On 11 Jan 2024 at 01:16:19 CET, "dxf" <dxforth@gmail.com> wrote:

> It goes without saying sales to a businessman would make him smile.
> What percentage of the profit made from the sales of your books goes
> back to the original author?

Nothing, nada, 0%. That's why no MPE publications will ever
be available from that source, but are available for free from the
MPE website at
https://www.mpeforth.com/resource-links/books/

Stephen
--
Stephen Pelc, stephen@vfxforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

On 11 Jan 2024 at 01:16:19 CET, "dxf" <dxforth@gmail.com> wrote:

> It goes without saying sales to a businessman would make him smile.
> What percentage of the profit made from the sales of your books goes
> back to the original author?

Nothing, nada, 0%. That's why no MPE publications will ever
be available from that source, but are available for free from the
MPE website at
https://www.mpeforth.com/resource-links/books/

Stephen
--
Stephen Pelc, stephen@vfxforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

Let us stick to the truth please.

We had an agreement to have this book
run as edited, formatted and published by me on amazon.
This lasted for about 3 years .
Then you changed your mind.
Fine for me - your decision, but your conditions I could not agree with.

This all was probably caused by me having to remind you of a couple of months late payments of the consultancy invoices.
It had not been a problem for me at the time and you then paid.
But there we are.

The value generated by this book was so low,
that it was easier for me to unpublish/stop the book and stop availability than to find, calculate what to transfer every time to MPE.
It takes quite some time to get this out of the summary report with worldwide places with all different currencies..
It would cost me more in consultant time than it was worth.

I gave you all of the numbers at the time.

I had sent you the complete original amazon sales report by month at the time
relating to the eBook and Print book.
eBooks were about 80%, Print books about 20%.

And to put it into perspective:
From the original amazon numbers you can easily calculate,
that the whole discussion was about MPE to receive about £48 per year.

Much of the time I had to invest to get the book ready and publish it, is still unpaid,
as this would normally hopefully be covered by future sales until there is any penny in my pocket.

I still do own a few of those books
- so might sell them at high price on ebay in the future ...
Or just bin them.

Just following the link in your post,
I can see, that you sell the book I had formatted, edited and published on your website now.
https://www.mpeforth.com/resource-links/books/
I wonder how this is possible, as the link leads to amazon
Program Forth, Stephen Pelc
about GBP 10 from Amazon 10.00 GBP 11.62 EUR 12.72 USD
Programming Forth: Version July 2016 Paperback – 2 Aug. 2018
by Stephen Pelc (Author), Juergen Pintaske (Editor)

How come this reminds me of a large block of flats
where all the residents have their private arguments
in public in the stairwell ???

On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 11:03:22 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On 11 Jan 2024 at 01:16:19 CET, "dxf" <dxf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It goes without saying sales to a businessman would make him smile.
> > What percentage of the profit made from the sales of your books goes
> > back to the original author?
> Nothing, nada, 0%. That's why no MPE publications will ever
> be available from that source, but are available for free from the
> MPE website at
> https://www.mpeforth.com/resource-links/books/
>
> Stephen
> --
> Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
> MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
> 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
> tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
> http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

According to the way you post here,
I am really confused - as probably many others
it seems that

neither mpeforth.com
nor vfxforth.com
are the same company

And are part of the Forth Sales Product group anymore really or seriously.
This only leaves forth.com

No issue for me or many others I assume.

But how can both companies at the same address exist at the same time?

At least either MPE or VFX should make it clear to the community.

On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpitaske@gmail.com> wrote:

> it seems that
>
> neither mpeforth.com
> nor vfxforth.com
> are the same company

The company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.

mpeforth.com
and
vfxforth.com
are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.

Stephen

--
Stephen Pelc, stephen@vfxforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > it seems that
> >
> > neither mpeforth.com
> > nor vfxforth.com
> > are the same company
> The company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
>
> mpeforth.com
> and
> vfxforth.com
> are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
> Stephen
>

Thank you very much for the update.

It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
- at least how I understand it:

https://wodni.at/
18 months ago it was stated there:
Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd..
Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.

