On 2024-03-24, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> OB Food: Chuck roast. I'll be cooking it low and slow, after sprinkling
> with S&P and browning it to get the maillard reaction. Simmered in beef
> broth with a couple of bay leaves, a few pearl onions, cloves of garlic
> and a cheesecloth bouquet garni with peppercorns and dried herbs.

I might cook farro for lunch.

I have a bag of allegedly fire roasted vegetables in the freezer.
They've been pretty good with whatever I've used them for thus far.
Maybe also some toasted walnuts. Sounds like a pilaf.

https://www.meijer.com/shopping/product/puravida-fire-roasted-primavera-mistura--10-oz/65174150459.html

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 10:53:38 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Anecdotally..... there was a big stink in the region to the west of me. There
>>> is a well known and very conservative member of Parliament and he was in deep
>>> shit for having attended a large gathering at a time when crowds were being
>>> limited, and no one was wearing masks. The region is heavily populated with
>>> Dutch immigrants, well known for their strict religion and conservative
>>> views. People were furious that there were ignoring all the Covid protocols
>>> that we had been told would keep us safe. The regional health unit was
>>> tracing Covid infections by sex, age and location. Curiously,the infection
>>> rates in that community were a fraction of those of the other municipalities
>>> in the Region.
>>
>> Nothing strange. Sweden has the lowest excess mortality of europe proving
>> that restrictions were just nonsense.
>
> "According to data from the OECD (Organization for Economic
> Co-operation and Development), Iceland and Norway have had the lowest
> COVID-1 mortality rates in Europe [2]."
>
> "During the initial wave, Sweden's COVID-19 death rate was higher than
> neighboring countries like Norway"
>
> Source: My artificially intelligent friend.

Not talking corona-mortality, what ever that means, but excess mortality.
Have a look here:

https://www.europaportalen.se/2023/03/sverige-hade-lagsta-overdodligheten-under-coronapandemin-i-eu

Sweden right at the top just before Norway, with a fraction of the
depression, substance abuse that norway had due to the lack of
restrictions! =)

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
>> while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-23 3:13 p.m., D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/23/2024 1:40 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/23/2024 7:00 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We discussed wood burning recently and I found this today
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.thecooldown.com/green-home/wood-burning-campaign-hertfordshire-county-council/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wood fireplaces and stoves may have a beloved place in our culture,
>>>>>>>>>> but they also play an unfortunate role in pollution. In the United
>>>>>>>>>> Kingdom, the BBC reported that they're responsible for 27% of PM2.5
>>>>>>>>>> pollution (meaning fine particle pollution with pieces less than 2.5
>>>>>>>>>> microns across).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a problem because PM2.5 pollution is strongly linked to cancer
>>>>>>>>>> and premature death. Too much smoke — even from a simple wood fire —
>>>>>>>>>> is as bad as smoking cigarettes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tessa Bartholomew-Good, head of campaigns for clean air at Global
>>>>>>>>>> Action Plan, told the BBC: "The uncomfortable truth is lighting fires
>>>>>>>>>> in our homes is the largest source of small particle air pollution in
>>>>>>>>>> the UK, causing serious harm to our lung, heart and brain health. On
>>>>>>>>>> top of this, burning wood produces more carbon dioxide than coal or
>>>>>>>>>> gas."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Global Action Plan" = still another one of the useless dopey "The sky
>>>>>>>>> is FALLING...!!!" climate "scare" groups...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd love to see her in person - I'd tie to her a chair and smoke a
>>>>>>>>> pack of Camel straights RIGHT into the stupid bint's face, lol...!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <laffin'>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can also add the anecdotal evidence that despite cars and fireplaces
>>>>>>>> in our homes the average life span on the planet has been increasing
>>>>>>>> steadily over the last 200 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I usually tell all people who are afraid of particles to move to
>>>>>>>> Alaska, and that particles is the price we pay for the convenience of
>>>>>>>> living in a modern city with modern technology.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll take my fire place and car any day over the tiny amount of
>>>>>>>> particles they might emit. =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, not everyone gets lung cancer and you can live with asthma using
>>>>>>> an inhaler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, let's reshape the earth based on asthmatics with lung cancer and a
>>>>>> deficient immune system and let's see how it will go. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or they can get health care and the rest of us can get on with life
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, just let them die if beyond help.  You have a great plan.
>>>>
>>>> That's not what I said. There are doctors, did you know that? ;) As for the
>>>> planet at large, as I said, despite _particles_ (scary, I know!) we've
>>>> never been healthier and wealthier.
>>>>
>>>>> What about our grandchildren and great grandchildren when the oil runs
>>>>> out? It will at some point.  Does it not make sense to start planning now
>>>>> for alternatives?  How to conserve what is left?
>>>>
>>>> Oh no... peak oil! Have I heard that before? Let me tell you another little
>>>> secret and it is called "the market" and "technological development". Oil
>>>> will not peak over night, and as oil prices increase, alternatives will be
>>>> develop. It is difficult for me to put into words how little I care about
>>>> peak oil and how much I'm not worried about the grand children.
>>>>
>>>> What does worry me though is socialism, that will lead to starvation and
>>>> the killing of 100 of millions and that is why socialism and eco-fascism
>>>> must be stopped!
>>>>
>>> You seem to confuse progressives with socialists. The opposite, of
>>> course, are the regressive right wingers who want to take us back to
>>> the Nineteenth Century.
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry, haven't seen any of those. The only ones I've seen are the ones who
>> want to give us freedom.
>
> What freedoms are you lacking?

