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Re: Modern computers

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 by: Mark Olson - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 18:09 UTC

Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure how that would have worked without a paper receipt.
>
> Hmm...

As it happened, immediately after disputing the charge with Amex, I
phoned the hotel direct. They checked all their records and had three
charges attributed to me during our stay. The room had been paid in
advance, and we had drinks in the lounge, both of those charges made
it to Amex on time. The meal charge in their records was correct,
but never made it onto my bill until 7 months later, for 100x the
correct amount. To their credit, Marriott Iceland did provide all
the docs I asked for without delay. I'm still not totally sure who
screwed up here, but I'm leaning toward the hotel or the Marriott
Iceland finance office.

It probably would have been ironed out eventually, but I was getting
rather fed up with having to phone everyone (including Marriott
corporate in the US) and keep pushing to have it resolved, weeks after
I had uploaded all the necessary documentation. So much for having
'Titanium/Platinum/Iridium' status with Marriott...

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

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 by: Tim - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 18:24 UTC

On 06/10/2023 18:29, petrolcan wrote:
> In article <ufp4va$1is8g$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
>
>> I ended up wiping everything and going to Linux only. I don't miss
>> having Windows, mostly I use a Chromebook with a Linux environment
>> anyway. When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
>> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD) so I suppose it will
>> be switched over to Linux-only as well.
>
> Just use https://rufus.ie/en/ to bypass the TPM requirement

Yup, I have W11 Pro running on an AMD FX-6300.

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 by: Mark Olson - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 18:38 UTC

Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:
> On 06/10/2023 18:29, petrolcan wrote:
>> In article <ufp4va$1is8g$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
>>
>>> I ended up wiping everything and going to Linux only. I don't miss
>>> having Windows, mostly I use a Chromebook with a Linux environment
>>> anyway. When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
>>> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD) so I suppose it will
>>> be switched over to Linux-only as well.
>>
>> Just use https://rufus.ie/en/ to bypass the TPM requirement
>
> Yup, I have W11 Pro running on an AMD FX-6300.

So, I've used Rufus before to make a bootable USB stick from an
ISO. Are you saying that the only time Windows 11 cares about the
TPM/processor model is if you try to upgrade 'live' from Windows 10?

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 18:46 UTC

El Fri, 06 Oct 2023 18:55:07 +0200, Worst Case escribió:

> On 6 Oct 2023 15:16:07 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't advise people to not take statins either.
>
> I take statins. Doesn't everyone?

No.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es

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 by: Scion - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 20:04 UTC

On Fri, 06 Oct 2023 10:37:46 -0700, Stephen Packer wrote:

<snip>

> Makes good insulation in my loft; or a fire hazard, take your pick.

Either keeps you warm.

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 by: Boots - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:46 UTC

On 06/10/2023 22:18 Mark Olson penned these words:
> When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD) so I suppose it will
> be switched over to Linux-only as well.

That's kind of my thoughts, I really don't need it and I am unsure if madam will
really notice since her main usage is a browser.
--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

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 by: Boots - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:45 UTC

On 07/10/2023 00:55 "Worst Case"@dizum.com penned these words:
> On 6 Oct 2023 15:16:07 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't advise people to not take statins either.
>
> I take statins. Doesn't everyone?
>
Will see what this years figures are but so far not needed.
--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

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 by: Boots - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:49 UTC

On 06/10/2023 22:29 Stephen Packer penned these words:
> On Friday, 6 October 2023 at 11:18:10 UTC+1, Boots wrote:

>> VM in my case dual boot is a right fag and sooner rather than later a Windows
>> update will screw up the boot loader. I keep the laptop we travel with on
>> Windows because madam told me in no uncertain terms to leave it be. I use a VM
>> on my desktop for those things that really require MS, in my case Excel.
>
> I've been running Mac for a long time; 15 years or so? I had kept running a VM to
> be able to use a couple of windows apps; Microsoft Money being the key one.
>

The only thing I need in excel is my tax return SW which is a VBA reissued
annually, I can buy another if push comes to shove.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

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 by: RustyHinge - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 07:29 UTC

On 07/10/2023 05:45, Boots wrote:
> On 07/10/2023 00:55 "Worst Case"@dizum.com penned these words:
>> On 6 Oct 2023 15:16:07 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't advise people to not take statins either.
>>
>> I take statins. Doesn't everyone?
>>
> Will see what this years figures are but so far not needed.
>
AIUI statins are purely a preventative, not a treatment.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: Boots - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 09:20 UTC

