On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>
>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>
>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>> better photos.
>>
>> Mrs McT
>>
>>
>
>Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.

We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
><toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>>Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>
>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>
>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>> better photos.
>>>
>>> Mrs McT
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>>the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>>to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>>tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>>hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>>gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>
>
>We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.

Would that have been the Marchioness?

Nick

On 13/11/2023 20:00, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>>
>>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>>>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>>> better photos.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>>> the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>>> to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>>> tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>>> hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>>> gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>>
>>
>> We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>> told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>> helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.
>
> Would that have been the Marchioness?

Oh! BTN in spades!

--
Kate B

On 13/11/2023 20:11, Kate B wrote:
> On 13/11/2023 20:00, Nick Odell wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by
>>>>>>>>> accident, due
>>>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner &
>>>>>>>>> spotting the
>>>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a tunnel?  I thought you had to use a ferry in that
>>>>>>>> part of the
>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey.  It was a boat
>>>>>>> trip and
>>>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower
>>>>> deck  with
>>>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top
>>>>> deck.
>>>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged
>>>>> 8.  I
>>>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up.  It was cold but
>>>>> sunny and
>>>>> eventually I survived.  The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>>>> better photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding
>>>> anniversary,
>>>> the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the
>>>> opportunity
>>>> to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the
>>>> heart to
>>>> tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I
>>>> didn’t
>>>> hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the
>>>> landed
>>>> gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>>>
>>>
>>> We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>>> told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>>> helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.
>>
>> Would that have been the Marchioness?
>
> Oh! BTN in spades!
>
>

Absolutely.

john

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:00:05 +0000, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca>
wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>><toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>>
>>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>>>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>>> better photos.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>>>the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>>>to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>>>tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>>>hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>>>gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>>
>>
>>We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>>told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>>helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.
>
>Would that have been the Marchioness?
>
>Nick

No:)

Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>>
>>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>>>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>>> better photos.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>>> the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>>> to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>>> tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>>> hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>>> gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>>
>>
>> We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>> told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>> helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.
>
> Would that have been the Marchioness?
>
> Nick
>

I should let her sink about that one for a while…

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:36:51 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:00:05 +0000, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>><toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>>>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>>>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>>>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>>>>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>>>> better photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>>>>the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>>>>to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>>>>tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>>>>hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>>>>gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>>>
>>>
>>>We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>>>told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>>>helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.
>>
>>Would that have been the Marchioness?
>>
>>Nick
>
>
>No:)

The truth is, Vicky, I am more than a little in awe of your steering
ticket - especially after reading Down to the Sea in Ships by Horatio
Clare(ISBN: 9780099526292) about his time as writer in residence
aboard Maersk line vessels - but I never could resist a blatant
feedlines'r'us like "Party," "Boat" and "Thames."

And thank you, Kate and John.

Nick

On 13/11/2023 20:00, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>>
>>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>>>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>>> better photos.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>>> the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>>> to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>>> tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>>> hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>>> gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>>
>>
>> We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>> told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>> helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.
>
> Would that have been the Marchioness?
>
BTN!

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

On 13/11/2023 20:11, Kate B wrote:
>>
>> Would that have been the Marchioness?
>
> Oh! BTN in spades!

If I'd been able to see the bottom of my screen I'd have known you got
their first, Elvira. Well done!

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 10:19:24 +0000, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca>
wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:36:51 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:00:05 +0000, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:10:13 +0000, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 17:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>><toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>> BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 13/11/2023 09:57, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6.11.23 19:52, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The only time we ever went down the Mersey Tunnel was by accident, due
>>>>>>>>>> to being in the wrong lane when we came around a corner & spotting the
>>>>>>>>>> signs, but it being too late to cross two lanes of busy traffic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is a tunnel? I thought you had to use a ferry in that part of the
>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ve seen the tunnel, I did go across the Mersey. It was a boat trip and
>>>>>>>> we picked more punters up from there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Were the first lot of punters worn out ?
>>>>>>> Must have been very long poles on those punts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too sharp by half, Britters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m not really a boat person and was happy to hide on the lower deck with
>>>>>> a 12 guide dog if it felt too frail in its legs to climb to the top deck.
>>>>>> He was having nine of that and raced after his good dog friend aged 8. I
>>>>>> had no choice, the others nagged me to go up. It was cold but sunny and
>>>>>> eventually I survived. The bribery (these girls know me too well) was
>>>>>> better photos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
>>>>>the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
>>>>>to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
>>>>>tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
>>>>>hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
>>>>>gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We were at a party on a boat on the Thames some years ago and after I
>>>>told them I got my steering ticket on a 200,000 ton tanker (10 hrs
>>>>helming) they let me steer the boat for a whule.
>>>
>>>Would that have been the Marchioness?
>>>
>>>Nick
>>
>>
>>No:)
>
>The truth is, Vicky, I am more than a little in awe of your steering
>ticket - especially after reading Down to the Sea in Ships by Horatio
>Clare(ISBN: 9780099526292) about his time as writer in residence
>aboard Maersk line vessels - but I never could resist a blatant
>feedlines'r'us like "Party," "Boat" and "Thames."
>
>And thank you, Kate and John.
>
>Nick