And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.

On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 12:47:08 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> > On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > it seems that
> > >
> > > neither mpeforth.com
> > > nor vfxforth.com
> > > are the same company
> > The company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
> >
> > mpeforth.com
> > and
> > vfxforth.com
> > are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
> > Stephen
> >
> Thank you very much for the update.
>
> It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
> where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
> - at least how I understand it:
>
> https://wodni.at/
> 18 months ago it was stated there:
> Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
> Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
> In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd...
> Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
> Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
> Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.
>
> And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
> Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
> We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
> In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
> You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
> Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
> deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.

Is there any statement from either party
who are supposedly members of this new company
started 18 months ago?

On 29 Jan 2024 at 07:53:10 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpitaske@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 12:47:08 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
>>> On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> it seems that
>>>>
>>>> neither mpeforth.com
>>>> nor vfxforth.com
>>>> are the same company
>>> The company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
>>>
>>> mpeforth.com
>>> and
>>> vfxforth.com
>>> are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
>>> Stephen
>>>
>> Thank you very much for the update.
>>
>> It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
>> where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
>> - at least how I understand it:
>>
>> https://wodni.at/
>> 18 months ago it was stated there:
>> Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
>> Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
>> In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd..
>> Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
>> Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
>> Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.
>>
>> And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
>> Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
>> We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
>> In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
>> You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
>> Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
>> deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.
>
> Is there any statement from either party
> who are supposedly members of this new company
> started 18 months ago?

a) Statement about what?
b) No.

In considering any potential response to a), please consider b).

Stephen

--
Stephen Pelc, stephen@vfxforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

On Monday 29 January 2024 at 10:43:42 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2024 at 07:53:10 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 12:47:08 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> >>> On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> it seems that
> >>>>
> >>>> neither mpeforth.com
> >>>> nor vfxforth.com
> >>>> are the same company
> >>> The company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
> >>>
> >>> mpeforth.com
> >>> and
> >>> vfxforth.com
> >>> are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
> >>> Stephen
> >>>
> >> Thank you very much for the update.
> >>
> >> It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
> >> where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
> >> - at least how I understand it:
> >>
> >> https://wodni.at/
> >> 18 months ago it was stated there:
> >> Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
> >> Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
> >> In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd..
> >> Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
> >> Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
> >> Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.
> >>
> >> And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
> >> Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
> >> We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
> >> In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
> >> You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
> >> Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
> >> deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.
> >
> > Is there any statement from either party
> > who are supposedly members of this new company
> > started 18 months ago?
> a) Statement about what?
> b) No.
>
> In considering any potential response to a), please consider b).
> Stephen
>
> --
> Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
> MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
> 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
> tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
> http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

I c)
Is there any statement from either party
who are supposedly members of this new company
started 18 months ago?

On 29 Jan 2024 at 12:54:54 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpitaske@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday 29 January 2024 at 10:43:42 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
>> On 29 Jan 2024 at 07:53:10 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 12:47:08 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
>>>>> On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> it seems that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> neither mpeforth.com
>>>>>> nor vfxforth.com
>>>>>> are the same company
>>>>> The company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
>>>>>
>>>>> mpeforth.com
>>>>> and
>>>>> vfxforth.com
>>>>> are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for the update.
>>>>
>>>> It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
>>>> where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
>>>> - at least how I understand it:
>>>>
>>>> https://wodni.at/
>>>> 18 months ago it was stated there:
>>>> Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
>>>> Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
>>>> In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd..
>>>> Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
>>>> Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
>>>> Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.
>>>>
>>>> And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
>>>> Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
>>>> We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
>>>> In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
>>>> You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
>>>> Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
>>>> deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.
>>>
>>> Is there any statement from either party
>>> who are supposedly members of this new company
>>> started 18 months ago?
>> a) Statement about what?
>> b) No.
>>
>> In considering any potential response to a), please consider b).
>> Stephen
>>
>> --
>> Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
>> MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
>> 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
>> tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
>> http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
>
>
> I c)
> Is there any statement from either party
> who are supposedly members of this new company
> started 18 months ago?

