I took screenshots of all the steps in my previous post
and I was on the Administrators Account when I tried this.
I was trying to access the User Account and was denied:

https://postimg.cc/Xp2PBQh3

https://postimg.cc/fSRKwhMd

https://postimg.cc/1nJG7YD3

https://postimg.cc/cg4Y3MPy

I checked the security tabs:

https://postimg.cc/r0kTZfM3

I blocked out the numbers of the Account Unknown
for safety but I have them if you need them.

https://postimg.cc/dhZKqb0g

https://postimg.cc/qgvSJPbQ

https://postimg.cc/zyKP28vD

https://postimg.cc/CBPvnKP7

https://postimg.cc/Mct5gTSw

https://postimg.cc/K1DDgz4T

I then tried the Administrators Account

https://postimg.cc/nCZs91md

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

I don't understand, I was in the Administrator Account
trying to access the User Account and it still denied me.

Could the problem be sharing? It says not shared.

https://postimg.cc/0KJQB0Kv

Robert

On 10/21/2023 5:42 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I don't understand, I was in the Administrator Account
> trying to access the User Account and it still denied me.
>
> Could the problem be sharing? It says not shared.
>
> https://postimg.cc/0KJQB0Kv
>
> Robert
>

There is a tick box in the Macrium mounter dialog, to remove permissions
and make your files easier to access as K: .

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/RZHmJb4b/macrium-remove-permissions.gif

*******

The recent spam attacks originating from Google, have caused
the USENET Admins to build spam filters.

While ordinary messages from Google Groups make it through,
some messages are getting dropped. This is termed a "false positive",
as a perfectly ordinary message can be falsely accused of being spam.

This means comms, my ability to see your questions,
is potentially hampered now. I don't think yours are being
dropped, but this is just a warning that if I don't reply,
maybe I can't see it.

Paul

Oh man,.... that's not good news. It's bad enough with all the servers
going but now as you say you may not be able to even see my posts
at some point!? I hope this isn't going to happen.

If it does do you have any advice now? I do my mrimgs every month,
but is there anything else you want me to do should you stop seeing my
messages? I couldn't replace the PSU alone should that fail even though
I have two spares.

I'll try the mrimg again and let you know how it goes.

I'll order the 6TB hd and external case next week and I'd appreciate it if
you could help me set it up.

Thanks,
Robert

I tried the mrimg again but this time it didn't give me the browse option:

https://postimg.cc/47P5YH6k
however I managed to navigate to the mrimgs and change the drive letter to K:
but it didn't give me the screen to enable access to restricted folders yet I
was able to access them and copy/pasted 'My Documents' from the K drive
to the C: drive.

You know how it opens a dialog box and shows the files being transferred
from one folder to the next? It did that at first but now the 'files' are frozen
between folders and there's no apparent transfer happening. Also when the
transfer completes it should close or tell me something, correct? I'm afraid
to do anything since I've gotten this far with it but it seems like it's not responding.
It just says, File operation in progress, please wait but there's no movement.
It's been like this for about an hour now. What should I do?
Thoughts, suggestions?
Robert

I got the 780 out of the not responding state then
I tried dismounting the K: drive by right clicking but
when I do it says Open, Properties, Refresh

What's going on ? Why did mine change? I did all this
before and it was OK?

I successfully transferred 'My Documents' but they went
to the Administrator's Account so I'm copy/pasting it again
to the User Account. 3 hrs 30 mins,.. that's the same amount
of time it takes for the mrimgs for the 8500.

Should I try browsing again to see if I can dismount the K:
and L: drives? It's weird it doesn't say Macrium when I right click

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

I've successfully transferred My Documents and the bookmarks
to the 780 with your good help but I still need to unmount K:
and L: drives from the 6TB external hd.

It's weird that the drop down box didn't have the 'Browse for image
or backup file to restore' option. However I found it lower on the screen
in a box on the right and that's how I gained access. but the K: and L:
drives are still unmounted and I need to use another letter to dismount
them. I'll give it another try but so far it's not giving me the Macrium
option when I right click the drives?

I'll try again and let you know how it goes.

Are there any other tests you want me to do with regard to the
humming from the 8500? It hasn't happened since but I was
just wondering.

I'll order the 6TB hd and case Wed and should be here in a week
or so.

