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* OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"Cursitor Doom
+* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
|`* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"Ian Jackson
| +* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
| |`* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"Andrew
| | +* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
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| | || `* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"Tim Streater
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| | ||    `* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"Cursitor Doom
| | ||     `- Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
| | |`* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"JNugent
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| | | |`* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
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| | | |  `- Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
| | | `* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"Cursitor Doom
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| | |  || +* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
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| | |  || | +* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
| | |  || | |`* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"Jeff Gaines
| | |  || | | +* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
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| | |  || | | | | | | |  || |`* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
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| | |  || | | | | | | |  || | `* Re: OT: "Britain's Crying Out for Change!"The Natural Philosopher
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From: cd@notformail.com (Cursitor Doom)
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 by: Cursitor Doom - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 09:43 UTC

Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
*meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 09:46 UTC

On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
> *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
> the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
> elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
> an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.

Reform will not do anything of the sort, but if it simply stops funding
all this woke nonsense and lets it wither, that would be enough

--
Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns.

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 by: Steve - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:28 UTC

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 09:43:25 +0000
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
> *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
> the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
> elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
> an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.

ROFL!

Well said, Comrade Doom.

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:42 UTC

On 18/02/2024 in message <grj3tiths5jv4kgdvq9cert8h6unr9r5op@4ax.com>
Cursitor Doom wrote:

>Only Reform will re-introduce
>Capital punishment

No civilised country uses capital punishment nowadays, it's barbaric.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th birthday.
(Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)

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 by: Chris - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 11:51 UTC

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 10:28:30 +0000, Steve wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 09:43:25 +0000 Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
>> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
>> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a *meaningful*
>> change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true conservative agenda,
>> unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked the country over the
>> last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce Capital punishment and
>> public floggings and make the streets safe for elderly patriots to walk
>> again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow an elderly patriot to
>> come home after too many years away. Thank you.
>
> ROFL!
>
> Well said, Comrade Doom.

+1

I really like that sort of parody account.

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 by: Fredxx - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:01 UTC

On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:

<snip>

> Only Reform will re-introduce
> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
> elderly patriots to walk again.

Some good reasons why we shouldn't vote Reform. They were doing well up
to that point.

The irony is that violent crime has come down since capital punishment
was banned. Only a Daily Wail reader would think otherwise.

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 by: Dan Green - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:05 UTC

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:01:39 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid>
wrote:

>On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Only Reform will re-introduce
>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>> elderly patriots to walk again.
>
>Some good reasons why we shouldn't vote Reform. They were doing well up
>to that point.
>
>The irony is that violent crime has come down since capital punishment
>was banned. Only a Daily Wail reader would think otherwise.

Meanwhile, knife killings have gone through the roof....

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 by: Ian Jackson - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:27 UTC

In message <uqsjmb$vvgo$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
>On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
>> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
>> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
>> *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
>> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
>> the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>> elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
>> an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.
>
>Reform will not do anything of the sort, but if it simply stops funding
>all this woke nonsense and lets it wither, that would be enough
>
AIUI, Reform consists of essentially the same team who strongly pushed
for Brexit. Having achieved one once-in-a-lifetime crowning success,
only a fool would not put them in a position to obtain a second.
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

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 by: alan_m - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:55 UTC

On 18/02/2024 12:05, Dan Green wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:01:39 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Only Reform will re-introduce
>>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>>> elderly patriots to walk again.
>>
>> Some good reasons why we shouldn't vote Reform. They were doing well up
>> to that point.
>>
>> The irony is that violent crime has come down since capital punishment
>> was banned. Only a Daily Wail reader would think otherwise.
>
> Meanwhile, knife killings have gone through the roof....

and Police crime clear up rates have fallen through the floor.

--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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 by: SteveW - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 15:11 UTC

On 18/02/2024 10:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 in message <grj3tiths5jv4kgdvq9cert8h6unr9r5op@4ax.com>
> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>
>> Only Reform will re-introduce
>> Capital punishment
>
> No civilised country uses capital punishment nowadays, it's barbaric.

I have no objections to capital punishment on those grounds, but am
firmly against purely for the simple reason that mistakes have been and
continue to be made. Innocent people *are* found guilty. At least with a
life sentence, they can appeal and may have some of their life left to live.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 15:12 UTC

On 18/02/2024 13:27, Ian Jackson wrote:
> In message <uqsjmb$vvgo$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
>> On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
>>> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
>>> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
>>> *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
>>> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
>>> the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
>>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>>> elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
>>> an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.
>>
>> Reform will not do anything of the sort, but if it simply stops
>> funding all this woke nonsense and lets it wither, that would be enough
>>
> AIUI, Reform consists of essentially the same team who strongly pushed
> for Brexit. Having achieved one once-in-a-lifetime crowning success,
> only a fool would not put them in a position to obtain a second.