Many! Freedom to keep my property, freedom to own a gun, freedom to drink
when and where I please, freedom to move around physically as long as it
is not on someone elses private property, freedom to use any substance I
like etc. Shall I continue?

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
>> while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
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>>
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-23 6:11 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-23, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>> This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable
>>>>> text,
>>>>> while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware
>>>>> tools.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-03-23, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/23/2024 8:52 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/22/2024 5:52 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-22, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/2024 12:09 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> We discussed wood burning recently and I found this today
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.thecooldown.com/green-home/wood-burning-campaign-hertfordshire-county-council/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wood fireplaces and stoves may have a beloved place in our culture,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> they also play an unfortunate role in pollution. In the United
>>>>>>>>>>> Kingdom,
>>>>>>>>>>> the BBC reported that they're responsible for 27% of PM2.5 pollution
>>>>>>>>>>> (meaning fine particle pollution with pieces less than 2.5 microns
>>>>>>>>>>> across).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's a problem because PM2.5 pollution is strongly linked to
>>>>>>>>>>> cancer
>>>>>>>>>>> and premature death. Too much smoke — even from a simple wood fire —
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> as bad as smoking cigarettes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tessa Bartholomew-Good, head of campaigns for clean air at Global
>>>>>>>>>>> Action
>>>>>>>>>>> Plan, told the BBC: "The uncomfortable truth is lighting fires in
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>> homes is the largest source of small particle air pollution in the
>>>>>>>>>>> UK,
>>>>>>>>>>> causing serious harm to our lung, heart and brain health. On top of
>>>>>>>>>>> this, burning wood produces more carbon dioxide than coal or gas."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Yes , and global warming is real . The real reason they want to
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> rid of wood burners is because they can't turn off your heat like
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> can electric .
>>>>>>>>>> (INCOMING!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who is "they" ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would say the electric company. ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think so Jill . If they ain't supplying you they aren't
>>>>>>> making any money . There are other entities that want to control us ...
>>>>>>> and it's a lot easier to control someone who is cold and hungry . Hey
>>>>>>> Man , all ya gotta do is take this little shot and we'll turn the power
>>>>>>> back on and let you go buy groceries . See how easy that was ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If grocery stores ain't supplying you they aren't making any money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What little shot? You're just making shit up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reminds me I'm overdue for a COVID shot, though. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't do it if there's no need for it Cindy, it could kill you. I know and
>>>>> have heard of many who died after the shot.
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake. Billions of doses have been administered and
>>>> relatively few people have died.
>>>>
>>>> I've already had something like four doses. If I didn't die from the
>>>> first one, I'm not likely to die from the fifth one.
>>>
>>> I have had 6. I managed to avoid Covid until last month, but it was
>>> relatively mild.
>>>
>>> I don't know about the vaccine status of the husband of one of my wife's
>>> school mates. He came down with Covid a couple months ago and died it it.
>>
>> Had corona 3 times and I just continued to work through it. A common cold
>> is actually mroe unpleasant. It's mostly in the mind I think.
>
> Your anecdote is not data.

Likewise.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> Easy, because she's a real woman who cars about her husband. My wife
>> cleans and cooks for me and it is a sign of love.
>
> My husband and I clean and cook for each other and it is a sign of love.
>
>> Most women I know who are militant feminists live alone and are generally
>> very bitter.
>
> Not a statistically significant sample. Sample size too small. Sample
> not randomly selected.
>
>

You do not know how many women I know. ;) I used to live in the promised
land of militant feminism sweden, and I leave you with this from the
socialist rag the guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/25/nordic-countries-happy-reputation-masks-sadness-of-young-says-report

And a out of context quote:

"In Nordic countries, they found, 12.3% of the population are struggling
or suffering. That rose to 13.5% of the 18 to 23 year age group. Among
Swedish young women, it is 19.5% – nearly one in five – compared with
13.8% of Swedish young men. The only age group less happy than the young
were the oldest. Among the over-80s, 16% were struggling or suffering,
with physical health problems and loneliness thought to be the biggest
factors".

