Paul wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>>
>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>
>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>
>> Robert
>
> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>
> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>
> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>
> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>
> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>
> Paul
>
>

I tried to subscribe to Solani again on the 780 Win7 but
found I had a older version of Seamonkey which offered
a download for a newer stable version. So I downloaded
it (hex8) and then installed it but still same thing nothing.

https://postimg.cc/k6WJqmhd

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>>
>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>
>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>
>> Robert
>
> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>
> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>
> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>
> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>
> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>
> Paul
>
>

The 8500 doesn't 'see' the optical drive for some weird reason during
boot. When I do my mrimgs I have to hit F12 to select the optical drive.
and then hit any key to activate it.

I believe we tried to fix it once before but it didn't take for some
reason.

The 780 however 'sees' the optical drive during boot for doing mrimgs.

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>>
>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>
>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>
>> Robert
>
> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>
> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>
> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>
> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>
> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>
> Paul
>
>

I checked the BIOS and boot order, then the hard disk drives,
then the CD/DVD ROM Drives. Then the 4th boot device.
How do I change the boot order ?

https://postimg.cc/5XszhZX0

https://postimg.cc/DJXbb0BJ

https://postimg.cc/T5jLCS8T

https://postimg.cc/YvD4nYPL

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On 2/5/2024 11:58 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>>
>>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>>
>> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
>> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>>
>> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
>> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>>
>> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
>> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
>> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>>
>> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>>
>
> I checked the BIOS and boot order, then the hard disk drives,
> then the CD/DVD ROM Drives. Then the 4th boot device.
> How do I change the boot order ?
>
>
> https://postimg.cc/5XszhZX0
>
> https://postimg.cc/DJXbb0BJ
>
> https://postimg.cc/T5jLCS8T
>
> https://postimg.cc/YvD4nYPL
>
>
> Thanks,
> Robert

Normally, you would click on the third row (say, the Optical drive
you want to promote to the top), and on the right hand pane where
it provides help, it tells you what keys to use for elevation. It
might be the plus key and the minus key, to make it go up and down.
The arrow keys would allow you to focus on a different row, then use
the + and - keys to move the item around.

It should usually be some sort of combination of keys like that.

For my Retail UEFI BIOS here, I've never tried to move the
boot icons around with a mouse :-) I've got enough broken stuff
without starting into that. I just prefer to use the popup boot
key if I have a special thing that needs doing. On this machine,
F11 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the BIOS. On
the Asus machine, F8 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the
BIOS. Another machine, I think F2 gets me into the BIOS.

*******

OK, from some manual

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/417162/Dell-Xps-8500.html?page=127#manual

Changing Boot Sequence for Future Boots

1) Enter system setup. See "Entering System Setup" on page 119. [That's your "BIOS key"]

2) Use the arrow keys to highlight the Boot menu option
and press <Enter> to access the menu.

NOTE:

3) Press the up-arrow and down-arrow keys to move through the list of devices
[this navigates to the row you want to act on]

4) Press plus (+) or minus (–) to change the boot priority of the device
[push device up the screen].

Paul

On 2/5/2024 9:44 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>>
>>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>>
>> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
>> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>>
>> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
>> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>>
>> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
>> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
>> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>>
>> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>>
>
> I tried to subscribe to Solani again on the 780 Win7 but
> found I had a  older version of Seamonkey which offered
> a download for a newer stable version. So I  downloaded
> it (hex8) and then installed it but still same thing nothing.
>
> https://postimg.cc/k6WJqmhd
>
> Robert

When I connect to Solani on port 119, I'm getting
a username and password prompt, whether I select
"Always Request Authentication" or not.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/cJjHFSfg/solani-account-prompt.gif

Is that what you see when looking at the newsgroup subscription ?

