On 18/04/2024 21:57, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-04-18 4:46 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 18/04/2024 19:25, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-18 12:17 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.  Just pop the fry
>>>> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher.  All the
>>>> grease is contained in those two areas.  But a splatter shield will
>>>> contain most of the grease when skillet frying, most.
>>>
>>> I've had several splatter shields and I've yet to find one that works.
>>
>> Mine works - when I remember to use it.
>
> Indeed. There is that design flaw.
>
Which is why I now cook bacon in my self-cleaning oven.

On 4/18/2024 8:01 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> small furry animal wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:17:08 +0000
>> ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
>
>>> small furry animal wrote:
>>> >> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>> >> > >> > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered
>>> that, yes,
>>> >> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional
>>> >> > clean-up. >>
>>> >> But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and surrounding
>>> >> counter.
>>> > No it really is not.
>>> >
>>> > Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.
>
>> Don't try that.
>>
>>
> What do you think dishwasher are for?  Just to look pretty in
> the kitchen??
>>>
>>>
>>> Just pop the fry
>>> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher.  All the
>>> grease is contained in those two areas.
>
(snippage)

> Where did I say to put greasy dishes into the dishwasher??  Nowhere.
> You're welcome.
>>
>>
>> Yes for two reasons. 1. The grease will cause your pipes to clog.
> 2. It will make any other item that you wash with the same water greasy
> therefore impossible to clean.
>>
>>
> I'm willing to go out on a limb and say lurcretia has enough smarts
> about her to know to wipe out greasy pots and pans before washing.
>>
>> But it's ok if you 1. Leave any greasy dishes to wash last.
> 2. Before draining the greasy water, bring some clean water to a boil
> and turn it off. Then add a squirt of Dawn dish soap and as the last bit
> of dirty sink water is going down the drain pour the hot water and Dawn
> combo straight down the drain. This makes a huge difference in keeping
> your pipes from getting clogged.
>>
>>
> Good grief, are you posting from a third world country??
>
No surprise. You're replying to the latest iteration of a small furry
troll.

Jill

Ed P wrote:
....
> I've been tempted but never took the big step to buy it. I just looked
> at BJs and 10 ounces is $13, probably not bad since much of the fat is
> gone.

exactly, why pay for wasted grease if you don't even want it
or use it?

i don't know what the price we've been paying but i think it's
been about $9-10/20oz package.

songbird

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
> Just crappy bacon, as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Nueske's or nuthin'.
>
> https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-bacon-5-lb-pack-/

it's just smoked pig - not something i care about that much
or eat very often. i could easily go the rest of my life
without eating it again.

i'd rather have a good gyro with a side greek salad.

songbird

small furry animal wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:23:00 -0600
> Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>> I put a piece
>> of kitchen paper on top of the mesh.

> You canuckleheads sure like to live dangerously.

It keeps them warm!

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, small furry animal wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:49:11 +0200
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-04-18, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Ed, but here's a tip that works even better!
>>>
>>>
>>> The only place I use PP is in my air fryer. An almost perfect
>>> kitchen accessory is like an oversized cupcake paper that fits
>>> the basket bottom. If you don't know what that means, think about
>>> a huge 'Reeses' PB cup wrapper.
>>>
>>> The only problem with it is that after some time, the edges fall
>>> inwards and you end up with a central cavity that resembles a
>>> swastika. I'm not sure who I should complain to.
>>
>> You're the master Ed! =)
>
> Next up - he cooks the rising sun gratin!

Why not Pol Pots Hot Pot?

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, GM wrote:

> BryanGSimmons wrote:
>
>> On 4/18/2024 4:21 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/17/2024 9:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 4/17/2024 9:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>> A tip that actually works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and a tray
>>>>>> of bacon to go with them.  I make the bacon in the oven and can fit
>>>>>> about 10 pieces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I always line the tray with parchment paper.  Once cut, it always tries
>>>>>> to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it helps,but not perfect.
>>>>>> Then I saw a tip on line that you just crumple up the paper and then
>>>>>> spread it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and roll it up
>>>>>> to keep in the fridge.  Take out two pieces when needed, nuke 30
>>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I bake a tray of bacon I put it on top of a slotted broiler pan and
>>>>> the pan underneath is lined with foil to catch the drippings.  No
>>>>> parchment paper involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but you also have the slotted tray to clean up.  I just toss the
>>>> parchment paper and the tray is clean as it was when I started.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ed 1, Jill 0.
>> >
>> Is this what they mean by the taming of the shrew?
>
> I've always known that Jill was an idiot, but her "parchment" comments here
> mark her as a true 1000% Certified Cretin, lol...
>
>

Sounds like a new product line... Aunt Jill, 1000% Certified Cretin, right
next to Aunt Jemima! ;)

On 2024-04-19, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
>> Just crappy bacon, as far as I'm concerned.
>>
>> Nueske's or nuthin'.
>>
>> https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-bacon-5-lb-pack-/
>
> it's just smoked pig - not something i care about that much
> or eat very often. i could easily go the rest of my life
> without eating it again.

