Statistics don't lie:

https://niggermania.club/tom/newstuff/london%20nigger%20crimes.jpg

On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
> Statistics don't lie:
>

As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

--
Colin Bignell

On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:39:05 +0100, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

>On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>> Statistics don't lie:
>>
>
>As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

But nigger statistics never lie.

And while we're at that...

"In recent years the public discourses on Polish migration in the UK have rapidly turned hostile"... WHAAA!

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369183X.2018.1451308

SIMPLE SOLUTION!

London --------------------- LO286 ----------------------> Warsaw

LOLOK!

Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:39:05 +0100, Colin Bignell
> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>
>>
>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>
> But nigger statistics never lie.
>
I would wonder what their statistics are in blowing their loads
inside your teen daughter's womb, but for you to have a teen daughter,
you would need to blow your load inside a girl's or woman's womb.

What are the chances of that happening?

Michael

Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
> Statistics don't lie:
>
> https://niggermania.club/tom/newstuff/london%20nigger%20crimes.jpg
>
Still pissed off that they refuse to stick it in you?

Michael

On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>> Statistics don't lie:
>>
>
> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

Only if you don't like the numbers.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html

The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.

On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>
>>
>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>
> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>
> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector of
the population is over-represented compared to the general population.
For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such as poverty,
inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see how that sector
is represented among that part of the population affected by those.
Statistics that don't include those can and probably do lie.

--
Colin Bignell

I would have thought that a web address like that would make it clear where
the bias is. The reason for most crimes is in the end poverty, after all.
Something is failing the black population.
Brian

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"Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg" <void@invalid.not> wrote in message
news:8vkobi19o1lc3th5lls1jp7vhvp7oqfv2a@4ax.com...
> Statistics don't lie:
>
> https://niggermania.club/tom/newstuff/london%20nigger%20crimes.jpg
>

Has somebody stopped taking their meds, perhaps?

On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>
>>>
>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>
>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>
>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>
>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector of
> the population is over-represented compared to the general population.
> For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such as poverty,
> inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see how that sector
> is represented among that part of the population affected by those.
> Statistics that don't include those can and probably do lie.

Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the likes
of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to culture?

If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show the
correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't, simply
because it's an established fact that is criminality is cultural.

On 23/07/2023 10:52, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I would have thought that a web address like that would make it clear where
> the bias is. The reason for most crimes is in the end poverty, after all.
> Something is failing the black population.
> Brian

Quite, except the figures have been published elsewhere in the
mainstream media.

On 23/07/2023 in message <5PCdnXAXS_nGayH5nZ2dnZeNn_Vj4p2d@giganews.com>
Colin Bignell wrote:

>>The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector of
>the population is over-represented compared to the general population. For
>that you need to include the drivers of crime, such as poverty, inequality
>and high unemployment, in the figures and see how that sector is
>represented among that part of the population affected by those.
>Statistics that don't include those can and probably do lie.

Bollocks. You need to look at why a sector of the population feels it is
acceptable to steal.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>
>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>
>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>
>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector
>> of the population is over-represented compared to the general
>> population. For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such as
>> poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see how
>> that sector is represented among that part of the population affected
>> by those. Statistics that don't include those can and probably do lie.
>
> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the likes
> of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to culture?
>
> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show the
> correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't, simply
> because it's an established fact that is criminality is cultural.
>

That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high
unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture is
only proven to affect the types of crime they commit. East Europeans and
Chinese are the most likely to be involved in people trafficking. White
males are by far the most likely to be involved in sexual grooming, but
Asian males are more likely to do so as a group activity. The prevalence
of black males being convicted of street crime is thought to be dues to
racial bias in the police (blacks are more than three times as likely to
be stopped and arrested than whites, although the conviction rate for
whites is higher), more of them living in areas of poverty and
under-achievement of black pupils in schools, compared to whites in the
same schools.

I have several distant cousins in Australia, due to seven people in my
family tree having been transported there. I have a direct ancestor who
died in Newgate Prison and several who served time at some point. Does
that make me culturally prone to criminality, or is it simply that most
of them were very poor?

--
Colin Bignell

On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 17:42:45 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
<MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

>Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:39:05 +0100, Colin Bignell
>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>
>>>
>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>
>> But nigger statistics never lie.
>>
> I would wonder what their statistics are in blowing their loads
>inside your teen daughter's womb, but for you to have a teen daughter,
>you would need to blow your load inside a girl's or woman's womb.

That you will NEVER have, gook. If you're REALLY lucky, some gook
subwoman will allow you to squirt your mini-load into her miniature
anus and excrete another gook subhuman 9 months later.

> What are the chances of that happening?

What are the chances of YOU ever squirting your mini-load into
Chrissie Morton's fat nigger anus?

#gookejershito

On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 17:43:35 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
<MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

>Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>> Statistics don't lie:
>>
>> https://niggermania.club/tom/newstuff/london%20nigger%20crimes.jpg
>>
> Still pissed off that they refuse to stick it in you?

Has ape Chrissie Morton stuck it in YOU yet, gook?