See a)
See b)

Stephen
--
Stephen Pelc, stephen@vfxforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

On Monday 29 January 2024 at 16:18:21 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2024 at 12:54:54 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday 29 January 2024 at 10:43:42 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> >> On 29 Jan 2024 at 07:53:10 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 12:47:08 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> >>>>> On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> it seems that
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> neither mpeforth.com
> >>>>>> nor vfxforth.com
> >>>>>> are the same company
> >>>>> The company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> mpeforth.com
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> vfxforth.com
> >>>>> are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
> >>>>> Stephen
> >>>>>
> >>>> Thank you very much for the update.
> >>>>
> >>>> It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
> >>>> where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
> >>>> - at least how I understand it:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://wodni.at/
> >>>> 18 months ago it was stated there:
> >>>> Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
> >>>> Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
> >>>> In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd..
> >>>> Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
> >>>> Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
> >>>> Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.
> >>>>
> >>>> And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
> >>>> Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
> >>>> We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
> >>>> In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
> >>>> You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
> >>>> Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
> >>>> deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.
> >>>
> >>> Is there any statement from either party
> >>> who are supposedly members of this new company
> >>> started 18 months ago?
> >> a) Statement about what?
> >> b) No.
> >>
> >> In considering any potential response to a), please consider b).
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
> >> MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
> >> 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
> >> tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
> >> http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
> >
> >
> > I c)
> > Is there any statement from either party
> > who are supposedly members of this new company
> > started 18 months ago?
> See a)
> See b)
> Stephen
> --
> Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
> MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
> 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
> tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
> http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

As neither you nor your new partner has commented in any way about this new company,

You are basically stating by default, that the deal is off , and
MPE stays as is.

Thank you for confirming this.

On 1 Feb 2024 at 12:17:37 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpitaske@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are basically stating by default, that the deal is off , and
> MPE stays as is.
>
> Thank you for confirming this.

Total bullshit.

Stephen
--
Stephen Pelc, stephen@vfxforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 12:24:22 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On 1 Feb 2024 at 12:17:37 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You are basically stating by default, that the deal is off , and
> > MPE stays as is.
> >
> > Thank you for confirming this.
> Total bullshit.
> Stephen
> --
> Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
> MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
> 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
> tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
> http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

The bullshit is actually coming from Stephen Pelc,
who seems to be ill,
as he cannot even write full sentences anymore.
Very sad.

I am really confused - as probably many others here probably are - ,
that no clear answer from the Managing Director of MPE is possible.

It would be rather simple to tell the Forth Community,
if MPE is interested:
Regarding the change to a GMBH as announced by Mr. Wodni
d) it has been done but not announced
e) it has been delayed
f) it has been cancelled

On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 14:24:44 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 12:24:22 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> > On 1 Feb 2024 at 12:17:37 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > You are basically stating by default, that the deal is off , and
> > > MPE stays as is.
> > >
> > > Thank you for confirming this.
> > Total bullshit.
> > Stephen
> > --
> > Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
> > MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
> > 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
> > tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
> > http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
> The bullshit is actually coming from Stephen Pelc,
> who seems to be ill,
> as he cannot even write full sentences anymore.
> Very sad.
>
> I am really confused - as probably many others here probably are - ,
> that no clear answer from the Managing Director of MPE is possible.
>
> It would be rather simple to tell the Forth Community,
> if MPE is interested:
> Regarding the change to a GMBH as announced by Mr. Wodni
> d) it has been done but not announced
> e) it has been delayed
> f) it has been cancelled

And I have to thank MPE
who basically dragged me into the Forth community,
then hired me as a consultant for many years.

I was on the MPE website as the Sales and Marketing Manager for many years.
Helped to update the old MPE website to look a bit better,
actually generated some magazine coverage via the PRs that are still on the MPE website,

the Forth support requirements triggered my idea to start the Forth Bookshelf.
This is how this first post here actually started, until it changed unfortunately.

