On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:34:15 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<me@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>
>> On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
>>
>>> Hibou wrote:
>>>
>>>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
>>>> heard of.
>>>>
>>>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
>>>
>>> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
>>> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
>>> nations?
>>>
>>> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
>>> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
>>> "-er".
>>>
>>> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
>>> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
>>
>> Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we don't
>> talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
>
>There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
>I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.

Greenlander, perhaps?

And New Yorker.

On 2024-04-14 14:41:39 +0000, Ken Blake said:

> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:34:15 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>>
>>> On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
>>>
>>>> Hibou wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
>>>>> heard of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
>>>>
>>>> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
>>>> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
>>>> nations?
>>>>
>>>> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
>>>> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
>>>> "-er".
>>>>
>>>> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
>>>> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
>>>
>>> Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we
>>> don't>> talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
>>
>> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today,
>> and>I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
>
>
> Greenlander, perhaps?

Yes
>
> And New Yorker.

If count New Yorker, you need count other words from cities:
Frankfurter, Hamburger, Berliner etc.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

On 2024-04-14, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> On 2024-04-13 23:58:29 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>
>> On 14/04/24 00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-13 13:17:24 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>>>
>>>> On 13/04/24 20:55, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I have a little Tok Pisin (Papua New Guinea Pidgin) - to -
>>>>>> German phrasebook which is part of a series called
>>>>>> Kauderwelsch-Sprechführer (Peter-Rump-Verlag). I thought at
>>>>>> first the term was being used for pidgins etc., but all the
>>>>>> other titles in the series seem to be for proper languages
>>>>>> (Indonesian, Turkish, Portuguese etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. It is an enormous series. Some of the volumes in the seies
>>>>> are for slang variants, like 'British Slang – das andere
>>>>> Englisch'
>>>>
>>>> Don't knock such books. When I was a student learning French, I
>>>> came across a book of French slang. It taught me a few new words,
>>>> giving me an understanding of the verbs "se ficher" and "se foutre"
>>>> that weren't covered in formal classes. On a camping trip, I
>>>> managed to use the terms "papier cul" and "les chiottes" that I
>>>> hadn't learnt in class.
>>>
>>> And you doubtless learned that "baiser" doesn't mean what you were
>>> taught at school.
>>
>> We would have studied some older novels, so no doubt we encountered
>> "baiser" with its traditional and respectable meaning.
>>
>> Something I find interesting is that *as a verb* baiser now can only
>> mean "fuck", but the *noun* baiser continues to be perfectly
>> respectable. One's maiden aunt still says "Donne-moi un baiser".
>
> Yes, but "Donne-moi un bizou" is becoming more common.

I wonder if that's because it doesn't sound like the verb.

--
Not even computers will replace committees, because committees buy
computers. ---Shepherd Mead

On 2024-04-14, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>
>> On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
>>
>>> Hibou wrote:
>>>
>>>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
>>>> heard of.
>>>>
>>>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
>>>
>>> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
>>> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
>>> nations?
>>>
>>> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
>>> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
>>> "-er".
>>>
>>> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
>>> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
>>
>> Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we don't
>> talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
>
> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
> I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.

Even the Wagner opera is generally (always?) translated into English
as "The Flying Dutchman".

--
....the reason why so many professional artists drink a lot is not
necessarily very much to do with the artistic temperament, etc. It is
simply that they can afford to, because they can normally take a large
part of a day off to deal with the ravages. ---Amis _On Drink_

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> On 2024-04-14 09:49:07 +0000, LionelEdwards said:

>> jerryfriedman wrote:
>>
>>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2024-04-12 14:09:38 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:
>>> ...
>>
>>>>> Dutch does have 'Koeterwaals', for impossible to understand language.
>>>>> From German 'Kauderwelsch' perhaps from 'Churer Welsch',
>>>>> the Romance language spoken in the Swiss canton Chur.
>>>>> (so not from Belgian 'Waals/Wallon')
>>>>> It may be cognate with English 'Welsh'.
>>
>>>> I have the idea that Welsh, Waals/Wallon, Vlach, Welschland and others
>>>> are all cognate and come from a word meaning "foreign".
>>> ...
>>
>>> Yep. Another one is "walnut", not native to Britain.
>> Also "Walton on Thames", settlement of the welsh who chose not to flee
>> the Roman invasion.