On 07/10/2023 15:29 RustyHinge penned these words:
> On 07/10/2023 05:45, Boots wrote:
>> On 07/10/2023 00:55 "Worst Case"@dizum.com penned these words:
>>> On 6 Oct 2023 15:16:07 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't advise people to not take statins either.
>>>
>>> I take statins. Doesn't everyone?
>>>
>> Will see what this years figures are but so far not needed.
>>
> AIUI statins are purely a preventative, not a treatment.
>

As in if the cholesterol figure is high they'll bring it down. In madam's case
before drugs 12 after 5, mines 4 naturally last year.
--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

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 by: Ace - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 09:55 UTC

On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:18:18 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
<olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

>When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
>Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD)

That should be fine, according to MS. My i5 Laptop's been trying to
pesuade me to 'upgrade' to W11 for at least a couple of years now,
even before I doubled the Ram to 16Gb, and with a much smaller drive
than yours. I mean, it doesn't mean you should, but...

Is there a predicted timedcale for W10 support to be pulled? I would
think there must be a huge proportion of W10 users who, like me, have
absolutely no desore to go to W11, which has zero useful new features
for me, potentially won't support some older features and will almost
certainly onsume a lot more system resource just to run.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 10:12 UTC

El Sat, 07 Oct 2023 17:20:35 +0800, Boots escribió:

> On 07/10/2023 15:29 RustyHinge penned these words:
>> On 07/10/2023 05:45, Boots wrote:
>>> On 07/10/2023 00:55 "Worst Case"@dizum.com penned these words:
>>>> On 6 Oct 2023 15:16:07 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't advise people to not take statins either.
>>>>
>>>> I take statins. Doesn't everyone?
>>>>
>>> Will see what this years figures are but so far not needed.
>>>
>> AIUI statins are purely a preventative, not a treatment.
>>
>>
> As in if the cholesterol figure is high they'll bring it down. In
> madam's case before drugs 12 after 5, mines 4 naturally last year.

Mine was 300 last time I checked.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es

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 by: Pete Fisher - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 10:58 UTC

On 07/10/2023 10:55, Ace wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:18:18 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>> When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
>> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD)
>
> That should be fine, according to MS. My i5 Laptop's been trying to
> pesuade me to 'upgrade' to W11 for at least a couple of years now,
> even before I doubled the Ram to 16Gb, and with a much smaller drive
> than yours. I mean, it doesn't mean you should, but...
>
> Is there a predicted timedcale for W10 support to be pulled? I would
> think there must be a huge proportion of W10 users who, like me, have
> absolutely no desore to go to W11, which has zero useful new features
> for me, potentially won't support some older features and will almost
> certainly onsume a lot more system resource just to run.

For my Desktop PC (Dell Optiplex 9020 32Gb RAM 250 Gb SSD 1Tb Disk):

"This PC will not run Windows 11
Your PC does not meet the needed requirements. Windows 10 will be
supported until 14 October 2025, but you can also explore new PCs that
will run Windows 11"

Warning on secure boot
Warning on TPM
Processor not supported: Core i5-4590 3.0 GHz

Not that worried as I also have a fairly recent Asus laptop that will -
though I keep stopping it from upgrading.

An aside: I have Ubuntu 20.06.6 LTS as a WSL instance on the desktop
mainly for phpBB proof of concept jobs - though Wampserver works just as
well for that. Better actually, as one useful phpBB extension just
refuses to work properly on the Ubuntu VM - says a folder isn't
writeable when it demonstrable is. The same extension works OK on
Wampserver and also on a one.com LAMP stack. Thought it might be a PHP
version issue but haven't got to the bottom of it yet.

To head off the usual response - well *I* do pokemon.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

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 by: Ace - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 11:41 UTC

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 11:58:01 +0100, Pete Fisher
<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On 07/10/2023 10:55, Ace wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:18:18 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
>> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
>>> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD)
>>
>> That should be fine, according to MS.

>For my Desktop PC (Dell Optiplex 9020 32Gb RAM 250 Gb SSD 1Tb Disk):
>
>"This PC will not run Windows 11
>Your PC does not meet the needed requirements. Windows 10 will be
>supported until 14 October 2025, but you can also explore new PCs that
>will run Windows 11"
>
>Warning on secure boot
>Warning on TPM
>Processor not supported: Core i5-4590 3.0 GHz

Mine's a " Core i5-8250U @ 1.6 GHz" which is supported, so it's
clearly not as simple as just the i number. Multiple cores is also
apparently required.