Well a large tanker does take a while to change course, but out at sea
miles from anywhere or other ships is a good place to learn. I did
take one out from Kuwait though, through the narrow (in 1970) port
entrance. Husband was Chief Officer then I think and would not have
let me. Captain thought it good to have supernumaries who could be
useful.

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-5, Mike McMillan wrote:

> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding anniversary,
> the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me the opportunity
> to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t have the heart to
> tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to any harm and I didn’t
> hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land belonging to the landed
> gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames banks.

I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a motorcycle. 164mph.

People are incredible.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:

> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-5, Mike McMillan wrote:
>
>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding
>> anniversary, the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me
>> the opportunity to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t
>> have the heart to tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to
>> any harm and I didn’t hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land
>> belonging to the landed gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames
>> banks.
>
> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
> motorcycle. 164mph.
>
> People are incredible.

So are their guide dogs.

--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0

Jim Easterbrook <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-5, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>
>>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding
>>> anniversary, the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me
>>> the opportunity to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t
>>> have the heart to tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to
>>> any harm and I didn’t hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land
>>> belonging to the landed gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames
>>> banks.
>>
>> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
>> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
>> motorcycle. 164mph.
>>
>> People are incredible.
>
> So are their guide dogs.
>

I didn't know guide dogs could run that fast.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK

On 16/11/2023 08:33, Sally Thompson wrote:
> Jim Easterbrook <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-5, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding
>>>> anniversary, the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me
>>>> the opportunity to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t
>>>> have the heart to tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to
>>>> any harm and I didn’t hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land
>>>> belonging to the landed gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames
>>>> banks.
>>>
>>> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
>>> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
>>> motorcycle. 164mph.
>>>
>>> People are incredible.
>>
>> So are their guide dogs.
>>
>
> I didn't know guide dogs could run that fast.
>
BTN !

On 16/11/2023 10:30, BrritSki wrote:
> On 16/11/2023 08:33, Sally Thompson wrote:
>> Jim Easterbrook <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-5, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mine Dew, when the Toodles went for a boat trip on our wedding
>>>>> anniversary, the crew heard that it was our anniversary and offered me
>>>>> the opportunity to ‘take the helm’ for a while - which I did, I didn’t
>>>>> have the heart to tell them I am registered blind.;-))) No-one came to
>>>>> any harm and I didn’t hit any of the moorings or impinge upon the land
>>>>> belonging to the landed gentry / celebs who reside along the Thames
>>>>> banks.
>>>>
>>>> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
>>>> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
>>>> motorcycle.  164mph.
>>>>
>>>> People are incredible.
>>>
>>> So are their guide dogs.
>>>
>>
>> I didn't know guide dogs could run that fast.
>>
> BTN !
>

Accepted

john

In message <uj4v0t$28aa7$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:39:09,
John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>On 16/11/2023 10:30, BrritSki wrote:
>> On 16/11/2023 08:33, Sally Thompson wrote:
>>> Jim Easterbrook <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:
>>>>
[]
>>>>> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
>>>>> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
>>>>> motorcycle.  164mph.
>>>>>
>>>>> People are incredible.

Indeed! (My friend worked on the internal IT helpdesk for the local
council, and most who used him didn't know he was blind.)
>>>>
>>>> So are their guide dogs.
>>>>
Though not all of them have or need guide dogs, and those who don't
sometimes get a little fed up with the assumption that they do - though
usually hide it, as they know people only mean well.

I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
(he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
"oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
guide dog.