On 3/24/2024 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> Easy, because she's a real woman who cars about her husband. My wife
>> cleans and cooks for me and it is a sign of love.
>
(piggybacking and reposting a bunch of relevant stuff which 'D' snipped:

"When I went to get my first Covid shot at the hospital annex, the
vaccine was new so people were supposed to wait about 20 minutes after
the vaccine before leaving. In case there were any negative reactions.
None that I witnessed. One woman in the waiting area was talking on her
cell phone. She had it on speaker (why do people do that?!) Her
boyfriend/SO/husband was bitching loudly. "Why do you have to wait
there for 20 minutes? Just leave! I need cigarettes, dammit! And
where's my beer? Bring me some beer and cigarettes!".

> My husband and I clean and cook for each other and it is a sign of love.
>
Apparently 'D' thinks shouting at his wife and demanding she wait on him
hand and foot is her obligation and her cooking and cleaning is a "sign
of love". Welcome to 1900. Sorry, I don't buy it.

>> Most women I know who are militant feminists live alone and are generally
>> very bitter.
>
Bullshit, D. We simply are smarter than you are and don't tolerate fools.

> Not a statistically significant sample. Sample size too small. Sample
> not randomly selected.
>
It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal
thinking. 'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.

Jill

On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> What freedoms are you lacking?
>
> Many! Freedom to keep my property, freedom to own a gun, freedom to drink
> when and where I please, freedom to move around physically as long as it
> is not on someone elses private property, freedom to use any substance I
> like etc. Shall I continue?

Trifles. If you want to own a gun, you should move to a less
civilized country.

Out of curiosity, why can't you keep your property? Unwilling
to pay the price of civilization?

I thought you lacked substantive freedoms, not the freedom to make
a self-destructive nuisance of yourself. (Considering your behavior
here, I don't know what that should surprise me.)

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-24, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>
> I put a 10 pound pork butt on the smoker last night . My wife is
> going to make some of her fantastic potato salad and I'll doctor up some
> canned baked beans .

That sounds delicious.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-24, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
> It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal
> thinking. 'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.

Yeah. I'm thinking of putting him back in the killfile.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 3/24/2024 10:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-24, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> I put a 10 pound pork butt on the smoker last night . My wife is
>> going to make some of her fantastic potato salad and I'll doctor up some
>> canned baked beans .
>
> That sounds delicious.
>

I pinched a taste of the meat a few minutes ago . It IS delicious !
Wife also made a pasta salad ... hers is about the only one I like .
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

On 2024-03-24 11:33 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>
>> Many! Freedom to keep my property, freedom to own a gun, freedom to drink
>> when and where I please, freedom to move around physically as long as it
>> is not on someone elses private property, freedom to use any substance I
>> like etc. Shall I continue?
>
> Trifles. If you want to own a gun, you should move to a less
> civilized country.

Why? There are a lot of law abiding gun owners. The problem with guns
is generally limited to criminals. I am law abiding gun owners. I have
a permit. I keep my guns locked up safely and use them only for target
shooting. Handguns are strictly regulated here and are legally owned and
acquired handguns are almost never involved in crimes. Yet there is a
still a problem with handgun homicides because there is an element of
our society who buy illegal guns, carry them around and use them to
shoot people. I see no value in restricting my right to use guns for
hunting and target shooting because criminals are ignoring the law.

>
> Out of curiosity, why can't you keep your property? Unwilling
> to pay the price of civilization?
>
> I thought you lacked substantive freedoms, not the freedom to make
> a self-destructive nuisance of yourself. (Considering your behavior
> here, I don't know what that should surprise me.)
>

On 3/24/2024 12:52 AM, GM wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 3/23/2024 10:56 PM, Snag wrote:
>
>>>
>>>    I just do not understand the level of hatred and vitriol these
>>> folks bear against anyone who doesn't fall into lockstep with their
>>> beliefs . They call themselves "The Party of Tolerance" . I find the
>>> hypocrisy disgusting .
>
>
>> Certainly, you see it is both sides, not one.  Why to you mention the
>> "Party of Tolerance" when the MAGA folks are just as dug in with their
>> beliefs?
>
> Ever look in the mirror, Ed....???
>

Did I exempt myself? Yet you had the need to comment.
Thanks for making my point.