#gookejershito

On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 10:52:58 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

>I would have thought that a web address like that would make it clear where
>the bias is. The reason for most crimes is in the end poverty, after all.
>Something is failing the black population.
> Brian

The black population is failing the black population, with its
preferences for loud music, street crime, and chemically induced
recreation.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 14:08:57 +0100, Colin Bignell wrote:

> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
>> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to
>>>>> Disraeli:
>>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>>
>>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-
city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>>
>>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector
>>> of the population is over-represented compared to the general
>>> population. For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such as
>>> poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see how
>>> that sector is represented among that part of the population affected
>>> by those. Statistics that don't include those can and probably do lie.
>>
>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the
>> likes of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to
>> culture?
>>
>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show the
>> correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't, simply
>> because it's an established fact that is criminality is cultural.
>>
>>
> That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high
> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture is
> only proven to affect the types of crime they commit. East Europeans and
> Chinese are the most likely to be involved in people trafficking. White
> males are by far the most likely to be involved in sexual grooming, but
> Asian males are more likely to do so as a group activity. The prevalence
> of black males being convicted of street crime is thought to be dues to
> racial bias in the police (blacks are more than three times as likely to
> be stopped and arrested than whites, although the conviction rate for
> whites is higher), more of them living in areas of poverty and
> under-achievement of black pupils in schools, compared to whites in the
> same schools.
>
> I have several distant cousins in Australia, due to seven people in my
> family tree having been transported there. I have a direct ancestor who
> died in Newgate Prison and several who served time at some point. Does
> that make me culturally prone to criminality, or is it simply that most
> of them were very poor?

There is a stronger gang culture amongst no-hopers, with no resident
fathers at home.

On 23/07/2023 15:52, jon wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 14:08:57 +0100, Colin Bignell wrote:
>
>> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to
>>>>>> Disraeli:
>>>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-
> city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>>>
>>>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>>>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector
>>>> of the population is over-represented compared to the general
>>>> population. For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such as
>>>> poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see how
>>>> that sector is represented among that part of the population affected
>>>> by those. Statistics that don't include those can and probably do lie.
>>>
>>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the
>>> likes of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to
>>> culture?
>>>
>>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
>>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show the
>>> correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't, simply
>>> because it's an established fact that is criminality is cultural.
>>>
>>>
>> That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high
>> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture is
>> only proven to affect the types of crime they commit. East Europeans and
>> Chinese are the most likely to be involved in people trafficking. White
>> males are by far the most likely to be involved in sexual grooming, but
>> Asian males are more likely to do so as a group activity. The prevalence
>> of black males being convicted of street crime is thought to be dues to
>> racial bias in the police (blacks are more than three times as likely to
>> be stopped and arrested than whites, although the conviction rate for
>> whites is higher), more of them living in areas of poverty and
>> under-achievement of black pupils in schools, compared to whites in the
>> same schools.
>>
>> I have several distant cousins in Australia, due to seven people in my
>> family tree having been transported there. I have a direct ancestor who
>> died in Newgate Prison and several who served time at some point. Does
>> that make me culturally prone to criminality, or is it simply that most
>> of them were very poor?
>
> There is a stronger gang culture amongst no-hopers, with no resident
> fathers at home.

That is entirely possible, whatever their ethnicity.

--
Colin Bignell

Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 17:43:35 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
> <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
>> Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>
>>> https://niggermania.club/tom/newstuff/london%20nigger%20crimes.jpg
>>>
>> Still pissed off that they refuse to stick it in you?
>
> Has ape Chrissie Morton stuck it in YOU yet, gook?
>
> #gookejershito
>
Of course not, for I am a MAN!

Michael

On 23 Jul 2023 at 14:08:57 BST, Colin Bignell wrote:

> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
>> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>>
>>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>>
>>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector
>>> of the population is over-represented compared to the general
>>> population. For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such as
>>> poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see how
>>> that sector is represented among that part of the population affected
>>> by those. Statistics that don't include those can and probably do lie.
>>
>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the likes
>> of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to culture?
>>
>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show the
>> correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't, simply
>> because it's an established fact that is criminality is cultural.
>>
>
> That is far too simplistic a view.

Absolutely. Plus, stir in institutional characteristics of law enforcement.

> Poverty, inequality and high
> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture is
> only proven to affect the types of crime they commit. East Europeans and
> Chinese are the most likely to be involved in people trafficking. White
> males are by far the most likely to be involved in sexual grooming, but
> Asian males are more likely to do so as a group activity. The prevalence
> of black males being convicted of street crime is thought to be dues to
> racial bias in the police (blacks are more than three times as likely to
> be stopped and arrested than whites, although the conviction rate for
> whites is higher), more of them living in areas of poverty and
> under-achievement of black pupils in schools, compared to whites in the
> same schools.
>
> I have several distant cousins in Australia, due to seven people in my
> family tree having been transported there. I have a direct ancestor who
> died in Newgate Prison and several who served time at some point. Does
> that make me culturally prone to criminality, or is it simply that most
> of them were very poor?

