On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 12:53:05 -0400
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> It was a
> pretty good deal, and even better because it was free to me.
>

Copper retirement talk.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 10:53:55 -0600
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

> roll them for shipping.

doobie doobie doo!

On 4/18/2024 4:31 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/18/2024 4:07 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/18/2024 7:40 AM, songbird wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 10:37:06 +0100, S Viemeister
>>>> <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>>>> On 18/04/2024 02:29, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>> A tip that actually works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and a
>>>>>> tray of
>>>>>> bacon to go with them.  I make the bacon in the oven and can fit
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> 10 pieces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I always line the tray with parchment paper.  Once cut, it always
>>>>>> tries
>>>>>> to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it helps,but not
>>>>>> perfect.
>>>>>> Then I saw a tip on line that you just crumple up the paper and then
>>>>>> spread it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and roll
>>>>>> it up
>>>>>> to keep in the fridge.  Take out two pieces when needed, nuke 30
>>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use a silicone tray liner when I cook bacon in the oven, It always
>>>>> lies flat, and is re-usable.
>>>>
>>>> I think we have a winner.
>>>
>>>    compared to cooking bacon i'd rather just buy the packages
>>> of pre-cooked crumbled bacon.  it's there any time we want bacon
>>> and it cooks to desired crispness in 15-30 seconds.  the only
>>> mess is the cup we cook it in and there's no waste grease at all
>>> to discard (what little is the cup washes up).
>>>
>>>    songbird
>>
>> Yabbut not everyone wants crumbled bacon.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I've been tempted but never took the big step to buy it.  I just looked
> at BJs and 10 ounces is $13, probably not bad since much of the fat is
> gone.

Of course you can buy pre-cooked strips of bacon that isn't crumbled,
too. Pretty much the only time I crumble bacon is to add it to
something like homemade potato soup or a loaded baked potato.

Jill

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 04:16:39 +1000
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >My son hates the way the smell of frying bacon permeates the whole
> >house. So he cooks it in a pan on the BBQ.
>
> I read that burning human corpses smell the same.

Are you mostly lean of meat?

On 2024-04-18 2:46 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> On 18/04/2024 19:25, Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-04-18 12:17 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>> small furry animal wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:47:16 -0600
>>>> Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>> > > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered that, yes,
>>>>> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional clean-up.
>>>>> > But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and surrounding
>>>>> counter.
>>>
>>>> No it really is not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.  Just pop the fry
>>> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher.  All the
>>> grease is contained in those two areas.  But a splatter shield will
>>> contain most of the grease when skillet frying, most.
>>
>> I've had several splatter shields and I've yet to find one that works.
>
> Mine works - when I remember to use it.

The closest I've managed to get one to work was when I put a piece
of kitchen paper on top of the mesh.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:17:08 +0000
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

> small furry animal wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:47:16 -0600
> > Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered that, yes,
> >> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional
> >> > clean-up.
> >> But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and surrounding
> >> counter.
>
> > No it really is not.
> >
> >
> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.

Don't try that.

> Just pop the fry
> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher. All the
> grease is contained in those two areas.

And then ruins the dishwasher, the waste pipes, and perhaps clogs the
air gap up too.

Read your manual before giving that kind of advice.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-bad-to-put-greasy-dishes-in-the-dishwasher

Yes for two reasons. 1. The grease will cause your pipes to clog. 2. It will make any other item that you wash with the same water greasy therefore impossible to clean.

But it's ok if you 1. Leave any greasy dishes to wash last. 2. Beforr draining the greasy water, bring some clean water to a boil and turn it off. Then add a squirt of Dawn dish soap and as the last bit of dirty sink water is going down the drain pour the hot water and Dawn combo straight down the drain. This makes a huge difference in keeping your pipes from getting clogged.

> But a splatter shield will
> contain most of the grease when skillet frying, most.

That much IS true.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 12:25:03 -0600
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

> On 2024-04-18 12:17 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> > small furry animal wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:47:16 -0600
> >> Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> >>> > > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered that,
> >>> > > yes,
> >>> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional
> >>> > clean-up. But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and
> >>> > surrounding
> >>> counter.
> >
> >> No it really is not.
> >>
> >>
> > Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.  Just pop the fry
> > basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher.  All the
> > grease is contained in those two areas.  But a splatter shield will
> > contain most of the grease when skillet frying, most.
>
> I've had several splatter shields and I've yet to find one that works.