jmcquown wrote:
> It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal
> thinking.  'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.
>
> Jill
>
>
Jilldoe still thinks she's the RFC moderator.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, jmcquown wrote:

> On 3/24/2024 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Easy, because she's a real woman who cars about her husband. My wife
>>> cleans and cooks for me and it is a sign of love.
>>
> (piggybacking and reposting a bunch of relevant stuff which 'D' snipped:
>
> "When I went to get my first Covid shot at the hospital annex, the vaccine
> was new so people were supposed to wait about 20 minutes after the vaccine
> before leaving. In case there were any negative reactions. None that I
> witnessed. One woman in the waiting area was talking on her cell phone. She
> had it on speaker (why do people do that?!) Her boyfriend/SO/husband was
> bitching loudly. "Why do you have to wait there for 20 minutes? Just leave!
> I need cigarettes, dammit! And where's my beer? Bring me some beer and
> cigarettes!".
>
>> My husband and I clean and cook for each other and it is a sign of love.
>>
> Apparently 'D' thinks shouting at his wife and demanding she wait on him hand
> and foot is her obligation and her cooking and cleaning is a "sign of love".
> Welcome to 1900. Sorry, I don't buy it.

As long as it is done with love, who are you to judge? Or are you
insisting that couples only shall be allowed to engage based on your
militant feminist values?

>>> Most women I know who are militant feminists live alone and are generally
>>> very bitter.
>>
> Bullshit, D. We simply are smarter than you are and don't tolerate fools.

See, thank you for proving my point! ;)

>> Not a statistically significant sample. Sample size too small. Sample
>> not randomly selected.
>>
> It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal thinking.
> 'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.
> Jill
>

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> What freedoms are you lacking?
>>
>> Many! Freedom to keep my property, freedom to own a gun, freedom to drink
>> when and where I please, freedom to move around physically as long as it
>> is not on someone elses private property, freedom to use any substance I
>> like etc. Shall I continue?
>
> Trifles. If you want to own a gun, you should move to a less
> civilized country.

Hahaha, not a chance beautiful. That's what the nazi said to the
complaining jew as well. ;) Please you can do better than that!

> Out of curiosity, why can't you keep your property? Unwilling
> to pay the price of civilization?

Taxes exist. Taxes are the road to slavery. If you call slavery
civilization, I don't think we have enough conceptual shared ground to
talk. ;)

> I thought you lacked substantive freedoms, not the freedom to make
> a self-destructive nuisance of yourself. (Considering your behavior
> here, I don't know what that should surprise me.)

Wrong. Those are essential freedoms. I do know you seem to define freedom
as living under a socialist state, but that's a contradiction, which
again, makes it very difficult to teach you.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-24, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>> It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal
>> thinking. 'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.
>
> Yeah. I'm thinking of putting him back in the killfile.

So you did you bring me out of it? Having reach it I guess could be seen
as a badge of honour. ;)

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 09:07:28 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/24/2024 8:07 AM, Snag wrote:
>> On 3/23/2024 11:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>> Obviously you didn't come back to discuss much having to do with cooking.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>   Did I start this thread ? Nope , I'm just along for the ride .
>
>No, you didn't start the thread. The thread drifted to Covid crap and I
>don't understand anti-vaxxers anymore than I understand "preppers" who
>look for Armageddon around every corner.

I think the explanation is paranoia. It's a very complicated world for
people who aren't very bright so they become paranoid. There are so
many dangers they don't understand. "Quick, buy another gun!"

On 24 Mar 2024 15:36:55 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-24, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>> It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal
>> thinking. 'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.
>
>Yeah. I'm thinking of putting him back in the killfile.

Have you already put him in and taken him out again? I thought he was
very new here, as in a month or so.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:00:28 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Many! Freedom to keep my property, freedom to own a gun, freedom to drink
>>> when and where I please, freedom to move around physically as long as it
>>> is not on someone elses private property, freedom to use any substance I
>>> like etc. Shall I continue?
>>
>> Trifles. If you want to own a gun, you should move to a less
>> civilized country.
>
>Hahaha, not a chance beautiful. That's what the nazi said to the
>complaining jew as well. ;) Please you can do better than that!
>
>> Out of curiosity, why can't you keep your property? Unwilling
>> to pay the price of civilization?
>
>Taxes exist. Taxes are the road to slavery. If you call slavery
>civilization, I don't think we have enough conceptual shared ground to
>talk. ;)

Ah, this school of thought:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement>

On 2024-03-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2024 15:36:55 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-03-24, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>> It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal
>>> thinking. 'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.
>>
>>Yeah. I'm thinking of putting him back in the killfile.
>
> Have you already put him in and taken him out again? I thought he was
> very new here, as in a month or so.