Coincidence and cause, A quick look at stats, or worse graphical
representation of stats, rarely gives an accurate picture.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 23/07/2023 14:08, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
>> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to Disraeli:
>>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>>
>>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>>
>>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector
>>> of the population is over-represented compared to the general
>>> population. For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such
>>> as poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see
>>> how that sector is represented among that part of the population
>>> affected by those. Statistics that don't include those can and
>>> probably do lie.
>>
>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the
>> likes of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to
>> culture?
>>
>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show
>> the correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't,
>> simply because it's an established fact that is criminality is cultural.
>>
>
> That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high
> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture is
> only proven to affect the types of crime they commit.

Is that an admission that it is predominantly ethnicity, aka culture,
that determines the likelihood of criminality?

On 24/07/2023 08:13, Fredxx wrote:
> On 23/07/2023 14:08, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to
>>>>>> Disraeli:
>>>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>>>
>>>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>>>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector
>>>> of the population is over-represented compared to the general
>>>> population. For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such
>>>> as poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see
>>>> how that sector is represented among that part of the population
>>>> affected by those. Statistics that don't include those can and
>>>> probably do lie.
>>>
>>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the
>>> likes of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to
>>> culture?
>>>
>>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
>>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show
>>> the correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't,
>>> simply because it's an established fact that is criminality is cultural.
>>>
>>
>> That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high
>> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture is
>> only proven to affect the types of crime they commit.
>
> Is that an admission that it is predominantly ethnicity, aka culture,
> that determines the likelihood of criminality?
>

It is, in fact, the exact opposite.

--
Colin Bignell

On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 16:23:16 +0100, Colin Bignell wrote:

> On 23/07/2023 15:52, jon wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 14:08:57 +0100, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
>>>> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to
>>>>>>> Disraeli:
>>>>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-
>> city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>>>>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular sector
>>>>> of the population is over-represented compared to the general
>>>>> population. For that you need to include the drivers of crime, such
>>>>> as poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the figures and see
>>>>> how that sector is represented among that part of the population
>>>>> affected by those. Statistics that don't include those can and
>>>>> probably do lie.
>>>>
>>>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the
>>>> likes of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to
>>>> culture?
>>>>
>>>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
>>>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show
>>>> the correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't,
>>>> simply because it's an established fact that is criminality is
>>>> cultural.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high
>>> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture is
>>> only proven to affect the types of crime they commit. East Europeans
>>> and Chinese are the most likely to be involved in people trafficking.
>>> White males are by far the most likely to be involved in sexual
>>> grooming, but Asian males are more likely to do so as a group
>>> activity. The prevalence of black males being convicted of street
>>> crime is thought to be dues to racial bias in the police (blacks are
>>> more than three times as likely to be stopped and arrested than
>>> whites, although the conviction rate for whites is higher), more of
>>> them living in areas of poverty and under-achievement of black pupils
>>> in schools, compared to whites in the same schools.
>>>
>>> I have several distant cousins in Australia, due to seven people in my
>>> family tree having been transported there. I have a direct ancestor
>>> who died in Newgate Prison and several who served time at some point.
>>> Does that make me culturally prone to criminality, or is it simply
>>> that most of them were very poor?
>>
>> There is a stronger gang culture amongst no-hopers, with no resident
>> fathers at home.
>
> That is entirely possible, whatever their ethnicity.

That seems to be the dominant business model for negroes.

On 24/07/2023 08:36, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 24/07/2023 08:13, Fredxx wrote:
>> On 23/07/2023 14:08, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2023 12:09, Fredxx wrote:
>>>> On 23/07/2023 10:46, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>> On 23/07/2023 07:34, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:39, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/07/2023 23:13, Carolyn Jean Swikard Berg wrote:
>>>>>>>> Statistics don't lie:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Mark Twain wrote, attributing it, possibly mistakenly, to
>>>>>>> Disraeli:
>>>>>>> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only if you don't like the numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The article is 13 years old, but I doubt much has changed.
>>>>> However, that does not look into the reasons why a particular
>>>>> sector of the population is over-represented compared to the
>>>>> general population. For that you need to include the drivers of
>>>>> crime, such as poverty, inequality and high unemployment, in the
>>>>> figures and see how that sector is represented among that part of
>>>>> the population affected by those. Statistics that don't include
>>>>> those can and probably do lie.
>>>>
>>>> Given that other ethnic minorities do not inhabit prisons from the
>>>> likes of gun crime disproportionately, why not simply put it down to
>>>> culture?
>>>>
>>>> If it was purely down to say whether a criminal received free school
>>>> dinners as a child there would be many studies commissioned to show
>>>> the correlation of the two without an ethnic bias. But there aren't,
>>>> simply because it's an established fact that is criminality is
>>>> cultural.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is far too simplistic a view. Poverty, inequality and high
>>> unemployment are proven factors in why people commit crime. Culture
>>> is only proven to affect the types of crime they commit.
>>
>> Is that an admission that it is predominantly ethnicity, aka culture,
>> that determines the likelihood of criminality?
>>
>
> It is, in fact, the exact opposite.

So your saying the quantity of crime is independent on race, but agree
for example, white collar crime is predominantly carried out by
Caucasian and gun crime predominantly by blacks?