Check with the local oil field trash, they'll set ya right up, bisquit
boi!

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:49:11 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, Mike Duffy wrote:
>
> > On 2024-04-18, D wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Ed, but here's a tip that works even better!
> >
> >
> > The only place I use PP is in my air fryer. An almost perfect
> > kitchen accessory is like an oversized cupcake paper that fits
> > the basket bottom. If you don't know what that means, think about
> > a huge 'Reeses' PB cup wrapper.
> >
> > The only problem with it is that after some time, the edges fall
> > inwards and you end up with a central cavity that resembles a
> > swastika. I'm not sure who I should complain to.
>
> You're the master Ed! =)

Next up - he cooks the rising sun gratin!

On 4/18/2024 4:21 AM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2024 9:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2024 9:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>> A tip that actually works.
>>>>
>>>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and a
>>>> tray of bacon to go with them.  I make the bacon in the oven and can
>>>> fit about 10 pieces.
>>>>
>>>> I always line the tray with parchment paper.  Once cut, it always
>>>> tries to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it helps,but not
>>>> perfect. Then I saw a tip on line that you just crumple up the paper
>>>> and then spread it out.
>>>>
>>>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
>>>>
>>>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and roll it
>>>> up to keep in the fridge.  Take out two pieces when needed, nuke 30
>>>> seconds.
>>>
>>> When I bake a tray of bacon I put it on top of a slotted broiler pan
>>> and the pan underneath is lined with foil to catch the drippings.  No
>>> parchment paper involved.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Sure, but you also have the slotted tray to clean up.  I just toss the
>> parchment paper and the tray is clean as it was when I started.
>>
>
> Ed 1, Jill 0.
>
Is this what they mean by the taming of the shrew?

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tested on laboratory animals.

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We're just too courteous to say so."
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:53:47 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, small furry animal wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:19:45 +0200
> > D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:
> >>
> >>> A tip that actually works.
> >>>
> >>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and a
> >>> tray of bacon to go with them. I make the bacon in the oven and
> >>> can fit about 10 pieces.
> >>>
> >>> I always line the tray with parchment paper. Once cut, it always
> >>> tries to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it helps,but
> >>> not perfect. Then I saw a tip on line that you just crumple up the
> >>> paper and then spread it out.
> >>>
> >>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
> >>>
> >>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and roll
> >>> it up to keep in the fridge. Take out two pieces when needed,
> >>> nuke 30 seconds.
> >>
> >> Thank you Ed, but here's a tip that works even better!
> >>
> >> I threaten my parchment with the just wrath of Donald Trump and
> >> that usually makes it stay in place.
> >
> >
> > I think Xiden has all the wax paper saluting now.
>
> Xiden? That's nonsense! The only true path is XXrump! 100% more X!

A hobson's choice again - for some.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:07:48 -0400
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

> not everyone wants crumbled bacon.

Of course they do, especially the ones who got small appliance-shamed
for having rice cookers.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:27:11 -0300
lucretia@florence.it wrote:

> I took the bottom
> out and put the whole thing in the dishwasher!

Enjoy having your pipes reamed out!

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:29:13 -0300
lucretia@florence.it wrote:

> >My son hates the way the smell of frying bacon permeates the whole
> >house. So he cooks it in a pan on the BBQ.
>
> That's a good alternative :)

Straight off the balcony with the layabout lout would be even better!

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:31:32 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

> I just looked at BJs

Back at the glory hole again?

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:57:01 -0400
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> There is that design flaw.

Sayeth Officer Pecksniff of the handicapped crapper patrol...