Correct, which is why they need to be in government. They are not trying
to reverse brexit or break the country in half to justify rejoining

--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
....than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

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 by: maus - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 15:21 UTC

On 2024-02-18, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
> *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
> the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
> elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
> an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.

Great stuff, 400 more pages if that. I presume you work for the daily
mail or times.

--
greymausg@mail.com
Is There not even one Influencer here to torment?

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 16:57 UTC

On 18/02/2024 in message <uqt6na$17n8e$1@dont-email.me> SteveW wrote:

>On 18/02/2024 10:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>On 18/02/2024 in message <grj3tiths5jv4kgdvq9cert8h6unr9r5op@4ax.com>
>>Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>
>>>Only Reform will re-introduce
>>>Capital punishment
>>
>>No civilised country uses capital punishment nowadays, it's barbaric.
>
>I have no objections to capital punishment on those grounds, but am firmly
>against purely for the simple reason that mistakes have been and continue
>to be made. Innocent people are found guilty. At least with a life
>sentence, they can appeal and may have some of their life left to live.

Indeed, people know that and is is why no civilised country uses capital
punishment nowadays.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The first five days after the weekend are the hardest.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 17:55 UTC

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 23:01:39 +1100, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

> On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Only Reform will re-introduce
>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>> elderly patriots to walk again.
>
> Some good reasons why we shouldn't vote Reform. They were doing well up
> to that point.
>
> The irony is that violent crime has come down since capital punishment
> was banned.

But not because capital punishment was abolished.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 17:58 UTC

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 00:55:21 +1100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 18/02/2024 12:05, Dan Green wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:01:39 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Only Reform will re-introduce
>>>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>>>> elderly patriots to walk again.
>>>
>>> Some good reasons why we shouldn't vote Reform. They were doing well up
>>> to that point.
>>>
>>> The irony is that violent crime has come down since capital punishment
>>> was banned. Only a Daily Wail reader would think otherwise.
>> Meanwhile, knife killings have gone through the roof....
>
> and Police crime clear up rates have fallen through the floor.

Not with knife killings.

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:33 UTC

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:27:24 +0000, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <uqsjmb$vvgo$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
><tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
>>On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
>>> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
>>> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
>>> *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
>>> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
>>> the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
>>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>>> elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
>>> an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.
>>
>>Reform will not do anything of the sort, but if it simply stops funding
>>all this woke nonsense and lets it wither, that would be enough
>>
>AIUI, Reform consists of essentially the same team who strongly pushed
>for Brexit. Having achieved one once-in-a-lifetime crowning success,
>only a fool would not put them in a position to obtain a second.

Brexit was a good move. It's been wrecked, probably on purpose, by the
worst government in living memory who has gone out of its way to be
utterly hopeless on every single metric. It's hard to believe any
government can be as bad as the current shower, but the evidence is
irrefutable.

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:35 UTC

On 18 Feb 2024 16:57:32 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

>On 18/02/2024 in message <uqt6na$17n8e$1@dont-email.me> SteveW wrote:
>
>>On 18/02/2024 10:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>On 18/02/2024 in message <grj3tiths5jv4kgdvq9cert8h6unr9r5op@4ax.com>
>>>Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>
>>>>Only Reform will re-introduce
>>>>Capital punishment
>>>
>>>No civilised country uses capital punishment nowadays, it's barbaric.
>>
>>I have no objections to capital punishment on those grounds, but am firmly
>>against purely for the simple reason that mistakes have been and continue
>>to be made. Innocent people are found guilty. At least with a life
>>sentence, they can appeal and may have some of their life left to live.
>
>Indeed, people know that and is is why no civilised country uses capital
>punishment nowadays.

Just change the standard of proof. "Beyond reasonable doubt" ain't
good enough in a Capital case. You need "Beyond *all* doubt" to be
certain.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:58 UTC

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 05:35:21 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

> On 18 Feb 2024 16:57:32 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 18/02/2024 in message <uqt6na$17n8e$1@dont-email.me> SteveW wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/02/2024 10:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2024 in message <grj3tiths5jv4kgdvq9cert8h6unr9r5op@4ax.com>
>>>> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Only Reform will re-introduce
>>>>> Capital punishment
>>>>
>>>> No civilised country uses capital punishment nowadays, it's barbaric.
>>>
>>> I have no objections to capital punishment on those grounds, but am
>>> firmly
>>> against purely for the simple reason that mistakes have been and
>>> continue
>>> to be made. Innocent people are found guilty. At least with a life
>>> sentence, they can appeal and may have some of their life left to live.
>>
>> Indeed, people know that and is is why no civilised country uses capital
>> punishment nowadays.
>
> Just change the standard of proof. "Beyond reasonable doubt" ain't
> good enough in a Capital case. You need "Beyond *all* doubt" to be
> certain.