Anyway, lucky you, I say, cos at least you won't keep getting
pressured to upgrade.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

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 by: petrolcan - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 16:45 UTC

In article <ufpk6m$1rfnf$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
>
> Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 06/10/2023 18:29, petrolcan wrote:
> >> In article <ufp4va$1is8g$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
> >>
> >>> I ended up wiping everything and going to Linux only. I don't miss
> >>> having Windows, mostly I use a Chromebook with a Linux environment
> >>> anyway. When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
> >>> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD) so I suppose it will
> >>> be switched over to Linux-only as well.
> >>
> >> Just use https://rufus.ie/en/ to bypass the TPM requirement
> >
> > Yup, I have W11 Pro running on an AMD FX-6300.
>
> So, I've used Rufus before to make a bootable USB stick from an
> ISO. Are you saying that the only time Windows 11 cares about the
> TPM/processor model is if you try to upgrade 'live' from Windows 10?

Nope, catches you doing a fresh install too.

When using rufus there's an option to tell it to bypass the TPM bullshit.

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 by: Mark Olson - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 18:12 UTC

petrolcan <petrolcan@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <ufpk6m$1rfnf$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
>>
>> Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:
>> > On 06/10/2023 18:29, petrolcan wrote:

>> >> Just use https://rufus.ie/en/ to bypass the TPM requirement
>> >
>> > Yup, I have W11 Pro running on an AMD FX-6300.
>>
>> So, I've used Rufus before to make a bootable USB stick from an
>> ISO. Are you saying that the only time Windows 11 cares about the
>> TPM/processor model is if you try to upgrade 'live' from Windows 10?
>
> Nope, catches you doing a fresh install too.
>
> When using rufus there's an option to tell it to bypass the TPM bullshit.

OK, thanks.

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

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 by: Pipl - Sun, 8 Oct 2023 18:07 UTC

On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:05:18 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> >How often are you booting? I do it like once a month, so 30 seconds isn't much to lose.
>
>>> I usually shut it down completely each day.
>Really? Wow
>
>>I could probably be less
>>> meticulous about this, but i't partly a dislike of wasting power
>>> unnecessarily.
>
>>Just hit suspend. Or hibernate if you want it drawing zero juice. But shutting down? It's 2023.
>
>Wot Ogden sed

There's more to it than just the boot time - it has started freezing
for 20 or more seconds at a time while it does ... soemthing.

It has occurred to me that the hard drive is dying, if access retries
are a thing. I know they use error correction internally, so maybe
they also retry sector reads or something.

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-Pip

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Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote in
news:iqr5ii54d05uhjeovdfjs95q3n9hod9ntp@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:05:18 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> >How often are you booting? I do it like once a month, so 30
>>>> >seconds isn't much to lose.
>>
>>>> I usually shut it down completely each day.
>>Really? Wow
>>
>>>I could probably be less
>>>> meticulous about this, but i't partly a dislike of wasting power
>>>> unnecessarily.
>>
>>>Just hit suspend. Or hibernate if you want it drawing zero juice. But
>>>shutting down? It's 2023.
>>
>>Wot Ogden sed
>
> There's more to it than just the boot time - it has started freezing
> for 20 or more seconds at a time while it does ... soemthing.
>
> It has occurred to me that the hard drive is dying, if access retries
> are a thing. I know they use error correction internally, so maybe
> they also retry sector reads or something.
>

similar was happening on my Lenovo laptop with AMD A9 & HDD. About 7 years
old. Very occasional BSD and more frequent mouse pointer freezes or
keyboard not responding. I was starting to think about replacing it and a
mechanical defect enforced this. The non OE, cheap Ebay power lead broke
off in the socket. I assumed it was most likely the HDD struggling to meet
the swap file demands etc.

An Asus Vivobook with i5 & SSD has made life speedier.

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 by: GeoffC - Mon, 9 Oct 2023 08:42 UTC

petrolcan wrote:

> In article <ufpk6m$1rfnf$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
> >
> > Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On 06/10/2023 18:29, petrolcan wrote:
> > >> In article <ufp4va$1is8g$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
> > >>
> > >>> I ended up wiping everything and going to Linux only. I don't
> > miss >>> having Windows, mostly I use a Chromebook with a Linux
> > environment >>> anyway. When Windows 10 goes out of support, my
> > desktop won't support >>> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB
> > SSD) so I suppose it will >>> be switched over to Linux-only as
> > well. >>
> > >> Just use https://rufus.ie/en/ to bypass the TPM requirement
> > >
> > > Yup, I have W11 Pro running on an AMD FX-6300.
> >
> > So, I've used Rufus before to make a bootable USB stick from an
> > ISO. Are you saying that the only time Windows 11 cares about the
> > TPM/processor model is if you try to upgrade 'live' from Windows 10?
>
> Nope, catches you doing a fresh install too.
>
> When using rufus there's an option to tell it to bypass the TPM
> bullshit.