And the Forth Bookshelf I did will be there for the people, to help the ones
who want to get started.
And I can be proud, that some of them are the most recent published Forth documentation
https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 19:09:45 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 14:24:44 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 12:24:22 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> > > On 1 Feb 2024 at 12:17:37 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > You are basically stating by default, that the deal is off , and
> > > > MPE stays as is.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for confirming this.
> > > Total bullshit.
> > > Stephen
> > > --
> > > Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
> > > MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
> > > 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
> > > tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
> > > http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
> > The bullshit is actually coming from Stephen Pelc,
> > who seems to be ill,
> > as he cannot even write full sentences anymore.
> > Very sad.
> >
> > I am really confused - as probably many others here probably are - ,
> > that no clear answer from the Managing Director of MPE is possible.
> >
> > It would be rather simple to tell the Forth Community,
> > if MPE is interested:
> > Regarding the change to a GMBH as announced by Mr. Wodni
> > d) it has been done but not announced
> > e) it has been delayed
> > f) it has been cancelled
> And I have to thank MPE
> who basically dragged me into the Forth community,
> then hired me as a consultant for many years.
>
> I was on the MPE website as the Sales and Marketing Manager for many years.
> Helped to update the old MPE website to look a bit better,
> actually generated some magazine coverage via the PRs that are still on the MPE website,
>
> the Forth support requirements triggered my idea to start the Forth Bookshelf.
> This is how this first post here actually started, until it changed unfortunately.
>
> And the Forth Bookshelf I did will be there for the people, to help the ones
> who want to get started.
> And I can be proud, that some of them are the most recent published Forth documentation
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

And the MicroBox project Paul Bennet and I initiated, got the funding for, and supported there at the IET event as well.
Definitely the largest Multiprocessor display at the end of the video.
About 250 systems running MPE VFX
Unfortunatelty the IET cut us out both of the video, just my hands with the MicroBox are visible
https://tv.theiet.org/?videoid=7386

Many companies donated money or components for this project.
About 300 systems were built there, all running MPE Forth on the MSP430G2553.
A real fun project.
The proof I was there, see the man with the yellow t-shirt
https://www.eurocircuits.com/blog/eurocircuits-supports-iet-activity-at-peakcamp-201/

Here some of the companies who supported this project.
https://alt.forth-ev.de/filemgmt_data/files/IET_Letter-asking_for%20_support_05_16_epic.pdf
Later on Dyson joined as well and donated a price.

On 2/02/2024 8:43 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 19:09:45 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>> On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 14:24:44 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>>> On Thursday 1 February 2024 at 12:24:22 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
>>>> On 1 Feb 2024 at 12:17:37 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You are basically stating by default, that the deal is off , and
>>>>> MPE stays as is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for confirming this.
>>>> Total bullshit.
>>>> Stephen
>>>> --
>>>> Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
>>>> MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
>>>> 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
>>>> tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
>>>> http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
>>> The bullshit is actually coming from Stephen Pelc,
>>> who seems to be ill,
>>> as he cannot even write full sentences anymore.
>>> Very sad.
>>>
>>> I am really confused - as probably many others here probably are - ,
>>> that no clear answer from the Managing Director of MPE is possible.
>>>
>>> It would be rather simple to tell the Forth Community,
>>> if MPE is interested:
>>> Regarding the change to a GMBH as announced by Mr. Wodni
>>> d) it has been done but not announced
>>> e) it has been delayed
>>> f) it has been cancelled
>> And I have to thank MPE
>> who basically dragged me into the Forth community,
>> then hired me as a consultant for many years.
>>
>> I was on the MPE website as the Sales and Marketing Manager for many years.
>> Helped to update the old MPE website to look a bit better,
>> actually generated some magazine coverage via the PRs that are still on the MPE website,
>>
>> the Forth support requirements triggered my idea to start the Forth Bookshelf.
>> This is how this first post here actually started, until it changed unfortunately.
>>
>> And the Forth Bookshelf I did will be there for the people, to help the ones
>> who want to get started.
>> And I can be proud, that some of them are the most recent published Forth documentation
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true
>
> And the MicroBox project Paul Bennet and I initiated, got the funding for, and supported there at the IET event as well.
> Definitely the largest Multiprocessor display at the end of the video.
> About 250 systems running MPE VFX
> Unfortunatelty the IET cut us out both of the video, just my hands with the MicroBox are visible
> https://tv.theiet.org/?videoid=7386
>
> Many companies donated money or components for this project.
> About 300 systems were built there, all running MPE Forth on the MSP430G2553.
> A real fun project.
> The proof I was there, see the man with the yellow t-shirt
> https://www.eurocircuits.com/blog/eurocircuits-supports-iet-activity-at-peakcamp-201/
>
> Here some of the companies who supported this project.
> https://alt.forth-ev.de/filemgmt_data/files/IET_Letter-asking_for%20_support_05_16_epic.pdf
> Later on Dyson joined as well and donated a price.