I put him in almost as soon as he arrived. I forget why I let him out.
Probably because people kept replying to him and I wanted to make sure
I wasn't missing some crucial text that got snipped.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 24 Mar 2024 19:03:48 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 24 Mar 2024 15:36:55 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2024-03-24, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> It's an insignifcant sample but it is an example of neanderthal
>>>> thinking. 'D' seems to be trying to take over trolling this group.
>>>
>>>Yeah. I'm thinking of putting him back in the killfile.
>>
>> Have you already put him in and taken him out again? I thought he was
>> very new here, as in a month or so.
>
>I put him in almost as soon as he arrived. I forget why I let him out.
>Probably because people kept replying to him and I wanted to make sure
>I wasn't missing some crucial text that got snipped.

I don't killfile much, but I have some people automatically marked
read. Sometimes I'll read them anyway, but often I don't. His views
are so extreme that he becomes a caricature.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> What freedoms are you lacking?
>>
>> Many! Freedom to keep my property, freedom to own a gun, freedom to drink
>> when and where I please, freedom to move around physically as long as it
>> is not on someone elses private property, freedom to use any substance I
>> like etc. Shall I continue?
>
> Trifles. If you want to own a gun, you should move to a less
> civilized country.
>
> Out of curiosity, why can't you keep your property? Unwilling
> to pay the price of civilization?
>
> I thought you lacked substantive freedoms, not the freedom to make
> a self-destructive nuisance of yourself. (Considering your behavior
> here, I don't know what that should surprise me.)
>

I'd like the freedom to shit on trump's face, but that's probably
unconstitutional.

Snag wrote:

> On 3/23/2024 12:38 PM, D wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Mike Duffy wrote:
> >
> > > On 2024-03-23, D wrote:
> > >
> > > > So the amount of energy from the sun that hits us is about
> > > > 100x more than the energy content of the fossil fuel we burn.
> > >
> > > > Would that have any effect at all on the climate?
> > >
> > > Your climate 'model' ignores that the sun does not put
> > > methane & carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
> > >
> > > Also, heat from tidal friction is about 10 * insolation,
> > > and heat from radionucleide decay about 10 * tidal friction.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > We were talking fossil fuel here, not climate models.
>
> No , we were talking about heating with wood . Which we do , with a
> propane backup for times we aren't home for a couple of days in
> winter . Jill is correct we live in a clearing out in the woods . Not
> exactly a "cabin" though . 1500 sf with vaulted ceiling in the dining
> room/kitchen and a storm/storage cellar under the dining room/kitchen
> .

Yup, assume you are well off grid in a very woody area. Others will
try to pretend you can use others means but are clueless really on the
costs.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 14:36:26 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What freedoms are you lacking?
>>>
>>> Many! Freedom to keep my property, freedom to own a gun, freedom to drink
>>> when and where I please, freedom to move around physically as long as it
>>> is not on someone elses private property, freedom to use any substance I
>>> like etc. Shall I continue?
>>
>> Trifles. If you want to own a gun, you should move to a less
>> civilized country.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, why can't you keep your property? Unwilling
>> to pay the price of civilization?
>>
>> I thought you lacked substantive freedoms, not the freedom to make
>> a self-destructive nuisance of yourself. (Considering your behavior
>> here, I don't know what that should surprise me.)
>>
>
>I'd like the freedom to shit on trump's face, but that's probably
>unconstitutional.

Ah, Hank's back to his core business.

Snag wrote:

> On 3/23/2024 3:43 PM, Ed P wrote:
> > On 3/23/2024 3:52 PM, Snag wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >    And that's the "little shot" I was referring to . Remember all
> > > the histrionics about us unvaxxed "spreading death to
> > > everybody"? REMEMBER THE FUCKIN' LOCKDOWNS ?  Well , I'm still
> > > unvaxxed , and yes I've had The Coof . Or maybe it was just a
> > > cold , I'm not sure . Whatever it was I got over it and am in
> > > "Damn good physical shape for a man of 72" .
> > >
> >
> > Your message brightened my day.  I'm going to call the widow of my
> > friend that died from Covid and let her know you are doing well. 
> > He caught it at work.  I bet she was over reacting but you put in
> > into perspective for us.
>
> What other conditions did your friend have ? Did he die in a
> hospital ?

Josh didn't have any. Don and I were watching his dog, Prince when he
was at work. Then one day he didn't pickup hime so we called and he
said he was really sick and might go to the hospital and asked us to
keep him. Josh never made it home. he was about 34-35, no
preconditions, healthy and a cycler plus ran marathons locally. He
died just as vaccines came out, too late for him.