it.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 08:23:42 +0100, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk>
> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> I also once saw, many years ago before metrication, a weight declaration
>> on tins which read "18 ounces 1¼ lbs".
>
> Um, no.
> "20 ounces 1¼ lbs"
> or
> "18 ounces 11/8 lbs"

A-bean, a bean, half a bean…

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 06/08/2023 18:11, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <75kvci12b8va0f8mf15fd9sumnbmr6ahct@4ax.com> at Sun, 6 Aug
> 2023 17:57:43, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> writes
> []
>> I had to get to Watford Junction, then train to Euston, tube to City
>> Rd and then walk to the hospital from the station.  They have painted
>> a green line on the pavement so those with poor eyesight can follow it
>> from the station to the hospital, and back with blurred vision from
>> the drops.
>
> What a sensible idea.
>
> (Reminds me of Trantor. [Wonder how many will get _that_ reference!])
Are you trying to make Mules of us?
Steve

>
> That was my point: E numbers were (still are) a _good_ thing: they're
> just a way of using a standard description. Made life easier for
> international manufacturers where common ingredients have widely
> differing names across countries (I think garlic is a good example), but
> even within single languages, they do IMO make life easier. (Some things
> have names that vary around a single country.) "I'm allergic to widow's
> spurge." "That's OK, this doesn't contain that, only dead man's leaves."
> (But they're the same thing!) But as I say, you hardly ever see them (E
> numbers) these days (except perhaps in medicine leaflets), and I can
> only _presume_ that's because of the ill-conceived prejudice against them.
> []
It's a similar thing with monosodium glutamate. It's not bad for you in
reasonable amounts, and I'm told the body produces it naturally. It's
often listed in products as "flavour enhancer". I confess to having a
tub of it in my cupboard, and use a pinch or two in casseroles and slow
cooked meals.
Steve

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:08:43 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:23:37 +0100, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com>
>> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> I was told it was my early stage cataracts. Not noticeable
>>> otherwise except when driving at night and I get a small flash at the
>>> edge of my vision when I turn my head.
>>
>> Oh, is that what that is?
>> I've been aware I was heading towards cataracts for some time. One over
>> zealous new optician put me on annual reviews, without telling me why, for
>> a couple of years (some years back) until someone else took a closer look
>> at my file and took me off that frequency again. The flashes are a new
>> thing for me, and a little disconcerting at times.
>
> Sorry to follow myself up...
> When my M-in-L had her cataracts done, she was in the eye hospital for at
> least 2 days (she was younger than I am now at the time). A woman in my
> singing group reported the other day, she arrived at the hospital just
> before the time of her appointment, waited 4 hours(!) to be seen, but the
> op took about 30 minutes and she went home shortly afterwards.

From memory of sitting with those having cataracts, they boot one out after
30 mins (or did in 2010). Me? Mine were done under anaesthetic, my first
op took an hr: it was a difficult one. Both times I went home after 4 hrs,
had lunch as I was on the morning list.

Mrs McT

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 06:53:06 -0700 (PDT), Nick Odell
> <nickodell@bigfoot.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> I think someone upthread was talking about "serving suggestions" and I
>> have this impression that they may have been asking whether or not it
>> appears on tinned goods? While I was in the pantry earlier, I checked a
>> few tins and all of them which showed the foodstuff prepared in any way
>> had "serving suggestion" printed in the margin of the picture. Meat,
>> fish, vegetables, everything. Those tins which showed the unprepared
>> contents did not have anything written there.
>
> Yes, I wondered vaguely if there was a rule about it and when it 'came in'
> if there was.
> I don't buy much in tins but just checked my cupboard. The butter beans
> show butter beans all over the tin with no suggestion of how to serve them.
> The mixed beans show a bowl of beans, a tomato and an onion - apparently
> that counts as a suggestion. Cheap chopped tomatoes have no picture,
> pilchards have a drawing, as does the somewhat ancient can of puree de
> marron (mmm, chestnut ice cream...).
> John West suggest a tiny sprig of parsley on their sild. Lidl's vorschlag a
> tiny amount of red lettuce, three basil leaves and a sprig of dill with
> their zarte heringsfilets and the laverbread suggests a sugar basin with
> slices of red and green peppers, a sprig of parsley and a tea spoon.
> The only suggestion I like is the millionaire shortbread shown on the
> condensed milk - but I won't be making any. Oh dear, that tin is way out of
> date, maybe I will investigate the marron and give that ice cream a go...

Mmm, chestnut ice cream! I make a lot of ice cream when my hens are being
kind to me with eggs, but haven't tried that. Off to research purée de
maroon...