Not everything in life is transactional. That way only leads to disappointment.

> Not everything in life is transactional. That way only leads to disappointment.

What is meant by being transactional?
Transactional Relationship | Definition & Characteristics ...
Transactional relationships are built on the expectation for reciprocation. Both individuals are concerned with how they will benefit. Individuals are self-serving, making sure they get as much as they can from the relationship for a set amount of work in return.

I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional.
No disappointment here.
The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here.
I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...

On Saturday 3 February 2024 at 07:48:15 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > Not everything in life is transactional. That way only leads to disappointment.
> What is meant by being transactional?
> Transactional Relationship | Definition & Characteristics ...
> Transactional relationships are built on the expectation for reciprocation. Both individuals are concerned with how they will benefit. Individuals are self-serving, making sure they get as much as they can from the relationship for a set amount of work in return.
>
> I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional.
> No disappointment here.
> The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here.
> I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...

Just to repeat how this post started:

All the Best for 2024 to everybody here.

Just to remind everybody about the Forth Books
we have published over the years
( and there are a few others, not for Forth on the same page ... )
Especially for people who might not have heard about them
https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

On 3/02/2024 6:48 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> ...
> What is meant by being transactional?
> ... Individuals are self-serving, making sure they get as much as they can from the relationship for a set amount of work in return.

Excellent definition. So the individual by its very nature can never be self-less.
Everything is a competition, or as Bertrand Russell put it:

"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim."

Jurgen Pitaske schrieb am Samstag, 3. Februar 2024 um 20:00:28 UTC+1:
> On Saturday 3 February 2024 at 07:48:15 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > Not everything in life is transactional. That way only leads to disappointment.
> > What is meant by being transactional?
> > Transactional Relationship | Definition & Characteristics ...
> > Transactional relationships are built on the expectation for reciprocation. Both individuals are concerned with how they will benefit. Individuals are self-serving, making sure they get as much as they can from the relationship for a set amount of work in return.
> >
> > I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional.
> > No disappointment here.
> > The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here.
> > I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...
> Just to repeat how this post started:
>
> All the Best for 2024 to everybody here.
>
> Just to remind everybody about the Forth Books
> we have published over the years
> ( and there are a few others, not for Forth on the same page ... )
> Especially for people who might not have heard about them
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

Also Werbung für Ihre Bücher ist dieser Thread ganz sicher nicht Herr Pintaske.

Grüße aus Hamburg

On Sunday 4 February 2024 at 13:42:14 UTC, Ingo Mathyl wrote:
> Jurgen Pitaske schrieb am Samstag, 3. Februar 2024 um 20:00:28 UTC+1:
> > On Saturday 3 February 2024 at 07:48:15 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > Not everything in life is transactional. That way only leads to disappointment.
> > > What is meant by being transactional?
> > > Transactional Relationship | Definition & Characteristics ...
> > > Transactional relationships are built on the expectation for reciprocation. Both individuals are concerned with how they will benefit. Individuals are self-serving, making sure they get as much as they can from the relationship for a set amount of work in return.
> > >
> > > I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional..
> > > No disappointment here.
> > > The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here..
> > > I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...
> > Just to repeat how this post started:
> >
> > All the Best for 2024 to everybody here.
> >
> > Just to remind everybody about the Forth Books
> > we have published over the years
> > ( and there are a few others, not for Forth on the same page ... )
> > Especially for people who might not have heard about them
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

> Also Werbung für Ihre Bücher ist dieser Thread ganz sicher nicht Herr Pintaske.
> Grüße aus Hamburg

It seems you are new here.
Over the last 10 years there has been a lot worse here -
in comparison these here now are rather friendly.
And I have continued to generate new books or non-Forth ones.
I just like to do it as I have spare time.