It is never going to be possible to have proof beyond
all doubt, even you have video of the killing or DNA
evidence. That evidence can always be faked.

I still believe in capital punishment for the worst murder anyway.

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 by: Steve - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:41 UTC

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:33:18 +0000
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:27:24 +0000, Ian Jackson
> <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In message <uqsjmb$vvgo$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
> ><tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
> >>On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >>> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in
> >>> the 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one
> >>> bought it back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to
> >>> get a *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
> >>> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've
> >>> wrecked the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will
> >>> re-introduce Capital punishment and public floggings and make the
> >>> streets safe for elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote
> >>> Reform at the GE and allow an elderly patriot to come home after
> >>> too many years away. Thank you.
> >>
> >>Reform will not do anything of the sort, but if it simply stops
> >>funding all this woke nonsense and lets it wither, that would be
> >>enough
> >>
> >AIUI, Reform consists of essentially the same team who strongly
> >pushed for Brexit. Having achieved one once-in-a-lifetime crowning
> >success, only a fool would not put them in a position to obtain a
> >second.
>
> Brexit was a good move. It's been wrecked, probably on purpose, by the
> worst government in living memory who has gone out of its way to be
> utterly hopeless on every single metric. It's hard to believe any
> government can be as bad as the current shower, but the evidence is
> irrefutable.

Brexit caused the current idiot shower to be in power. Boris sacked
anyone who opposed brexit, and all that was left was the morons.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 20:22 UTC

On 18-Feb-24 13:55, alan_m wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 12:05, Dan Green wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:01:39 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Only Reform will re-introduce
>>>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>>>> elderly patriots to walk again.
>>>
>>> Some good reasons why we shouldn't vote Reform. They were doing well up
>>> to that point.
>>>
>>> The irony is that violent crime has come down since capital punishment
>>> was banned. Only a Daily Wail reader would think otherwise.
>>
>> Meanwhile, knife killings have gone through the roof....
>
> and Police crime clear up rates have fallen through the floor.
>
We must build better floors and ceilings. This shoddy construction is
unacceptable.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 20:26 UTC

On 18-Feb-24 13:27, Ian Jackson wrote:
> In message <uqsjmb$vvgo$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
>> On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in the
>>> 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one bought it
>>> back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to get a
>>> *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
>>> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've wrecked
>>> the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will re-introduce
>>> Capital punishment and public floggings and make the streets safe for
>>> elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote Reform at the GE and allow
>>> an elderly patriot to come home after too many years away. Thank you.
>>
>> Reform will not do anything of the sort, but if it simply stops
>> funding all this woke nonsense and lets it wither, that would be enough
>>
> AIUI, Reform consists of essentially the same team who strongly pushed
> for Brexit. Having achieved one once-in-a-lifetime crowning success,
> only a fool would not put them in a position to obtain a second.

But for the inconvenient existence of the "Monster Raving Loony Party",
Reform could claim their true title of "The Swivel-Eyed Loon Party".

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 18 Feb 2024 20:48 UTC

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 06:41:32 +1100, Steve <steve@steve.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:33:18 +0000
> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:27:24 +0000, Ian Jackson
>> <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >In message <uqsjmb$vvgo$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
>> ><tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
>> >>On 18/02/2024 09:43, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >>> Said Keir Starmer. Remember who uttered that same mantra back in
>> >>> the 80s? None other than ginger half-wit, Neil Kinnock. No one
>> >>> bought it back then and they won't buy it now. The only way to
>> >>> get a *meaningful* change is to vote Reform UK, which has a true
>> >>> conservative agenda, unlike the fake "Conservatives" who've
>> >>> wrecked the country over the last 30 years. Only Reform will
>> >>> re-introduce Capital punishment and public floggings and make the
>> >>> streets safe for elderly patriots to walk again. Please vote
>> >>> Reform at the GE and allow an elderly patriot to come home after
>> >>> too many years away. Thank you.
>> >>
>> >>Reform will not do anything of the sort, but if it simply stops
>> >>funding all this woke nonsense and lets it wither, that would be
>> >>enough
>> >>
>> >AIUI, Reform consists of essentially the same team who strongly
>> >pushed for Brexit. Having achieved one once-in-a-lifetime crowning
>> >success, only a fool would not put them in a position to obtain a
>> >second.
>>
>> Brexit was a good move. It's been wrecked, probably on purpose, by the
>> worst government in living memory who has gone out of its way to be
>> utterly hopeless on every single metric. It's hard to believe any
>> government can be as bad as the current shower, but the evidence is
>> irrefutable.

> Brexit caused the current idiot shower to be in power.

That's a lie.

> Boris sacked anyone who opposed brexit,

That's a lie.

> and all that was left was the morons.

They sacked Boris and so you claim is a lie.

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