Paul

Paul wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 11:58 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>>>
>>>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>
>>> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>>>
>>> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
>>> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>>>
>>> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
>>> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>>>
>>> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
>>> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
>>> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>>>
>>> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I checked the BIOS and boot order, then the hard disk drives,
>> then the CD/DVD ROM Drives. Then the 4th boot device.
>> How do I change the boot order ?
>>
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/5XszhZX0
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/DJXbb0BJ
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/T5jLCS8T
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/YvD4nYPL
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>
> Normally, you would click on the third row (say, the Optical drive
> you want to promote to the top), and on the right hand pane where
> it provides help, it tells you what keys to use for elevation. It
> might be the plus key and the minus key, to make it go up and down.
> The arrow keys would allow you to focus on a different row, then use
> the + and - keys to move the item around.
>
> It should usually be some sort of combination of keys like that.
>
> For my Retail UEFI BIOS here, I've never tried to move the
> boot icons around with a mouse :-) I've got enough broken stuff
> without starting into that. I just prefer to use the popup boot
> key if I have a special thing that needs doing. On this machine,
> F11 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the BIOS. On
> the Asus machine, F8 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the
> BIOS. Another machine, I think F2 gets me into the BIOS.
>
> *******
>
> OK, from some manual
>
> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/417162/Dell-Xps-8500.html?page=127#manual
>
> Changing Boot Sequence for Future Boots
>
> 1) Enter system setup. See "Entering System Setup" on page 119. [That's your "BIOS key"]
>
> 2) Use the arrow keys to highlight the Boot menu option
> and press <Enter> to access the menu.
>
> NOTE:
>
> 3) Press the up-arrow and down-arrow keys to move through the list of devices
> [this navigates to the row you want to act on]
>
> 4) Press plus (+) or minus (–) to change the boot priority of the device
> [push device up the screen].
>
> Paul
>
>

I hit F2 to access my BIOS on the 8500 Win7,..
I'll try and change it and let you know how it
goes.

Yes, that's what I see when trying to subscribe
to Solani.

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 11:58 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>>>
>>>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>
>>> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>>>
>>> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
>>> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>>>
>>> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
>>> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>>>
>>> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
>>> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
>>> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>>>
>>> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I checked the BIOS and boot order, then the hard disk drives,
>> then the CD/DVD ROM Drives. Then the 4th boot device.
>> How do I change the boot order ?
>>
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/5XszhZX0
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/DJXbb0BJ
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/T5jLCS8T
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/YvD4nYPL
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>
> Normally, you would click on the third row (say, the Optical drive
> you want to promote to the top), and on the right hand pane where
> it provides help, it tells you what keys to use for elevation. It
> might be the plus key and the minus key, to make it go up and down.
> The arrow keys would allow you to focus on a different row, then use
> the + and - keys to move the item around.
>
> It should usually be some sort of combination of keys like that.
>
> For my Retail UEFI BIOS here, I've never tried to move the
> boot icons around with a mouse :-) I've got enough broken stuff
> without starting into that. I just prefer to use the popup boot
> key if I have a special thing that needs doing. On this machine,
> F11 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the BIOS. On
> the Asus machine, F8 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the
> BIOS. Another machine, I think F2 gets me into the BIOS.
>
> *******
>
> OK, from some manual
>
> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/417162/Dell-Xps-8500.html?page=127#manual
>
> Changing Boot Sequence for Future Boots
>
> 1) Enter system setup. See "Entering System Setup" on page 119. [That's your "BIOS key"]
>
> 2) Use the arrow keys to highlight the Boot menu option
> and press <Enter> to access the menu.
>
> NOTE:
>
> 3) Press the up-arrow and down-arrow keys to move through the list of devices
> [this navigates to the row you want to act on]
>
> 4) Press plus (+) or minus (–) to change the boot priority of the device
> [push device up the screen].
>
> Paul
>
>

Success !

https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90

However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
I see the results.

I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 11:58 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> On 2/5/2024 1:19 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> After I erase the hd and if I'm not changing anything in BIOS when I boot and the tray is open with the 22H2 DVD how do I initialize it to start Win10 installation? Because the 8500 doesn't recognize the optical drive like the 780 does and I usually have to hit F12 several times to change the boot order and select the CD.
>>>>
>>>> We also have to get Solani working on the 780 Win7 before I do anything on the 8500. I'll try again tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>
>>> Isn't the optical drive in the boot order ?
>>>
>>> The SATA port for the optical drive should be "ON".
>>> As is the SATA port for the hard drive.
>>>
>>> The optical drive should be before the HDD, in the boot order.
>>> And it should be picked up automatically, if a disc is in the tray.
>>>
>>> Some discs, they say "press a key to boot from DVD..." ,
>>> so they require a key press at that point. Will a
>>> key press from your Microsoft keyboard work ? Dunno.
>>>
>>> I realize the Dell is a piece of work, when it comes to booting.
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I checked the BIOS and boot order, then the hard disk drives,
>> then the CD/DVD ROM Drives. Then the 4th boot device.
>> How do I change the boot order ?
>>
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/5XszhZX0
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/DJXbb0BJ
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/T5jLCS8T
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/YvD4nYPL
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>
> Normally, you would click on the third row (say, the Optical drive
> you want to promote to the top), and on the right hand pane where
> it provides help, it tells you what keys to use for elevation. It
> might be the plus key and the minus key, to make it go up and down.
> The arrow keys would allow you to focus on a different row, then use
> the + and - keys to move the item around.
>
> It should usually be some sort of combination of keys like that.
>
> For my Retail UEFI BIOS here, I've never tried to move the
> boot icons around with a mouse :-) I've got enough broken stuff
> without starting into that. I just prefer to use the popup boot
> key if I have a special thing that needs doing. On this machine,
> F11 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the BIOS. On
> the Asus machine, F8 is popup boot and <Delete> key gets me into the
> BIOS. Another machine, I think F2 gets me into the BIOS.
>
> *******
>
> OK, from some manual
>
> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/417162/Dell-Xps-8500.html?page=127#manual
>
> Changing Boot Sequence for Future Boots
>
> 1) Enter system setup. See "Entering System Setup" on page 119. [That's your "BIOS key"]
>
> 2) Use the arrow keys to highlight the Boot menu option
> and press <Enter> to access the menu.
>
> NOTE:
>
> 3) Press the up-arrow and down-arrow keys to move through the list of devices
> [this navigates to the row you want to act on]
>
> 4) Press plus (+) or minus (–) to change the boot priority of the device
> [push device up the screen].
>
> Paul
>
>

I'm on the 780 using Solani

I tried subscribing to Solani on the 780 Win7 again
and this time it worked.

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On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:

> Success !
>
> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>
> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
> I see the results.
>
> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>
> Robert

Good, that ought to help a bit.

Paul

Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

Now that we have the optical drive working and Solani
finally let me subscribe I think I'm ready to give it a try
and see if I can erase the Win10 hd and then install Win10
with the 22h2 DVD.

I want to re-read the instructions again and make sure I'm
not forgetting anything. Then will give it a try and let you
know how it goes.

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

I started to run the mrimg then I got this:

https://postimg.cc/XGH6Hkrn

https://postimg.cc/zbWTp0tg

https://postimg.cc/w3Qwpj2s

https://postimg.cc/d70Y8f05

Ok now what? Should I run chkdsk from
the command prompt?

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

I’m on the 780; I started the chkdsk C: /r

https://postimg.cc/nXJnRdqm

https://postimg.cc/K1vH8B2V

It’s weird its X: not C: after I did the cd/

At present; Stage is at 56% and Total is 8%

Also SeaMonkey prompted me for my
Username and password.

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

I ran the chkdsk C: /r then ran the mrimg.
The 3rd picture shows a Recycle bin folder
and System Volume Information folder. I did
not create those. I usually only see the
8500 Mrimgs folder. The fourth picture shows
the mrimg I created at the top.

https://postimg.cc/5Q8Z8S8L

https://postimg.cc/4HR04Hjd

https://postimg.cc/zb7dN2wd

https://postimg.cc/7G5CPf0p

Tomorrow I'll erase the hd and then install
Win10. I'll let you know how it goes.

Robert
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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

I think I'm going to take a day or so
to let my back rest before tackle erasing
and installing Win 10 on the 8500.

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

I started the procedure to erase the hd but it doesn’t
appear to be doing anything? It’s been 30 minutes
now and I don’t see any files or folders being erased.
Is it supposed to run like this?

https://postimg.cc/gnHXrMNf

In passing, Solani again prompted me for my User
name and password even after I clicked the box to
remember it. This is getting tiring. So I used Paganini
instead.

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>
Success !

https://postimg.cc/Mv4XdcX6

https://postimg.cc/YL0qxkHL

https://postimg.cc/67hWJT6G

I completed erasing the hd and exited from the command prompt.
I disconnected the Ethernet connection and removed the Macrium
Rescue CD and put in the 22H2 DVD and left the tray open as instructed.
then restarted the 8500.

The tray closed automatically and started Win 10 installation, It
restarted (11) times and I clicked that I don’t have a Product Key
number because you said not to enter the product key but will it
ask for it later?

Each time it had me enter the same information as before and it seemed
like was in a loop. It installs Windows then restarts then starts the
same thing all over.

It finally moved forward and I was able to install Win 10 but it didn’t
ask for any email or phone number or show any anything in the lower left
corner. Once I selected Win10 Pro it just went from one screen to another.

I switched hd's back to Win 7 Pro for the time being.

I'll start adding things and change the settings so FF is my browser,
turn off notifications and install SeaMonkey, Word/Excel and Dell
Imaging. Then my A/V suite,bookmarks and finally My Documents.

Also next time I do mrimgs, delete the Rogue User mrimg.

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

Here's pics of the install:

https://postimg.cc/3dX0yY3r

https://postimg.cc/5H0XkzLj

https://postimg.cc/hfvPnnh3

https://postimg.cc/3kD8yZXX

https://postimg.cc/D4ZF7Qfb

https://postimg.cc/68RK6pKz

https://postimg.cc/5YPdKH59

https://postimg.cc/qN8fVDc5

https://postimg.cc/9w4SxLF1

https://postimg.cc/FfDBNMYD

this was taken after a restart to compare the changes
in the primary partition.

https://postimg.cc/jWF48tw0

https://postimg.cc/mty3vQzS

https://postimg.cc/5HT8BgTf

https://postimg.cc/Thrnbr9X

https://postimg.cc/Wd4ZxxP2

https://postimg.cc/9DN921Wy

https://postimg.cc/dkGZ8YG9

https://postimg.cc/fSK3rf2t

https://postimg.cc/yWzv26ps

https://postimg.cc/Czc7ZGhx

https://postimg.cc/zHJwvB4h

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

This is a test on the 8500 Win10

Robert

Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

This is a test on the 8500 Win 10 User Account.

I’ve downloaded all my A/V suite, and installed
Word, Excel, Dell Imaging. I still have to import
my bookmarks and copy/paste My Documents.

I looked and I don’t seem to have a link to download
and install Macrium. Could you please provide one?

It looks like were pretty much done unless you want
to try to fix the bad hd or we can clone other hd’s?

Thoughts/suggestions?
Many Thanks,
Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
>> Success !
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>
>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>> I see the results.
>>
>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>
>> Robert
>
> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>
> Paul
>
>

Here's the User Account on the 8500 Win 10:

https://postimg.cc/yDFdRMzk

https://postimg.cc/TLHYGGnH

https://postimg.cc/RJ6CZ8RC

Robert

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On 2/8/2024 3:33 PM, RobnCA wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>
>>> Success !
>>>
>>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>>
>>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>>> I see the results.
>>>
>>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>>
>
>
>
> I started to run the mrimg then I got this:
>
> https://postimg.cc/XGH6Hkrn
>
> https://postimg.cc/zbWTp0tg
>
> https://postimg.cc/w3Qwpj2s
>
> https://postimg.cc/d70Y8f05
>
> Ok now what? Should I run chkdsk from
> the command prompt?
>
> Thoughts/suggestions?
> Robert

So it's asking you to do a bad block scan, which
means the $MFT must have had a CRC error.

Paul

On 2/9/2024 6:24 PM, RobnCA wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>
>>> Success !
>>>
>>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>>
>>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>>> I see the results.
>>>
>>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>>
>
> I’m on the 780; I started the chkdsk C: /r
>
> https://postimg.cc/nXJnRdqm
>
> https://postimg.cc/K1vH8B2V
>
> It’s weird its X: not C: after I did the cd/
>
> At present; Stage is at 56% and Total is 8%
>
>
> Also SeaMonkey prompted me for my
> Username and password.
>
>
> Robert

It's a bad block scan and it is proceeding slowly.

The drive may not be healthy.

The SMART table (HDTune health), may show the number
of reallocated sectors.

Paul

Paul

On 2/9/2024 6:24 PM, RobnCA wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On 2/7/2024 10:42 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>
>>> Success !
>>>
>>> https://postimg.cc/7GwHPk90
>>>
>>> However, there was a certain trick to it,. I used the + and -
>>> signs to move it but I didn't see it move and looked like it
>>> was doing nothing. Only when I closed the application could
>>> I see the results.
>>>
>>> I tested it with a Macrium Rescue CD and it worked!
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> Good, that ought to help a bit.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>>
>
> I’m on the 780; I started the chkdsk C: /r
>
> https://postimg.cc/nXJnRdqm
>
> https://postimg.cc/K1vH8B2V
>
> It’s weird its X: not C: after I did the cd/
>
> At present; Stage is at 56% and Total is 8%
>
>
> Also SeaMonkey prompted me for my
> Username and password.
>
>
> Robert

https://forum.macrium.com/14308/MFT-corrupt-Error-code-6-Please-run-chkdsk-C-r

"Error code 6 means that a file system cluster used by a file is marked as available
in the volume bitmap. We've never seen this not corrected by running chkdsk, so this
is very strange. If you can't correct this and are confident that your file system
has no error then you can turn off file system checking."

But the version of CHKDSK seems to have an impact on how well CHKDSK cleans up.

You would be surprised how many versions exist. (The installed OS has a version
of course, but the installer DVD also has a version, and the command line
parameters can be different.)

Paul

On 2/10/2024 12:38 AM, Robert in CA wrote:

> I ran the chkdsk C: /r then ran the mrimg.
> The 3rd picture shows a Recycle bin folder
> and System Volume Information folder. I did
> not create those. I usually only see the
> 8500 Mrimgs folder. The fourth picture shows
> the mrimg I created at the top.
>
> https://postimg.cc/5Q8Z8S8L
>
> https://postimg.cc/4HR04Hjd
>
> https://postimg.cc/zb7dN2wd
>
> https://postimg.cc/7G5CPf0p
>
> Tomorrow I'll erase the hd and then install
> Win10. I'll let you know how it goes.
>
>
>
> Robert

These are normal folders. They are created when an ordinary
boot OS sees a new drive. System Volume Information can
hold shadow copies. The recycle bin is for holding
files to be deleted, temporarily. System Volume Information
is "access denied", you are not normally allowed in there
for a look.

Paul

On 2/10/2024 2:25 PM, Robert in CA wrote:

>
> I started the procedure to erase the hd but it doesn’t
> appear to be doing anything? It’s been 30 minutes
> now and I don’t see any files or folders being erased.
> Is it supposed to run like this?
>
> https://postimg.cc/gnHXrMNf
>
> In passing, Solani again prompted me for my User
> name and password even after I clicked the box to
> remember it. This is getting tiring. So I used Paganini
> instead.
>
> Robert

You have not checked the health status of this drive yet.
I like HDTune Health tab that displays SMART.

An alternative, is to run a read transfer rate benchmark
and look for downward spikes indicating "bad spots" on
the surface of the disk.

Paul