(The male half of my blind friends has excellent perception of his
surroundings - particularly hearing; he can "hear" things like lampposts
and other obstructions, presumably from their reflections of ambient
noise. The female half doesn't, but being female, petite, and blind
doesn't go out _much_ on her own [she'd go to the local shops, or on the
bus to town for a specific purpose] anyway. They both feel that the
inconveniences of looking after a dog - apart from anything else, they
have a fairly small house - would significantly outweigh the
advantages.)
>>>
>>> I didn't know guide dogs could run that fast.

LOL!
>>>
>> BTN !
>>
>
>Accepted
>
>john

I didn't think of BT when I read the line, just chuckled!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

<Squawk> Pieces of eight!
<Squawk> Pieces of eight!
<Squawk> Pieces of nine!
<SYSTEM HALTED: parroty error!>

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <uj4v0t$28aa7$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:39:09,
> John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>> On 16/11/2023 10:30, BrritSki wrote:
>>> On 16/11/2023 08:33, Sally Thompson wrote:
>>>> Jim Easterbrook <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:
>>>>>
> []
>>>>>> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
>>>>>> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
>>>>>> motorcycle.  164mph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People are incredible.
>
> Indeed! (My friend worked on the internal IT helpdesk for the local
> council, and most who used him didn't know he was blind.)
>>>>>
>>>>> So are their guide dogs.
>>>>>
> Though not all of them have or need guide dogs, and those who don't
> sometimes get a little fed up with the assumption that they do - though
> usually hide it, as they know people only mean well.
>
> I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
> R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
> the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
> wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
> (he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
> "oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
> words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
> entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
> guide dog.
>
> (The male half of my blind friends has excellent perception of his
> surroundings - particularly hearing; he can "hear" things like lampposts
> and other obstructions, presumably from their reflections of ambient
> noise. The female half doesn't, but being female, petite, and blind
> doesn't go out _much_ on her own [she'd go to the local shops, or on the
> bus to town for a specific purpose] anyway. They both feel that the
> inconveniences of looking after a dog - apart from anything else, they
> have a fairly small house - would significantly outweigh the
> advantages.)
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know guide dogs could run that fast.
>
> LOL!
>>>>
>>> BTN !
>>>
>>
>> Accepted
>>
>> john
>
> I didn't think of BT when I read the line, just chuckled!

I asked Peter White when we were in the studio with him one day about ‘had
he considered a guide dog?’ He had considered, yes but felt he was fine
without one - so the London Tube is safe as fa as he is concerned.

When my cataract was problematical to the extent I was experiencing
considerable difficulty crossing a ver busy main road on my way to work,
the social service worker was encouraging me to ask for a guide dog; I said
to them that the road I cross is so busy, the dog would probably fall
asleep waiting for a safe opportunity to cross! I then started using a
white cane for the express purpose of crossing that road.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <uj4v0t$28aa7$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:39:09,
> John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>> On 16/11/2023 10:30, BrritSki wrote:
>>> On 16/11/2023 08:33, Sally Thompson wrote:
>>>> Jim Easterbrook <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:
>>>>>
> []
>>>>>> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
>>>>>> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
>>>>>> motorcycle.  164mph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People are incredible.
>
> Indeed! (My friend worked on the internal IT helpdesk for the local
> council, and most who used him didn't know he was blind.)
>>>>>
>>>>> So are their guide dogs.
>>>>>
> Though not all of them have or need guide dogs, and those who don't
> sometimes get a little fed up with the assumption that they do - though
> usually hide it, as they know people only mean well.
>
> I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
> R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
> the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
> wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
> (he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
> "oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
> words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
> entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
> guide dog.
>
> (The male half of my blind friends has excellent perception of his
> surroundings - particularly hearing; he can "hear" things like lampposts
> and other obstructions, presumably from their reflections of ambient
> noise. The female half doesn't, but being female, petite, and blind
> doesn't go out _much_ on her own [she'd go to the local shops, or on the
> bus to town for a specific purpose] anyway. They both feel that the
> inconveniences of looking after a dog - apart from anything else, they
> have a fairly small house - would significantly outweigh the
> advantages.)
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know guide dogs could run that fast.
>
> LOL!
>>>>
>>> BTN !
>>>
>>
>> Accepted
>>
>> john
>
> I didn't think of BT when I read the line, just chuckled!

I asked Peter White when we were in the studio with him one day about ‘had
he considered a guide dog?’ He had considered, yes but felt he was fine
without one - so the London Tube is safe as fa as he is concerned.