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK

On 07/08/2023 09:41, Penny wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 08:23:42 +0100, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk>
> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> I also once saw, many years ago before metrication, a weight declaration
>> on tins which read "18 ounces 1¼ lbs".
>
> Um, no.
> "20 ounces 1¼ lbs"
> or
> "18 ounces 11/8 lbs"

Was it a Merkin tin? They have funny ounces over there.
--
Kate B

Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:08:43 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:23:37 +0100, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com>
>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>
>>>> I was told it was my early stage cataracts. Not noticeable
>>>> otherwise except when driving at night and I get a small flash at the
>>>> edge of my vision when I turn my head.
>>>
>>> Oh, is that what that is?
>>> I've been aware I was heading towards cataracts for some time. One over
>>> zealous new optician put me on annual reviews, without telling me why, for
>>> a couple of years (some years back) until someone else took a closer look
>>> at my file and took me off that frequency again. The flashes are a new
>>> thing for me, and a little disconcerting at times.
>>
>> Sorry to follow myself up...
>> When my M-in-L had her cataracts done, she was in the eye hospital for at
>> least 2 days (she was younger than I am now at the time). A woman in my
>> singing group reported the other day, she arrived at the hospital just
>> before the time of her appointment, waited 4 hours(!) to be seen, but the
>> op took about 30 minutes and she went home shortly afterwards.
>
> From memory of sitting with those having cataracts, they boot one out after
> 30 mins (or did in 2010). Me? Mine were done under anaesthetic, my first
> op took an hr: it was a difficult one. Both times I went home after 4 hrs,
> had lunch as I was on the morning list.
>
> Mrs McT
>

Whereas mine was carried out by Bob Cooling (of whom I wrote recently) at
Moorfields some years after he had carried out my second RF op. When I
first experienced strange *effects and approached the Eye Dept. At the
Royal Berks., they didn’t know what was causing the effect and just
dismissed me. Over a year later with the effects bothering me far more, I
insisted on being seen again. After a quick examination by their then Head
of the Eye Dept. (no names, no cordless), she told me ‘It is your
Cataract’ [said in a tone to suggest that they knew that was what it was
originally so why didn’t I?!]

I requested a second opinion and knew that I was still on the Moorfields
records so requested there. When Bob saw me, he immediately confirmed it
was a cataract and that he would be delighted to take care of it for me! It
was mid December when I saw Bob and he then asked when would I like to
attend for him to sort it out for me and suggested early January - this we
did!

I was in for a couple of days and released in the evening of the same day
as the op. It was a very wet night and I remember guiding Mrs. McToodles
around the puddles in the car park where a friend of ours who had also been
one of Wunderkind’s primary school teachers was waiting to bring us back
home.

Here’s the Ahhhh bit, when we got home and stood in the hall, for the first
time, I could see just how blue Mrs. McToodles eyes were! [‘Ere, take this
tissue, I think you have something in your eye dear reader.]

* My cataract had the effects of a tobacco filter used in photography,
along with a blurring and a star and halo filters too. All blues had been
muted for years but I suppose multiple images of everything was a ‘no extra
cost’ bonus of dubious merit.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 07/08/2023 15:38, Kate B wrote:
> On 07/08/2023 09:41, Penny wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 08:23:42 +0100, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> I also once saw, many years ago before metrication, a weight declaration
>>> on tins which read "18 ounces 1¼ lbs".
>>
>> Um, no.
>> "20 ounces 1¼ lbs"
>> or
>> "18 ounces 11/8 lbs"
>
> Was it a Merkin tin? They have funny ounces over there.

They have a different fluid ounce, but their weight ounces are the same.

Q. Which weighs more, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold?

--
Cheers
Clive

In message <uaqvp9$2t51o$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:40:41,
Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
[]
>Here’s the Ahhhh bit, when we got home and stood in the hall, for the first
>time, I could see just how blue Mrs. McToodles eyes were! [‘Ere, take this
>tissue, I think you have something in your eye dear reader.]
[]
Very Aah. Lovely!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I'm too lazy to have a bigger ego. - James May, RT 2016/1/23-29

In message <kjcdmiF56boU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 7 Aug 2023
14:33:54, Sally Thompson <thompson.stonybrook@gmail.com.invalid> writes
[]
>Mmm, chestnut ice cream! I make a lot of ice cream when my hens are being
>kind to me with eggs, but haven't tried that. Off to research purée de
>maroon...
>
You'll be in a brown study then.
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Tolerating intolerance is not a virtue." - Barry Shein

In message <kjbli2Frc1U3@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 7 Aug 2023
08:41:53, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
[]
>I bought chicken soup and tomato soup on the same day, a few months
>ago. Tomato is BB Jan 2024, and chicken BB Jan 2025. Reason (I think)
>is that tomatoes are very acidic and will tend to attack steel more
>quickly than chickens! I wouldn't be concerned unless the tin showed
>signs of being "blown", or the contents smelled or appeared bad on opening.

I thought (a) tins were made of tinplate[d steel], hence the name - or
were originally (and tin turns powdery in _very_ cold temperatures, thus
causing problems in an early war - Dardanelles or something? - which had
a harsh winter: not a problem then, but was in the subsequent summer),
and (b) they have a thin plastic liner these days?

I agree, I wouldn't worry unless there was obvious damage or smell or
appearance.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Tolerating intolerance is not a virtue." - Barry Shein