BryanGSimmons wrote:

> On 4/18/2024 4:21 AM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/17/2024 9:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2024 9:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>>> A tip that actually works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and a
>>>>> tray of bacon to go with them.  I make the bacon in the oven and can
>>>>> fit about 10 pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always line the tray with parchment paper.  Once cut, it always
>>>>> tries to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it helps,but not
>>>>> perfect. Then I saw a tip on line that you just crumple up the paper
>>>>> and then spread it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and roll it
>>>>> up to keep in the fridge.  Take out two pieces when needed, nuke 30
>>>>> seconds.
>>>>
>>>> When I bake a tray of bacon I put it on top of a slotted broiler pan
>>>> and the pan underneath is lined with foil to catch the drippings.  No
>>>> parchment paper involved.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Sure, but you also have the slotted tray to clean up.  I just toss the
>>> parchment paper and the tray is clean as it was when I started.
>>>
>>
>> Ed 1, Jill 0.
> >
> Is this what they mean by the taming of the shrew?

I've always known that Jill was an idiot, but her "parchment" comments here mark her as a true 1000% Certified Cretin, lol...

--
GM

Graham wrote:

> On 2024-04-18 2:46 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 18/04/2024 19:25, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-18 12:17 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>> small furry animal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:47:16 -0600
>>>>> Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>>> > > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered that, yes,
>>>>>> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional clean-up.
>>>>>> > But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and surrounding
>>>>>> counter.
>>>>
>>>>> No it really is not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.  Just pop the fry
>>>> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher.  All the
>>>> grease is contained in those two areas.  But a splatter shield will
>>>> contain most of the grease when skillet frying, most.
>>>
>>> I've had several splatter shields and I've yet to find one that works.
>>
>> Mine works - when I remember to use it.

> The closest I've managed to get one to work was when I put a piece
> of kitchen paper on top of the mesh.

Graham, you're just a gigolo, and everywhere you go, people know the part you're playing...

;-P

--
GM

On 2024-04-18, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 10:37:06 +0100, S Viemeister
>><firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>>On 18/04/2024 02:29, Ed P wrote:
>>>> A tip that actually works.
>>>>
>>>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and a tray of
>>>> bacon to go with them.  I make the bacon in the oven and can fit about
>>>> 10 pieces.
>>>>
>>>> I always line the tray with parchment paper.  Once cut, it always tries
>>>> to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it helps,but not perfect.
>>>> Then I saw a tip on line that you just crumple up the paper and then
>>>> spread it out.
>>>>
>>>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
>>>>
>>>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and roll it up
>>>> to keep in the fridge.  Take out two pieces when needed, nuke 30 seconds.
>>>
>>>I use a silicone tray liner when I cook bacon in the oven, It always
>>>lies flat, and is re-usable.
>>
>> I think we have a winner.
>
> compared to cooking bacon i'd rather just buy the packages
> of pre-cooked crumbled bacon. it's there any time we want bacon
> and it cooks to desired crispness in 15-30 seconds. the only
> mess is the cup we cook it in and there's no waste grease at all
> to discard (what little is the cup washes up).
>
> no parchment paper, no foil, no trays, etc. just bacon.
> one of the few things that modern times actually improved as far
> as i'm concerned.

Just crappy bacon, as far as I'm concerned.

Nueske's or nuthin'.

https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-bacon-5-lb-pack-/

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 18 Apr 2024 21:46:09 GMT
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

> Nueske's or nuthin'.

Wrights!

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 21:41:11 +0000
gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

> BryanGSimmons wrote:
>
> > On 4/18/2024 4:21 AM, D wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 4/17/2024 9:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> On 4/17/2024 9:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
> >>>>> A tip that actually works.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and
> >>>>> a tray of bacon to go with them.  I make the bacon in the oven
> >>>>> and can fit about 10 pieces.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I always line the tray with parchment paper.  Once cut, it
> >>>>> always tries to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it
> >>>>> helps,but not perfect. Then I saw a tip on line that you just
> >>>>> crumple up the paper and then spread it out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and
> >>>>> roll it up to keep in the fridge.  Take out two pieces when
> >>>>> needed, nuke 30 seconds.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I bake a tray of bacon I put it on top of a slotted broiler
> >>>> pan and the pan underneath is lined with foil to catch the
> >>>> drippings.  No parchment paper involved.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jill
> >>>
> >>> Sure, but you also have the slotted tray to clean up.  I just
> >>> toss the parchment paper and the tray is clean as it was when I
> >>> started.
> >>
> >> Ed 1, Jill 0.
> > >
> > Is this what they mean by the taming of the shrew?
>
> I've always known that Jill was an idiot, but her "parchment"
> comments here mark her as a true 1000% Certified Cretin, lol...
>
>
Is she still haunting the Dataw lunchroom, or was she finally 86d?