When my cataract was problematical to the extent I was experiencing
considerable difficulty crossing a ver busy main road on my way to work,
the social service worker was encouraging me to ask for a guide dog; I said
to them that the road I cross is so busy, the dog would probably fall
asleep waiting for a safe opportunity to cross! I then started using a
white cane for the express purpose of crossing that road.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <uj4v0t$28aa7$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:39:09,
> John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>> On 16/11/2023 10:30, BrritSki wrote:
>>> On 16/11/2023 08:33, Sally Thompson wrote:
>>>> Jim Easterbrook <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:15:29 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney wrote:
>>>>>
> []
>>>>>> I may have posted about this before, but I vaguely knew a guy called
>>>>>> Billy Baxter, who held the blind solo world land speed record - on a
>>>>>> motorcycle.  164mph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People are incredible.
>
> Indeed! (My friend worked on the internal IT helpdesk for the local
> council, and most who used him didn't know he was blind.)
>>>>>
>>>>> So are their guide dogs.
>>>>>
> Though not all of them have or need guide dogs, and those who don't
> sometimes get a little fed up with the assumption that they do - though
> usually hide it, as they know people only mean well.
>
> I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
> R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
> the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
> wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
> (he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
> "oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
> words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
> entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
> guide dog.
>
> (The male half of my blind friends has excellent perception of his
> surroundings - particularly hearing; he can "hear" things like lampposts
> and other obstructions, presumably from their reflections of ambient
> noise. The female half doesn't, but being female, petite, and blind
> doesn't go out _much_ on her own [she'd go to the local shops, or on the
> bus to town for a specific purpose] anyway. They both feel that the
> inconveniences of looking after a dog - apart from anything else, they
> have a fairly small house - would significantly outweigh the
> advantages.)
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know guide dogs could run that fast.
>
> LOL!
>>>>
>>> BTN !
>>>
>>
>> Accepted
>>
>> john
>
> I didn't think of BT when I read the line, just chuckled!

It was Peter White, yes. I’ve heard the tale several times. Yes,
echolocation is something many people with very little or no sight can
develop and surprisingly quickly. I think it comes naturally because when
I asked a friend who’s been totally blind since he was 9, he said he did.
His wife does, and she didn’t lose her most of sight till she was 14. It
explains to a degree why people walk confidently with a long cane. What I
also assume is that now that we have audio described maps one uses
headphones for, the echolocation has gone by the board.

In the US, mobility training is *brutal* but works. Everyone is
blindfolded as a matter of course and everyone must learn to navigate using
their hearing. In China, if one’s lucky to be treated as a human with
sight loss, they’ll be trained to use their hearing: a tall enough order in
itself. At the end of training, they’re sent off on a long trip of several
miles in their city with long cane and mobile. They can only ask one
person one question apparently. Or so I’ve read.

My on the ground knowledge which is the blind teaching others (and they
teach to UK standards) is some weeks hard graft but will include more than
just mobility going A to B, but going in a restaurant, and one or two
other basics, then those people return to their home city able to teach
others. The downside, there’s no formal certificate so it might well
deteriorate as the chain lengthens. Typical of the world, there’ll be one
year where money’s given for formal training, then withdrawn once the
officials have smirked at the cameras. The photo only articles I’ve read
where it’s all about the sighted staff, not the guide dog and owner is
unbelievable.

Mrs McT

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:24:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
>R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
>the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
>wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
>(he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
>"oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
>words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
>entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
>guide dog.

I've been deprived of umra by the news server for a few days (again), or I
might have suggested you listen to the Desert Island Discs repeat this
morning, to hear Peter relate that story himself.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

On 17.11.23 09:14, Chris wrote:
> Yes,
> echolocation is something many people with very little or no sight can
> develop and surprisingly quickly. I think it comes naturally because when
> I asked a friend who’s been totally blind since he was 9, he said he did.
> His wife does, and she didn’t lose her most of sight till she was 14.

Stephanie's hearing improved as her sight worsened. It was explained to
us that her brain was no longer receiving information from the optic
nerve (which was being destroyed by the Batten's) and her brain had
capacity to apply to better processing of the delivery of information
via the aural nerves.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

In message <7qnalipopvkhin0i4nd5d8bj1gquue0vdf@4ax.com> at Thu, 16 Nov
2023 00:18:22, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:24:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
>>R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
>>the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
>>wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
>>(he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
>>"oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
>>words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
>>entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
>>guide dog.
>
>I've been deprived of umra by the news server for a few days (again), or I
>might have suggested you listen to the Desert Island Discs repeat this
>morning, to hear Peter relate that story himself.