> Along with other similar examples: Wallington, Wallingford, Wallasey

And I am wrong. They were not people who "chose not to flee the Roman
invasion". Being Roman was inclusive and meant no more than simply
living within the Roman Empire. Much as today "being a Londoner" doesn't
imply anything other than a feeling.

They elected not to become Roman. What have the Romans ever done for us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

On 14-Apr-24 12:42, Janet wrote:
> In article <uvfq0t$3g0a5$1@dont-email.me>,
> gadekryds@lundhansen.dk says...
>>
>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>>> Not at all. Ships can be obviously male, like Hood and and Bismarck,
>>> and still be refered to as 'she'.
>>
>> Aren't Hood and Bismarck lastnames?
>
> Shirley the Hood was named for Little Red Riding Hood

That apart, I don't seen anything particularly masculine about those two
ships (nor HMS King George V, for that matter).

--
Sam Plusnet

Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>
> > On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
> >
> >> Hibou wrote:
> >>
> >>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
> >>> heard of.
> >>>
> >>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
> >>
> >> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
> >> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
> >> nations?
> >>
> >> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
> >> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
> >> "-er".
> >>
> >> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
> >> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
> >
> > Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we don't
> > talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
>
> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
> I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.

'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
in various local variants. For example 'Oranda' in Japan.
And even in Belgium. Pronounce as 'Ollander',
without a trace of an 'h'. Be adequately denigrating.
In France they use 'Hollandais' and Neerlandais' interchangeably, afaik.

Jan

Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-14, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>
> > On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
> >>
> >>> Hibou wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
> >>>> heard of.
> >>>>
> >>>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
> >>>
> >>> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
> >>> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
> >>> nations?
> >>>
> >>> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
> >>> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
> >>> "-er".
> >>>
> >>> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
> >>> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
> >>
> >> Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we don't
> >> talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
> >
> > There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
> > I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
>
> Even the Wagner opera is generally (always?) translated into English
> as "The Flying Dutchman".

Yes, that is a bit surprising. There really is no reason for that.

I think you should blame KLM,

Jan

On 14/04/24 21:41, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
>
>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>>> Not at all. Ships can be obviously male, like Hood and and Bismarck,
>>> and still be refered to as 'she'.
>>
>> Aren't Hood and Bismarck lastnames?
>
> You want the Sloop John B instead?

I see your John B, and raise you the Good Ship Venus.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

On 15/04/24 05:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
> in various local variants. For example 'Oranda' in Japan.
> And even in Belgium. Pronounce as 'Ollander',
> without a trace of an 'h'. Be adequately denigrating.
> In France they use 'Hollandais' and Neerlandais' interchangeably, afaik.

The Belgians, however, are close enough to know that Hollanders are only
a subset of Nederlanders.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

On 15/04/24 00:41, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:34:15 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today,
>> and I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
>
> Greenlander, perhaps?
>
> And New Yorker.

Once you bring city names into the picture, the endings wander all over
the shop. Australia has Sydneysider, Melbournite, Crow-eater, ...

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Novocastrian

J. J. Lodder wrote:

>> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
>> I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
>
> 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
> in various local variants.

In Danmark we say "hollænder" and "Holland" about the country. Some
Danes say "Nederlandene", but I don't know how many, and I have never
seen or heard "Nederlænder".

--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark

Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 15/04/24 05:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> > 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
> > in various local variants. For example 'Oranda' in Japan.
> > And even in Belgium. Pronounce as 'Ollander',
> > without a trace of an 'h'. Be adequately denigrating.
> > In France they use 'Hollandais' and Neerlandais' interchangeably, afaik.
>
> The Belgians, however, are close enough to know that Hollanders are only
> a subset of Nederlanders.