Thanks,
Robert

I tried it again and again it didn't give me the option
but I see it in the middle of the page where the arrow is.
That's what I clicked on but when I got to the point of
changing drives to unmount K: and L: they were there !?
How could they be there if I didn't unmount them previously?

https://postimg.cc/5XGgfwbX

https://postimg.cc/JDQjHJVc

Also when I brought over 'My Documents this popped up
but I just closed it.

https://postimg.cc/KkQg82B0

Robert

On 10/22/2023 10:28 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I got the 780 out of the not responding state then
> I tried dismounting the K: drive by right clicking but
> when I do it says Open, Properties, Refresh
>
> What's going on ? Why did mine change? I did all this
> before and it was OK?
>
> I successfully transferred 'My Documents' but they went
> to the Administrator's Account so I'm copy/pasting it again
> to the User Account. 3 hrs 30 mins,.. that's the same amount
> of time it takes for the mrimgs for the 8500.
>
> Should I try browsing again to see if I can dismount the K:
> and L: drives? It's weird it doesn't say Macrium when I right click
>
> Thoughts/suggestions?
> Robert
>

When you run Macrium, the Restore button needs to be clicked,
so the Restore menu items will be there. Then, you should
be able to browse for something.

The K: can be dismounted from File Explorer. Right click on K:
and look for the Macrium item. The Macrium item should be
present, if you are clicking on a Macrium item (such as K: ).

Paul

On 10/23/2023 4:37 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
> I've successfully transferred My Documents and the bookmarks
> to the 780 with your good help but I still need to unmount K:
> and L: drives from the 6TB external hd.
>
> It's weird that the drop down box didn't have the 'Browse for image
> or backup file to restore' option. However I found it lower on the screen
> in a box on the right and that's how I gained access. but the K: and L:
> drives are still unmounted and I need to use another letter to dismount
> them. I'll give it another try but so far it's not giving me the Macrium
> option when I right click the drives?
>
> I'll try again and let you know how it goes.
>
> Are there any other tests you want me to do with regard to the
> humming from the 8500? It hasn't happened since but I was
> just wondering.
>
> I'll order the 6TB hd and case Wed and should be here in a week
> or so.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
>

The K: and L: should be dismount-able from File Explorer.
Right-click on the drives, in the left-hand pane.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/FH8fh4Qs/Unmount-Macrium-K.gif

Paul

On 10/23/2023 5:04 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I tried it again and again it didn't give me the option
> but I see it in the middle of the page where the arrow is.
> That's what I clicked on but when I got to the point of
> changing drives to unmount K: and L: they were there !?
> How could they be there if I didn't unmount them previously?
>
> https://postimg.cc/5XGgfwbX
>
> https://postimg.cc/JDQjHJVc
>
> Also when I brought over 'My Documents this popped up
> but I just closed it.
>
> https://postimg.cc/KkQg82B0
>
> Robert
>

I don't know what would trigger that.
If you were just copying some files and not executing something.

Paul

I tried again, and did as you instructed. The first picture I clicked
the Restore Tab and it's the same as before. The second picture I
clicked the Backup Tab

https://postimg.cc/NL1jP09m

https://postimg.cc/ZvZ4hrB3

What am I doing wrong? I did this the first time and was exactly as
you say but the browse option disappeared.

Also in passing I noticed I have a Apple Software Update on the 780
which I don't have on the 8500. There's also SequoiaView which if I
remember correctly you used it to find that huge program that was eating
up GB's when the 780 should of been like 50GB it was like 350GB.

Should I remove these programs?

Thanks,
Robert

There's also another problem per se on the 8500.
Sometimes it seems to lag loading programs. Like
a YouTube video. Sometimes it takes forever to
load a page and I'll have to reload it to get it to go.
Other times I get this page:

https://postimg.cc/SnGpBYdB

Sometimes this is probably caused by me leaving the
computer sitting for too long while I take a break but
once going it shouldn't have these problems should it?

Robert

I tried again with another Rescue CD but it gave me
the same thing.

https://postimg.cc/NL1jP09m

Why and how did it change? The first time I did it it
had the browse for image as you describe and all
went well but now it's gone?

I do see it in another part of the screen, center of the
page and another lower right but we can't use either?

So how do I fix this?

Thanks
Robert

On 10/24/2023 8:07 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I tried again with another Rescue CD but it gave me
> the same thing.
>
> https://postimg.cc/NL1jP09m
>
> Why and how did it change? The first time I did it it
> had the browse for image as you describe and all
> went well but now it's gone?
>
> I do see it in another part of the screen, center of the
> page and another lower right but we can't use either?
>
> So how do I fix this?
>
> Thanks
> Robert
>

The menus can be slightly different, in the OS screen
versus the CD-provided screen. This is me running the CD.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/mrzbj3Nr/Macrium-Rescue-CD-browse.gif

Copying a few files from K: to C: is best done while C: is booted.