I've used Rufus before and found it to be an excellent little tool,
works where others fail.
New versions come regularly and I hadn't noticed this one:

https://1drv.ms/i/s!Aptckoyvaobmktgda-xqg8cC3PdLbQ?e=WfomGY

Excellent!
Thanks :-)

--

Geoff
NTV650

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 by: GeoffC - Mon, 9 Oct 2023 09:25 UTC

Pipl wrote:

<SNIP>

>
> There's more to it than just the boot time - it has started freezing
> for 20 or more seconds at a time while it does ... soemthing.
>
> It has occurred to me that the hard drive is dying, if access retries
> are a thing. I know they use error correction internally, so maybe
> they also retry sector reads or something.

Could be death throes?
Anything irreplaceable on that drive?
What does S.M.A.R.T. say?

--

Geoff
NTV650

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 by: Nick Brooks - Tue, 10 Oct 2023 09:09 UTC

On 07/10/2023 12:41, Ace wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 11:58:01 +0100, Pete Fisher
> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 07/10/2023 10:55, Ace wrote:
>>> On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:18:18 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
>>> <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When Windows 10 goes out of support, my desktop won't support
>>>> Windows 11 (Core i5 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SSD)
>>>
>>> That should be fine, according to MS.
>
>> For my Desktop PC (Dell Optiplex 9020 32Gb RAM 250 Gb SSD 1Tb Disk):
>>
>> "This PC will not run Windows 11
>> Your PC does not meet the needed requirements. Windows 10 will be
>> supported until 14 October 2025, but you can also explore new PCs that
>> will run Windows 11"
>>
>> Warning on secure boot
>> Warning on TPM
>> Processor not supported: Core i5-4590 3.0 GHz
>
> Mine's a " Core i5-8250U @ 1.6 GHz" which is supported, so it's
> clearly not as simple as just the i number. Multiple cores is also
> apparently required.
>
> Anyway, lucky you, I say, cos at least you won't keep getting
> pressured to upgrade.
>

This stopped me from being nagged
https://www.howtogeek.com/765377/how-to-block-the-windows-11-update-from-installing-on-windows-10/

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On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 09:25:40 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@invalid.nl>
wrote:

>Pipl wrote:
>
><SNIP>
>
>>
>> There's more to it than just the boot time - it has started freezing
>> for 20 or more seconds at a time while it does ... soemthing.
>>
>> It has occurred to me that the hard drive is dying, if access retries
>> are a thing. I know they use error correction internally, so maybe
>> they also retry sector reads or something.
>
>Could be death throes?
>Anything irreplaceable on that drive?
>What does S.M.A.R.T. say?

Crumbs, I'd forgotten about SMART.

= "OK". So it's probably just Windows being... Windows.

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-Pip

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 by: RustyHinge - Fri, 13 Oct 2023 03:42 UTC

On 12/10/2023 20:49, Pipl wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 09:25:40 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@invalid.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> Pipl wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>>
>>> There's more to it than just the boot time - it has started freezing
>>> for 20 or more seconds at a time while it does ... soemthing.
>>>
>>> It has occurred to me that the hard drive is dying, if access retries
>>> are a thing. I know they use error correction internally, so maybe
>>> they also retry sector reads or something.
>>
>> Could be death throes?
>> Anything irreplaceable on that drive?
>> What does S.M.A.R.T. say?
>
> Crumbs, I'd forgotten about SMART.
>
> = "OK". So it's probably just Windows being... Windows.
>
*Always* the first choice.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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From: sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk (sweller)
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Subject: Re: Modern computers
Date: 18 Oct 2023 09:46:38 GMT
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 by: sweller - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 09:46 UTC

Stephen Packer wrote:

> Fortunately I managed to move my finance stuff to another platform
> and export the important accounts, so I've still got my records going
> back to 1990 for my current account... but all those credit cards I
> had in the 90s, 2000s and so on... the data's frozen in a 30GB VM
> Image held on a synology box... probably never to be ran again...
> Frustrating, but utterly pointless hanging onto the past which I'm
> too good at.

"Keep love letters, throw out bank statements"

--
Simon

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From: neal@champ.org.uk (Champ)
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 by: Champ - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:59 UTC

On 18 Oct 2023 09:46:38 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>"Keep love letters, throw out bank statements"

Is that a quote? The internet things not...
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old


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