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:25:39 -0500
BryanGSimmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Ed 1, Jill 0.
> >
> Is this what they mean by the taming of the shrew?

No, Schenk is still nattering over rice cookers.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:23:00 -0600
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

> I put a piece
> of kitchen paper on top of the mesh.

You canuckleheads sure like to live dangerously.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:48:45 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-18 6:34 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 18/04/2024 12:29, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I use a silicone tray liner when I cook bacon in the oven, It always
>>>>> lies flat, and is re-usable.
>>>>
>>>> I must be the last person in the world who cooks bacon in a pan on
>>>> the stove.  Five slices every Sunday (three for him, two for me);
>>>> save the grease for other uses.
>>>>
>>> That's how I used to do it - until a friend who ran a B&B in Tasmania,
>>> introduced me to the oven method.
>>
>> My son hates the way the smell of frying bacon permeates the whole house.
>> So he cooks it in a pan on the BBQ.
>
> I read that burning human corpses smell the same.
>

Where exactly did you read that, Master?

I'd like the source please.

Graham wrote:
> On 2024-04-18 2:46 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 18/04/2024 19:25, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-18 12:17 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>> small furry animal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:47:16 -0600
>>>>> Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>>> > > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered that, yes,
>>>>>> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional clean-up.
>>>>>> > But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and surrounding
>>>>>> counter.
>>>>
>>>>> No it really is not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.  Just pop the fry
>>>> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher.  All the
>>>> grease is contained in those two areas.  But a splatter shield will
>>>> contain most of the grease when skillet frying, most.
>>>
>>> I've had several splatter shields and I've yet to find one that works.
>>
>> Mine works - when I remember to use it.
>
> The closest I've managed to get one to work was when I put a piece
> of kitchen paper on top of the mesh.

Hand turned wooden ones work fine if you can find some pretty burl.

small furry animal wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:17:08 +0000
> ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

>> small furry animal wrote:
>>
>> >> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered that, yes,
>> >> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional
>> >> > clean-up.
>> >>
>> >> But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and surrounding
>> >> counter.
>>
>> > No it really is not.
>> >
>> >
>> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.

> Don't try that.
>
>
What do you think dishwasher are for? Just to look pretty in
the kitchen??
>>
>>
>> Just pop the fry
>> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher. All the
>> grease is contained in those two areas.

> And then ruins the dishwasher, the waste pipes, and perhaps clogs the
> air gap up too.
>
>
It probably would if you're stupid enough not to wipe the grease out
of the drip basket and just pour it down the drain.
>>
>>
> Read your manual before giving that kind of advice.
>
> https://www.quora.com/Is-it-bad-to-put-greasy-dishes-in-the-dishwasher
>
>
Where did I say to put greasy dishes into the dishwasher?? Nowhere.
You're welcome.
>
>
> Yes for two reasons. 1. The grease will cause your pipes to clog.
2. It will make any other item that you wash with the same water
greasy therefore impossible to clean.
>
>
I'm willing to go out on a limb and say lurcretia has enough smarts
about her to know to wipe out greasy pots and pans before washing.
>
> But it's ok if you 1. Leave any greasy dishes to wash last.
2. Before draining the greasy water, bring some clean water to
a boil and turn it off. Then add a squirt of Dawn dish soap and
as the last bit of dirty sink water is going down the drain pour
the hot water and Dawn combo straight down the drain. This makes
a huge difference in keeping your pipes from getting clogged.
>
>
Good grief, are you posting from a third world country??

I've lived in this house just shy of 36 years and not once,
not one single time, never, nada, zip, zilch, have I ever
had a clogged pipe. I'll let you in on a little secret,
greasy pots, pans, and dishes are wiped of their grease
b.e.f.o.r.e. washing. Hold onto your potholders! I don't
have an automatic dishwasher unless you call my hands an
automatic dishwasher.

(You can thank me later for correcting your run off the page
responses.)