Nonsense. All of them are 'Ollander,
if better terms like 'Kaaskoppen' are to be avoided,

Jan

On 2024-04-14, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>>
>> > On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
>> >
>> >> Hibou wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
>> >>> heard of.
>> >>>
>> >>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
>> >>
>> >> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
>> >> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
>> >> nations?
>> >>
>> >> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
>> >> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
>> >> "-er".
>> >>
>> >> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
>> >> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
>> >
>> > Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we don't
>> > talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
>>
>> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
>> I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
>
> 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
> in various local variants. For example 'Oranda' in Japan.
> And even in Belgium. Pronounce as 'Ollander',
> without a trace of an 'h'. Be adequately denigrating.
> In France they use 'Hollandais' and Neerlandais' interchangeably, afaik.

Well, except for the sauce.

--
Hear my laughter in your head
It's a pity, it's a shame, nothing's been said

On 15/04/2024 01:24, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 14/04/24 21:41, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not at all. Ships can be obviously male, like Hood and and Bismarck,
>>>> and still be refered to as 'she'.
>>>
>>> Aren't Hood and Bismarck lastnames?
>>
>> You want the Sloop John B instead?
>
> I see your John B, and raise you the Good Ship Venus.
>
But you can't lick the Good ship Lollipop
Er...

--
Ray
UK

Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-14, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> > Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
> >>
> >> > On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
> >> >
> >> >> Hibou wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
> >> >>> heard of.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
> >> >> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
> >> >> nations?
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
> >> >> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
> >> >> "-er".
> >> >>
> >> >> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
> >> >> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
> >> >
> >> > Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we don't
> >> > talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
> >>
> >> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
> >> I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
> >
> > 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
> > in various local variants. For example 'Oranda' in Japan.
> > And even in Belgium. Pronounce as 'Ollander',
> > without a trace of an 'h'. Be adequately denigrating.
> > In France they use 'Hollandais' and Neerlandais' interchangeably, afaik.
>
> Well, except for the sauce.

Yes, of course.
The Netherlands just didn't exist when they found it,

Jan

On 2024-04-15, Peter Moylan wrote:

> On 15/04/24 00:41, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:34:15 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>> <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today,
>>> and I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
>>
>> Greenlander, perhaps?
>>
>> And New Yorker.

New Englander but not New Englishman

> Once you bring city names into the picture, the endings wander all over
> the shop. Australia has Sydneysider, Melbournite, Crow-eater, ...

I had to look the last one up.

‘Crow-eaters’ for South Australians is still commonly used, and
refers to the magpie on the coat of arms.

...
NOTE: It’s important to mention that state and regional differences
between Australians are forgotten in a national crisis or Test
match – and when deriding the ‘Whinging Pom’.

<https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/history-culture/2013/05/slang-what-aussies-call-other-aussies/>

--
Corporations are neither physical nor metaphysical phenomena. They are
socioeconomic ploys — legally enacted game-playing — agreed upon only
between overwhelmingly powerful socioeconomic individuals and by them
imposed upon human society and its all unwitting members.
---Buckminster Fuller

On 2024-04-15, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-14, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>> > Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2024-04-14 09:31:11 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>> >>
>> >> > On 2024-04-14 09:01:10 +0000, Bertel Lund Hansen said:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hibou wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Google Books finds examples of 'Swissman', though not from authors I've
>> >> >>> heard of.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Better 'Dutchman' than 'Netherman', perhaps.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In Danish "-land" almost always results in "-lænder" [1], even for some
>> >> >> Danish regions. I know the word "Highlander". Isn't "-lander" used with
>> >> >> nations?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I tried to think of Danish words with -man, but I think that we only use
>> >> >> it with "nordmand" and "franskmand". The most productive ending is
>> >> >> "-er".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [1] Germany (Tyskland) is an exception. A German is called "en tysker".
>> >> >> That is probably inspired by the Germans' own word "Deutscher".
>> >> >
>> >> > Icelander, New Zealander, Luxemburger, maybe Liechtensteiner (we don't
>> >> > talk about Liechtensteiners much). I can't think of any others.
>> >>
>> >> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today, and
>> >> I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
>> >
>> > 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
>> > in various local variants. For example 'Oranda' in Japan.
>> > And even in Belgium. Pronounce as 'Ollander',
>> > without a trace of an 'h'. Be adequately denigrating.
>> > In France they use 'Hollandais' and Neerlandais' interchangeably, afaik.
>>
>> Well, except for the sauce.
>
> Yes, of course.
> The Netherlands just didn't exist when they found it,