Restoring an entire hard drive image, over top of C: , that
is when you use the Rescue CD.

Paul

On 10/24/2023 1:00 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
> There's also another problem per se on the 8500.
> Sometimes it seems to lag loading programs. Like
> a YouTube video. Sometimes it takes forever to
> load a page and I'll have to reload it to get it to go.
> Other times I get this page:
>
> https://postimg.cc/SnGpBYdB
>
> Sometimes this is probably caused by me leaving the
> computer sitting for too long while I take a break but
> once going it shouldn't have these problems should it?
>
> Robert
>

This can be a networking problem.

In a Command Prompt or Powershell terminal window (doesn't have to be elevated)

ipconfig <=== this shows your IPV4 and IPV6 addresses
if the hardware has them. My setup for example,
only has IPV4. I have the usual normal equipment
to switch to doing both -- if I wanted that.
These are local LAN addresses, typically non-routable.

nslookup www.example.com <=== This is how you check the addresses of Internet servers
Now, we're on the other side of your router, sniffing the Internet.

You can do this in your browser if you want,
so this is basically pseudocode in a sense.
It means "do it in your browser".

firefox https://www.whatismyip.net/ <=== This tests "how you are connecting to the web"

Your Information
IP Address: 105.200.150.175 <=== I connected via IPV4
"DO NOT" pay attention to any scary red text on the page :-)
We just want to see whether it tried IPV4 or IPV6 first.
Most other info is irrelevant to our purpose. Some of
the info on that web site, is just wrong.

For example, when I tried to use this site, it was slow.

PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2 <=== was only making IPV6 available at the time I checked

Later when I checked, it was doing this, and I connected via IPV4
and the time to become connected was reduced. Presumably it is the
time for the DNS lookup which is taking longer, it prefers IPV4
over IPV6 and tries that first.

PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2 \___ The server supports both now.
135.181.20.170 / Your machine may try one type, before the other type.
if one of those is not available, it could be slower.

DNS is also subject to a lot of shenanigans, which
is why they are experimenting with other DNS servers
with features such as DNS-over-TLS (secure in-flight lookups).
But that doesn't make it faster. That's just noting
that if there were ever a war, DNS would likely get
broken right away. And you probably would not be
watching Youtube then. If you had collected addresses
using "nslookup" and had written them down, you
could still attempt connect to specific servers.

firefox http://135.181.20.170 # Now, it doesn't need DNS to work
# Without a symbolic name, the certificate to make
# a https: would not work, so try http: access first.

It's delightfully messy, but it does pay to "prepare your go-bag"
for times when the Internet is not working. For example, my
ISP has a "status page", and you definitely want the IP address
of the status page, so you can check for known network anomalies.

IP addresses can be reassigned at any time, which is
why we prefer symbolic addresses "news.eternal-september.org"
instead of "135.181.20.170". Maybe tomorrow, that machine won't
be at 135.181.20.170 . But, in the event of an emergency condition,
think carefully about what nodes you might want to access, and
write those down in your Notes file.

Paul

I was using the Rescue CD to do this so I tried it
by just opening Macrium and there was the prompt.

This is how I must of done it before but for some
reason I started using the Rescue CD which changed it.

However the K: and L: were there? How could they
be there if I didn't un-mount them?

https://postimg.cc/w1yPwMmS

https://postimg.cc/DSXjqDVh

https://postimg.cc/Cdxcvdym

https://postimg.cc/kVCcWgFN

Robert

I did the ipconfig command and this is what it shows:

https://postimg.cc/XXDt8Cvk

I did the whatismyip.net and it showed the exact location
and my IP address.

As far as IP address I don't have any control over mine
which is all numbers. I'm not following you with the nodes
to access and write down. Do you mean programs? Sites?

Thanks,
Robert

On 10/25/2023 4:45 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I was using the Rescue CD to do this so I tried it
> by just opening Macrium and there was the prompt.
>
> This is how I must of done it before but for some
> reason I started using the Rescue CD which changed it.
>
> However the K: and L: were there? How could they
> be there if I didn't un-mount them?
>
>
> https://postimg.cc/w1yPwMmS
>
> https://postimg.cc/DSXjqDVh
>
> https://postimg.cc/Cdxcvdym
>
> https://postimg.cc/kVCcWgFN
>
>
> Robert
>

Postimage isn't working right now, but I can tell
you the K: and L: , they can be unmounted from
File Explorer, but they can also be unmounted any
time you reboot.