And the information here is not for the ones who laugh about this old stuff anyway
but for the ones that are interested and want to start, and find one here
https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

Actually - the ones who are not interested will not buy one
The ones that are interested might.
New people here have to start somewhere and might find something that suits them.

Promotion / marketing / sales and so on are spit on often here, as Forth programmers know better anyway.
One of the reasons why Forth is loosing traction????
They forget that they do it everyday themselves -
for example making themselves look special looking for a new job,
or even find a new partner ...

On Sunday 4 February 2024 at 18:24:56 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Sunday 4 February 2024 at 13:42:14 UTC, Ingo Mathyl wrote:
> > Jurgen Pitaske schrieb am Samstag, 3. Februar 2024 um 20:00:28 UTC+1:
> > > On Saturday 3 February 2024 at 07:48:15 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > > Not everything in life is transactional. That way only leads to disappointment.
> > > > What is meant by being transactional?
> > > > Transactional Relationship | Definition & Characteristics ...
> > > > Transactional relationships are built on the expectation for reciprocation. Both individuals are concerned with how they will benefit. Individuals are self-serving, making sure they get as much as they can from the relationship for a set amount of work in return.
> > > >
> > > > I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional.
> > > > No disappointment here.
> > > > The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here.
> > > > I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...
> > > Just to repeat how this post started:
> > >
> > > All the Best for 2024 to everybody here.
> > >
> > > Just to remind everybody about the Forth Books
> > > we have published over the years
> > > ( and there are a few others, not for Forth on the same page ... )
> > > Especially for people who might not have heard about them
> > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true
>
> > Also Werbung für Ihre Bücher ist dieser Thread ganz sicher nicht Herr Pintaske.
> > Grüße aus Hamburg
> It seems you are new here.
> Over the last 10 years there has been a lot worse here -
> in comparison these here now are rather friendly.
> And I have continued to generate new books or non-Forth ones.
> I just like to do it as I have spare time.
>
> And the information here is not for the ones who laugh about this old stuff anyway
> but for the ones that are interested and want to start, and find one here
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Juergen-Pintaske/author/B00N8HVEZM?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true
>
> Actually - the ones who are not interested will not buy one
> The ones that are interested might.
> New people here have to start somewhere and might find something that suits them.
>
> Promotion / marketing / sales and so on are spit on often here, as Forth programmers know better anyway.
> One of the reasons why Forth is loosing traction????
> They forget that they do it everyday themselves -
> for example making themselves look special looking for a new job,
> or even find a new partner ...

And it does not matter how good or how bad the books of my bookshelf are.
Let the market judge.
Just had a look again how many Forth books are part of the top 100 at
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/3970/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_5_last#5

Top 100 Best Sellers in Compiler Design
6 of the Forth books I published
0 other Forth books
How should this be interpreted????????

On Sat, 03 Feb 2024 08:48:14 Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> [...]
>
> I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional.
> No disappointment here.
> The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here.
> I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...

Promise?

--
M.O.

On Monday 5 February 2024 at 01:13:35 UTC, Marc Olschok wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2024 08:48:14 Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional.
> > No disappointment here.
> > The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here.
> > I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...
> Promise?
>
> --
> M.O.

Thank you very much for this useless and completely meaningless post.

It demonsterates the level of intelligence of some people posting here now.

Or is to the average intelligence level of the people who work at
Fernuniversitaet in Hagen ? Then it would be ok.
https://www.fernuni-hagen.de/MATHEMATIK/DMO/mitarbeiter/olschok.html