It was from him - I think on an In Touch - that I heard it originally.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"You _are_ Zaphod Beeblebrox? _The_ Zaphod Beeblebrox?"
"No, just _a_ Zaphod Beeblebrox. I come in six-packs." (from the link episode)

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:18:22 +0000, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:24:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
>>R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
>>the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
>>wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
>>(he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
>>"oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
>>words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
>>entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
>>guide dog.
>
>I've been deprived of umra by the news server for a few days (again), or I
>might have suggested you listen to the Desert Island Discs repeat this
>morning, to hear Peter relate that story himself.

Since you have mentioned Peter White's Desert Island Disc programme,
would this be a good point to ask whether umrats have been listening
to the Thursday afternoon Legends documentary?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ryq1

I write as a long time fan - a very long time fan - and I think this
is probably the very worst musical biopod that I have ever
experienced. I keep listening because I am a very long time fan but I
also keep asking myself why I keep punishing myself in this way? Does
anybody else have any thoughts?

Nick

On 17.11.23 14:04, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:18:22 +0000, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:24:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
>>> R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
>>> the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
>>> wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
>>> (he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
>>> "oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
>>> words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
>>> entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
>>> guide dog.
>>
>> I've been deprived of umra by the news server for a few days (again), or I
>> might have suggested you listen to the Desert Island Discs repeat this
>> morning, to hear Peter relate that story himself.
>
> Since you have mentioned Peter White's Desert Island Disc programme,
> would this be a good point to ask whether umrats have been listening
> to the Thursday afternoon Legends documentary?
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ryq1
>
> I write as a long time fan - a very long time fan - and I think this
> is probably the very worst musical biopod that I have ever
> experienced. I keep listening because I am a very long time fan but I
> also keep asking myself why I keep punishing myself in this way? Does
> anybody else have any thoughts?
>
> Nick

I will let you know when I get there. I have downloaded a lot of JM
material that was broadcast whilst I was Stateside of the Pond and so I
am a little behind with listening at the moment.

OTOH I have now seen Nashville, Chattanooga, Casey Jones, Memphis,
Graceland, Atlanta, Houston and New Orleans (not in that order) and have
eaten gumbo etc.

Very good holiday.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:23:48 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

>On 17.11.23 14:04, Nick Odell wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:18:22 +0000, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:24:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>
>>>> I remember the chap (Peter White I think) who presents "in touch", the
>>>> R4 prog. for the VH/VI and those interested in the subject, recounting
>>>> the following tale - whether true or not, I don't know: once, when
>>>> wandering round the London Underground, someone asked where his dog was
>>>> (he didn't have one), and - maybe he was having a bad day - he replied
>>>> "oh! I've left him on the train!". To which the person replied with
>>>> words that made his blood run cold: "don't worry." He had visions of the
>>>> entire tube network being brought to a halt, in search of a non-existent
>>>> guide dog.
>>>
>>> I've been deprived of umra by the news server for a few days (again), or I
>>> might have suggested you listen to the Desert Island Discs repeat this
>>> morning, to hear Peter relate that story himself.
>>
>> Since you have mentioned Peter White's Desert Island Disc programme,
>> would this be a good point to ask whether umrats have been listening
>> to the Thursday afternoon Legends documentary?
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ryq1
>>
>> I write as a long time fan - a very long time fan - and I think this
>> is probably the very worst musical biopod that I have ever
>> experienced. I keep listening because I am a very long time fan but I
>> also keep asking myself why I keep punishing myself in this way? Does
>> anybody else have any thoughts?
>>
>> Nick
>
>I will let you know when I get there. I have downloaded a lot of JM
>material that was broadcast whilst I was Stateside of the Pond and so I
>am a little behind with listening at the moment.
>
>OTOH I have now seen Nashville, Chattanooga, Casey Jones, Memphis,
>Graceland, Atlanta, Houston and New Orleans (not in that order) and have
>eaten gumbo etc.
>
Of those, I've only visited Nashville and because the Greyhound was so
late I missed the opportunity to look around the city and all I saw of
it was the bus station. Still, it was a very nice bus station.

Did you have grits? I had grits in Dallas. Never again.

>Very good holiday.

Delighted that you had such a good time. US politics may be a tad
bizarre for our tastes but US people are, in my opinion, delightful
and their places and scenery are spectacular.

Nick