If you need to copy files from K: the next time
you boot, you would have to mount the MRING file
again to do that. And the K: "letter" should be
available to do it.

Paul

Since I've rebooted several times since then they've been
unmounted so it's OK and I can use the K: or L: drives if I
need to copy/paste?

I don't know if this has anything to do with with the lag
problem but earlier today I bid on an item on eBay and
clicked the bid button but the dialog box opened only
partially and was all grayed out so I wasn't able to bid
and lost the item. It never did open up completely.

That's the first time that's ever happened.

Robert

Postimage seems fine on my end.

Robert

So if I want to copy/paste a file from the mrimgs
I do not use the Rescue CD. I use it only to create
clone, and restore, correct?

I ordered the 6TB hd and case and should be
here in a week or so.

Once I get the 6TB hd I clone it and then put it
inside the 780 to boot. Making it a boot-able hd,
correct?

By nodes do you mean the actual address of
interested sites e.g. www.example.com?

In passing, I noticed I have a Apple Software
Update on the 780 which I don't have on the
8500. There's also SequoiaView which if I
remember correctly you used it to find that
huge program that was eating up GB's when
the 780 should of been like 50GB it was like
350GB.

Should I remove these programs?

I got this screen again and I had just logged on.

https://postimg.cc/pmzZpCXy

Robert

On 10/25/2023 8:40 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> So if I want to copy/paste a file from the mrimgs
> I do not use the Rescue CD. I use it only to create
> clone, and restore, correct?
>
> I ordered the 6TB hd and case and should be
> here in a week or so.
>
> Once I get the 6TB hd I clone it and then put it
> inside the 780 to boot. Making it a boot-able hd,
> correct?
>
> By nodes do you mean the actual address of
> interested sites e.g. www.example.com?
>
> In passing, I noticed I have a Apple Software
> Update on the 780 which I don't have on the
> 8500. There's also SequoiaView which if I
> remember correctly you used it to find that
> huge program that was eating up GB's when
> the 780 should of been like 50GB it was like
> 350GB.
>
> Should I remove these programs?
>
> I got this screen again and I had just logged on.
>
> https://postimg.cc/pmzZpCXy
>
> Robert
>

You can enter "somesite.com" style into this web page,
and it may be able to tell you how often the site is down.

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/

Sometimes the Windows firewall is not loading, but if that
was the case, the browser likely wouldn't run, rather
than the window opening and pretending to be ready for usage.

The site in question, only has an IPV4 address and no IPV6 address.
This isn't particularly important.

OK, now this is interesting.

PS> nslookup righteouswarriors.com

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: righteouswarriors.com
Address: 208.180.89.69 <=== an IPV4 address

PS> ping 208.180.89.69

Pinging 208.180.89.69 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Yet the entry web page paints in a web browser.
And the transaction seems to use TLS 1.2 .

I would rate the site, "not 100% normal". Due to the ping failing to work.

isitdownrightnow says it is working, and the web browser says it is working.

Paul

I have my 6 TB hd and now just waiting for the case.
Then I'll try cloning it.

Here's your instructions for cloning but as I say
they have automated the mrimg backups allot so I
think it may be the same with cloning.

https://postimg.cc/ft67JpfL

https://postimg.cc/8sZJKq6r

https://postimg.cc/wtnFm16g

https://postimg.cc/xNV2tjPS

https://postimg.cc/TKgHJj4h

https://postimg.cc/qg2h0zSy

https://postimg.cc/RNQPD1BY

https://postimg.cc/JtdJ4GQh

https://postimg.cc/3dcPBCFH

https://postimg.cc/FY2z2SmM

https://postimg.cc/CZgYGswx

https://postimg.cc/yDqzKygy

I typed somesite.com and this is what it showed:

https://postimg.cc/SXPKWz1T

It's interesting you looked up Righteous Warriors,
It was started by someone I use to know and I was
surprised it still was up. I tried contacting him but
never got a reply.

I barely am understanding you with the IPV4 and
IPV6 addresses. I'm trying to follow along.

Is there anything you want me to do? Run any
tests?

Thanks,
Robert

I removed the Apple programs from the 780 but kept
SequoiaView. You never know, I may need it again.

Hopefully, we can get the 6TB hd up and running before
Nov 1 for the mrimgs.

Robert