The sauce is first documented in 1651. When was "Nederland(en)" first
used? (WP has "Bourgondische Nederlanden" for that area from 1384, but
it's not clear to me if the term was used at the time.)

--
We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives

Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 15/04/24 00:41, Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:34:15 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> > <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today,
> >> and I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
> >
> > Greenlander, perhaps?
> >
> > And New Yorker.
>
> Once you bring city names into the picture, the endings wander all over
> the shop. Australia has Sydneysider, Melbournite, Crow-eater, ...

My granddaughters are Sand-gropers. I still haven't forgiven my
daughter for running away to Australia to have ~my~ grandchildren.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> >> There is also Hollander, but I don't think that is much used today,
> >> and I don't think Netherlander has really caught on.
> >
> > 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
> > in various local variants.
>
> In Danmark we say "hollænder" and "Holland" about the country. Some
> Danes say "Nederlandene", but I don't know how many, and I have never
> seen or heard "Nederlænder".

I've heard of Dutchmen* referred to as "cloggies", as in træsko-wearers.
Apropos of not much: min første kone er dansk.

* My apologies if my use of this British idiom offends Netherlanders.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Sn!pe wrote:

> I've heard of Dutchmen* referred to as "cloggies", as in træsko-wearers.

Clogs are common in Denmark too, but they are not all wood. The base is
made of wood, but the cover is of leather. We call them "træsko"
(wood-shoes).

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=tr%C3%A6sko&atb=v367-1&iax=images&ia=images

> Apropos of not much: min første kone er dansk.

Okay.

--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark

Op 15/04/2024 om 2:31 schreef Peter Moylan:
> On 15/04/24 05:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
>> 'Hollander' is still the most used form, worldwide,
>> in various local variants. For example 'Oranda' in Japan.
>> And even in Belgium. Pronounce as 'Ollander',
>> without a trace of an 'h'. Be adequately denigrating.
>> In France they use 'Hollandais' and Neerlandais' interchangeably, afaik.
>
> The Belgians, however, are close enough to know that Hollanders are only
> a subset of Nederlanders.

Of course we do. 'Hollander' covers well a historical impression down here;)
In contrast, the Dutch when referring to the Flemish will say 'Belgen'.
Totum pro parte. A Belgenmop will ridicule some Fleming, not some
Walloon or Francophone. Their revenge on Hollandermoppen.

Do you know why Belgenmoppen are* such a big hit in 'Holland'?
Because they're so cheap there.

--
sans rancune ;)
* used to be, at least
guido wugi

On 15/04/24 22:09, Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2024-04-15, Peter Moylan wrote:

>> Once you bring city names into the picture, the endings wander all over
>> the shop. Australia has Sydneysider, Melbournite, Crow-eater, ...
>
> I had to look the last one up.
>
> ‘Crow-eaters’ for South Australians is still commonly used, and
> refers to the magpie on the coat of arms.

That's one theory. Another is that there was a food shortage in the
early days of white settlement, and the new settlers had to find new
sources of food.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

On 16/04/24 00:28, Sn!pe wrote:

> Apropos of not much: min første kone er dansk.

What an interesting mixture we have here. I had to look up "kone".

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

On 15/04/24 10:36, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> Once you bring city names into the picture, the endings wander all
> over the shop. Australia has Sydneysider, Melbournite, Crow-eater,
> ...

I forgot to mention that "Novocastrian" is possibly the only Latin-based
name in the whole country. At least, I can't think of another right now.

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Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW