Thus spake Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team>
> INN2 come with gpg1, to be sure to remove gpg1 and install gpg2, with
> library libgcrypt version 1.10.1, in other case some new signature
> you're unable to certify (on my system ubuntu 22.04, the old library
> don't support a lot of new signature).

PMFJI, but INN does not include any version of GnuPG:

"If not already done, install GnuPG, or an equivalent implementation
of the OpenPGP standard, to be able to verify the signature of NoCeM
notices. It will provide the gpg and gpgv programs. If GnuPG was
already installed when INN was configured, then the paths to these
programs were taken into account. Otherwise, you have to set the
$gpg and $gpgv variables in pathlib/perl/INN/Config.pm to the paths
to these programs."

https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/perl-nocem.html

I assume that the Debian/Ubuntu packages for INN have a dependency on gpg1,
but it's perfectly OK to have both gpg1 and gpg2 installed, as long
as you make sure pathlib/perl/INN/Config.pm contains the correct
paths.

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On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 10:44:00 -0700
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 16:52:03 -0000 (UTC)
> Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> wrote:
> > Usenet could get together and provide a registration service whereby
> > Google Groups users can register their account for whitelisting.
> > Those who don't are effectively shadow banned by default, confined
> > to the Google Groups echo chamber.
>
> That would probably be more trouble than it's worth. At least in non-tech
> groups, many (most?) GG users don't even know they are using usenet.

A simpler idea for whitelisting googlegroups posters would be for newsservers
to have an email address where people can send an email , possibly in a
certain format , which would essentially say that if the From: header field
matches such and such pattern then the person posting through googlegroups is
not a spammer (he may still be a troll or brain damaged or obsessive
compulsive poster of bullshit but not a spammer). It wouldn't even have to be
the person using the specific From: address submitting the information.

In theory spammers could abuse this but I don't think it's likely they would
even notice that such a measure is in place. I don't get the impression that
the spammers monitor the groups they spam , they just use some automatic
scripts.

For example I read comp.lang.c regularly and there are only 3-4 legitimate
posters who post through googlegroups so I could easily provide the
information for those.

An online submission form instead of an email address is a variation of the
same idea.

> I've
> had threats to one of my sites (web usenet interface) that if I don't stop
> scraping google groups for content, they would contact Google (lol)

Amusing. How did you respond ? As a matter of fact , if they can get some
googlegroups related contact information , that might also be useful with
regard to the spam but I doubt that any such contact information exists.

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Am 06.10.2023 schrieb Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com>:

> A simpler idea for whitelisting googlegroups posters would be for
> newsservers to have an email address where people can send an email,
> possibly in a certain format , which would essentially say that if the
> From: header field matches such and such pattern then the person
> posting through googlegroups is not a spammer

The first problem is that those users need to know about this - if not,
nobody will read them and cannot tell them about it.
The infrastructure also needs to be operated.
Much better: Tell them to use real NNTP news servers.

> In theory spammers could abuse this but I don't think it's likely
> they would even notice that such a measure is in place. I don't get
> the impression that the spammers monitor the groups they spam , they
> just use some automatic scripts.

I also don't think they will care if there messages are on other news
servers.

> For example I read comp.lang.c regularly and there are only 3-4
> legitimate posters who post through googlegroups so I could easily
> provide the information for those.

Then contact them directly if possible and suggest using a public news
server like E-S or solani.

* Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> A simpler idea for whitelisting googlegroups posters would be for newsservers
> to have an email address where people can send an email , possibly in a
> certain format , which would essentially say that if the From: header field
> matches such and such pattern then the person posting through googlegroups is
> not a spammer (he may still be a troll or brain damaged or obsessive
> compulsive poster of bullshit but not a spammer). It wouldn't even have to be
> the person using the specific From: address submitting the information.

Why would you use a whitelist? Wouldn't a blacklist with all confirmed spammers
be more reliable and the spammers would register their mail addresses addresses
by simply spamming (i.e. posting an article that is recognized as spam by
appropriate filters?

> In theory spammers could abuse this but I don't think it's likely they would
> even notice that such a measure is in place. I don't get the impression that
> the spammers monitor the groups they spam , they just use some automatic
> scripts.

There are funny things going on in the spammed groups.

Someone posted a killfile entry for tin in comp.lang.c

<ufjr39$ak71$1@dont-email.me>

and some kind soul translated the posting to Thai and posted it to the same
group:

<18a75249-032f-4f06-9c5f-0b5f6025e3b7n@googlegroups.com>

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On 05/10/2023 18:44, Retro Guy wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 16:52:03 -0000 (UTC)
> Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-10-05, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>>> Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> writes:
>>>
>>>> The Doctor:
>>>>
>>>>> WEll now more calls at East-asian spmatrollers are
>>>>> flooding comp.lang.c to no end!
>>>>
>>>> Is it a coincidence that it stopped here in CLC several
>>>> hours after I logged in to Google Gropus and reported some
>>>> fourty Thai articles as SPAM?
>>>
>>> Probably. Ray (who runs Eternal September) is aware of the issue and is
>>> continually (or so I imagine) updating his filters.
>>>
>>> I have another feed and, using that alternate view, comp.lang.c has had
>>> 2407 posts in the last day.
>>
>> We need a whitelisting solution, at the federation level.

If a GG user manages to find a technical group that hasn't been flooded
with spam, then they'd wonder why an otherwise active group is
completely ignoring them. I don't think whitelisting would be fair.

>>
>> That is to say, servers like Eternal September should reject all
>> articles from Google Groups, except from users who are whitelisted.
>>
>> Usenet could get together and provide a registration service whereby
>> Google Groups users can register their account for whitelisting.
>> Those who don't are effectively shadow banned by default, confined
>> to the Google Groups echo chamber.
>
> That would probably be more trouble than it's worth. At least in non-tech
> groups, many (most?) GG users don't even know they are using usenet. I've
> had threats to one of my sites (web usenet interface) that if I don't stop
> scraping google groups for content, they would contact Google (lol)
>
> First you would need to explain what is Usenet, before even trying to get
> them to care about their posts showing up anywhere else.
>
> That may not seem like a big deal, but you would be messing up non-tech groups
> for non GG users, as they would no longer see most of their recipes, or discussion
> of boats or whatever, making their favourite groups much less useful for them.

If you google "What is usenet", the top results are basically "It's
better than bittorrent but you'll need to pay for a news-server that
carrys binaries and has a long retention".

I seems most magazine authors don't know what usenet is either.

Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> writes:
>On 05/10/2023 18:44, Retro Guy wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 16:52:03 -0000 (UTC)
>> Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-10-05, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> The Doctor:
>>>>>
>>>>>> WEll now more calls at East-asian spmatrollers are
>>>>>> flooding comp.lang.c to no end!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it a coincidence that it stopped here in CLC several
>>>>> hours after I logged in to Google Gropus and reported some
>>>>> fourty Thai articles as SPAM?
>>>>
>>>> Probably. Ray (who runs Eternal September) is aware of the issue and is
>>>> continually (or so I imagine) updating his filters.
>>>>
>>>> I have another feed and, using that alternate view, comp.lang.c has had
>>>> 2407 posts in the last day.
>>>
>>> We need a whitelisting solution, at the federation level.
>
>If a GG user manages to find a technical group that hasn't been flooded
>with spam, then they'd wonder why an otherwise active group is
>completely ignoring them. I don't think whitelisting would be fair.

It appears that if enough people using the google groups interface
complain about spam in comp.lang.c, they'll fix it. That worked for
comp.arch, it appears.

[FU2]
Le 06/10/2023 à 16:28, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) a écrit :

> It appears that if enough people using the google groups interface
> complain about spam in comp.lang.c, they'll fix it. That worked for
> comp.arch, it appears.

Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E

Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> writes:
>[FU2]
>Le 06/10/2023 à 16:28, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) a écrit :
>
>> It appears that if enough people using the google groups interface
>> complain about spam in comp.lang.c, they'll fix it. That worked for
>> comp.arch, it appears.
>
>Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
>http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E

While it sucks for Mitch, he can always switch to a real usenet
service.

Le 06/10/2023 à 16:51, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) a écrit :

>>> It appears that if enough people using the google groups interface
>>> complain about spam in comp.lang.c, they'll fix it. That worked for
>>> comp.arch, it appears.

>> Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
>>
>> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E

> While it sucks for Mitch, he can always switch to a real usenet
> service.

That's what people told him, but no one saw Mitch ever again.
And the archive was destroyed too. Google doesn't care at all.

Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> writes:
> Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E

No, that was a comment from a user during the Thaidal wave referring to
the s/n ratio having gotten so bad the group had become
useless. Checking... the group is still there.

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.arch

In article <1bwmvzg50w.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>,
Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> writes:
>> Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
>>
>http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E
>
>No, that was a comment from a user during the Thaidal wave referring to
>the s/n ratio having gotten so bad the group had become
>useless. Checking... the group is still there.
>
>https://groups.google.com/g/comp.arch
>

Depeer Google groups now! Enough with the anaccountability!
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In article <pV73L4gDuzjiPYBy0O-DLKer-BU@jntp>,
Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
>Le 06/10/2023 à 16:51, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) a écrit :
>
>>>> It appears that if enough people using the google groups interface
>>>> complain about spam in comp.lang.c, they'll fix it. That worked for
>>>> comp.arch, it appears.
>
>>> Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
>>>
>>>
>http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E
>
>> While it sucks for Mitch, he can always switch to a real usenet
>> service.
>
>That's what people told him, but no one saw Mitch ever again.
>And the archive was destroyed too. Google doesn't care at all.

Google Groups and gmail are prone to spamtrolls!
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Le 06/10/2023 à 17:11, Joe Pfeiffer a écrit :

>> Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
>>
>> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E

> No, that was a comment from a user during the Thaidal wave referring to
> the s/n ratio having gotten so bad the group had become
> useless. Checking... the group is still there.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.arch

Ah yes, I couldn't find it by myself, strange, thanks for the answer.

["Followup-To:" header set to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.]
* The Doctor wrote:

> Depeer Google groups now! Enough with the anaccountability!

Fancy to revive the late Lee Rizor's (a.k.a Blinky the Shark)
Usenet Improvement Project?

http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/index.html

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In article <slrnui0b1v.1ivsg.rayban@raybanana.net>,
Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:
>["Followup-To:" header set to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.]
>* The Doctor wrote:
>
>> Depeer Google groups now! Enough with the anaccountability!
>
>Fancy to revive the late Lee Rizor's (a.k.a Blinky the Shark)
>Usenet Improvement Project?
>
>http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/index.html
>

The word yes comes to mind.

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 13:19:07 -0000 (UTC)
Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:
> * Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>
> > A simpler idea for whitelisting googlegroups posters would be for newsservers
> > to have an email address where people can send an email , possibly in a
> > certain format , which would essentially say that if the From: header field
> > matches such and such pattern then the person posting through googlegroups is
> > not a spammer (he may still be a troll or brain damaged or obsessive
> > compulsive poster of bullshit but not a spammer). It wouldn't even have to be
> > the person using the specific From: address submitting the information.
>
> Why would you use a whitelist? Wouldn't a blacklist with all confirmed spammers
> be more reliable and the spammers would register their mail addresses addresses
> by simply spamming (i.e. posting an article that is recognized as spam by
> appropriate filters?

I was thinking that a whitelist would be faster and simpler. As for filters ,
a human familiar with the group would certainly be more reliable than an
automatic filter.

> > In theory spammers could abuse this but I don't think it's likely they would
> > even notice that such a measure is in place. I don't get the impression that
> > the spammers monitor the groups they spam , they just use some automatic
> > scripts.
>
> There are funny things going on in the spammed groups.
>
> Someone posted a killfile entry for tin in comp.lang.c
>
> <ufjr39$ak71$1@dont-email.me>
>
> and some kind soul translated the posting to Thai and posted it to the same
> group:
>
> <18a75249-032f-4f06-9c5f-0b5f6025e3b7n@googlegroups.com>

I don't read Thai but the googlegroups post is not a translation of
<ufjr39$ak71$1@dont-email.me> .The latter has

group=*
case=0
score=kill
msgid_last=*<*@googlegroups.com>*

doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
> In article <1bwmvzg50w.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>,
> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
>>>
>>http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E
>>
>>No, that was a comment from a user during the Thaidal wave referring to
>>the s/n ratio having gotten so bad the group had become
>>useless. Checking... the group is still there.
>>
>>https://groups.google.com/g/comp.arch
>>
>
> Depeer Google groups now! Enough with the anaccountability!

What exactly woold that do? Would articles posted elsewhere (say, via
eternal-september) no longer appear on the Google Groups web interface?

I'm not pleased with GG as a Usenet interface, but it's still a decent
archive. I wouldn't want to lose that.

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On Fri, 06 Oct 2023 10:22:09 -0700, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
>I'm not pleased with GG as a Usenet interface, but it's still a decent
>archive. I wouldn't want to lose that.
__________________
/ \
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| Diis Manibus |
| 12 February 2001 |
| R.I.P. |
| |
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

but of course Usenet newsgroups were never dependent on any website for what
myriads of long-time subscribers have been doing independently for years and
decades, filtering, cherry-picking, copying, backing-up, and perhaps sharing
their own newsgroup archives (I've often quoted articles from local threads);
whereas quasi-unfiltered, quasi-unabridged archives have been systematically
saturated with superfluous babble, continual spam floods, ad nauseam; so the
proverbial fox really is guarding the henhouse where public access to gubmit
record collections are concerned...that's what google really is, big brother

* Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>> <ufjr39$ak71$1@dont-email.me>
>>
>> and some kind soul translated the posting to Thai and posted it to the same
>> group:
>>
>> <18a75249-032f-4f06-9c5f-0b5f6025e3b7n@googlegroups.com>
>
> I don't read Thai but the googlegroups post is not a translation of
><ufjr39$ak71$1@dont-email.me> .The latter has
>
> group=*
> case=0
> score=kill
> msgid_last=*<*@googlegroups.com>*

The Thai message reads:

ฉันเห็น Kenny McCormack โพสต์ว่าควรทำอย่างไรเกี่ยวกับสแปม
ที่นี่สำหรับ trn นี่คือสิ่งที่ฉันทำเมื่อใช้ tin

คุณสามารถเพิ่ม 4 บรรทัดเหล่านี้ลงในไฟล์ "~/.tin/filter" ฉันพบว่า
นี่เป็นวิธีแก้ปัญหาเดียวที่เหมาะกับฉัน รายการอื่นๆ ที่ฉัน
พบในการค้นหาเว็บล้มเหลว

which Google Translator (how ironic) translates as

"I saw Kenny McCormack post what to do about spam.
Here for trn this is what I do when using tin.

You can add these 4 lines to the file "~/.tin/filter" I found that
This is the only solution that worked for me. The other items I
Found in web search failure"

Not perfect, but you get the meaning.

And at the same time, you have refuted your claim that
human moderators are more reliable ;-)
not to mention availability. And I have ~15.000 spam mails
from Google Groups on my server accumulated over the last
3 days. Care to check them manually?

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 15:16:29 +0100
Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> If a GG user manages to find a technical group that hasn't been
> flooded with spam, then they'd wonder why an otherwise active group
> is completely ignoring them. I don't think whitelisting would be
> fair.

Google groups users are the modern version of the September AOL users.

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 15:16:29 +0100
Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> We need a whitelisting solution, at the federation level.
>
> If a GG user manages to find a technical group that hasn't been
> flooded with spam, then they'd wonder why an otherwise active group
> is completely ignoring them. I don't think whitelisting would be
> fair.

It is not our job to worry about Google's users.

It is Google's job to worry about their users.

The mother hen mentality fixes nothing.

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 17:11:27 -0000 (UTC)
Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was thinking that a whitelist would be faster and simpler. As for filters ,
> a human familiar with the group would certainly be more reliable than an
> automatic filter.

The quantity of spam precludes manual filtering. Thousands upon thousands of
spam messages, where you would need an entire team to handle that by hand.

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In article <87y1gfvf7i.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>,
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
>> In article <1bwmvzg50w.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>,
>> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>>Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> Yes, it worked, Google just deleted the newsgroup :
>>>>
>>>http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cfc5652a3-1c35-4b43-8f8d-1527e4257ac2n%40googlegroups.com%3E
>>>
>>>No, that was a comment from a user during the Thaidal wave referring to
>>>the s/n ratio having gotten so bad the group had become
>>>useless. Checking... the group is still there.
>>>
>>>https://groups.google.com/g/comp.arch
>>>
>>
>> Depeer Google groups now! Enough with the anaccountability!
>
>What exactly woold that do? Would articles posted elsewhere (say, via
>eternal-september) no longer appear on the Google Groups web interface?
>
>I'm not pleased with GG as a Usenet interface, but it's still a decent
>archive. I wouldn't want to lose that.
>

The archive is already lost due to high spamtrollers!

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In article <d78a803bb42cae27c3cad8f3e7b993d4$1@sybershock.com>,
Syber Shock <admin@sybershock.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 15:16:29 +0100
>Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If a GG user manages to find a technical group that hasn't been
>> flooded with spam, then they'd wonder why an otherwise active group
>> is completely ignoring them. I don't think whitelisting would be
>> fair.
>
>Google groups users are the modern version of the September AOL users.
>

Exactly!

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In article <2f5fff571adf1caea9290b4ad916ef8d$1@sybershock.com>,
Syber Shock <admin@sybershock.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 15:16:29 +0100
>Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> We need a whitelisting solution, at the federation level.
>>
>> If a GG user manages to find a technical group that hasn't been
>> flooded with spam, then they'd wonder why an otherwise active group
>> is completely ignoring them. I don't think whitelisting would be
>> fair.
>
>It is not our job to worry about Google's users.
>
>It is Google's job to worry about their users.
>
>The mother hen mentality fixes nothing.
>

But their abusers are making groups unreadable.

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