Tastes vary. Bacon is one of those things that is so fattening,
I want to get the most possible enjoyment out of eating it, to
make the calories worth it. I eat it in its pure and unadulterated
state rather than as a topping for anything else. Except for my
annual BLT during tomato season.

I won't eat crappy sweets, either, for the same reason. No,
thank you, to supermarket birthday cake or anything in a package.

> i'd rather have a good gyro with a side greek salad.

I'd like to _find_ a good gyro. Our local place closed some
years ago, and now it's all that prefab stuff from the big
food service store.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> songbird wrote:
....
>> i'd rather have a good gyro with a side greek salad.
>
> I'd like to _find_ a good gyro. Our local place closed some
> years ago, and now it's all that prefab stuff from the big
> food service store.

yes, and some of those are better than the others.
we bought some of those slices several years ago but it
turned out that Mom couldn't eat those so i had to
finish them off.

i don't think there's a spit turned gyro available
anyplace around here at all. maybe would try Greektown
if i ever get down that ways but i consider that an
unlikely trip any time soon.

songbird

On 2024-04-19, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> songbird wrote:
> ...
>>> i'd rather have a good gyro with a side greek salad.
>>
>> I'd like to _find_ a good gyro. Our local place closed some
>> years ago, and now it's all that prefab stuff from the big
>> food service store.
>
> yes, and some of those are better than the others.
> we bought some of those slices several years ago but it
> turned out that Mom couldn't eat those so i had to
> finish them off.
>
> i don't think there's a spit turned gyro available
> anyplace around here at all. maybe would try Greektown
> if i ever get down that ways but i consider that an
> unlikely trip any time soon.

I stopped going to Greektown when the casinos started opening.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-04-19 5:22 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> I'd like to _find_ a good gyro. Our local place closed some
> years ago, and now it's all that prefab stuff from the big
> food service store.
>

That seems to be a universal problem these days. I remember years ago
when I first discovered those things and how good they were. Then then
the quality plummeted. I bought so many of them only to end up
disappointed that I pretty well gave up on them.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:59:38 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:48:45 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-18 6:34 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> >>> On 18/04/2024 12:29, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I use a silicone tray liner when I cook bacon in the oven, It
> >>>>> always lies flat, and is re-usable.
> >>>>
> >>>> I must be the last person in the world who cooks bacon in a pan
> >>>> on the stove.  Five slices every Sunday (three for him, two for
> >>>> me); save the grease for other uses.
> >>>>
> >>> That's how I used to do it - until a friend who ran a B&B in
> >>> Tasmania, introduced me to the oven method.
> >>
> >> My son hates the way the smell of frying bacon permeates the whole
> >> house. So he cooks it in a pan on the BBQ.
> >
> > I read that burning human corpses smell the same.
> >
>
> Where exactly did you read that, Master?
>
> I'd like the source please.
>
>
https://readdurhamenglish.wordpress.com/2018/12/20/how-to-cook-a-human-in-old-norse-literature/

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:04:02 -0500
Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Graham wrote:
> > On 2024-04-18 2:46 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> >> On 18/04/2024 19:25, Graham wrote:
> >>> On 2024-04-18 12:17 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> >>>> small furry animal wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:47:16 -0600
> >>>>> Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> >>>>>> > > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered
> >>>>>> > > that, yes,
> >>>>>> > there is somewhat of a mess down there needing occaisional
> >>>>>> > clean-up. But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop
> >>>>>> > and surrounding
> >>>>>> counter.
> >>>>
> >>>>> No it really is not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.  Just pop the
> >>>> fry basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher.  All
> >>>> the grease is contained in those two areas.  But a splatter
> >>>> shield will contain most of the grease when skillet frying,
> >>>> most.
> >>>
> >>> I've had several splatter shields and I've yet to find one that
> >>> works.
> >>
> >> Mine works - when I remember to use it.
> >
> > The closest I've managed to get one to work was when I put a piece
> > of kitchen paper on top of the mesh.
>
> Hand turned wooden ones work fine if you can find some pretty burl.
>
>

Burl Ives was not pretty!

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 00:01:07 +0000
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

> small furry animal wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:17:08 +0000
> > ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:
>
> >> small furry animal wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > On 2024-04-18, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I had my air fryer for a few weeks before I discovered that,
> >> >> > yes, there is somewhat of a mess down there needing
> >> >> > occaisional clean-up.
> >> >>
> >> >> But it's easier than cleaning the entire cooktop and surrounding
> >> >> counter.
> >>
> >> > No it really is not.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Sure it is, if you have an automatic dishwasher.
>
> > Don't try that.
> >
> >
> What do you think dishwasher are for? Just to look pretty in
> the kitchen??

Why do you embrace misusing one?

https://www.ehow.com/info_8760520_dishwasher-clogged-grease.html

When you leave leftover food and grease on your dishes before you place
them into the appliance, the dishwasher rinses all of the debris off
the dishes. The debris then lands on the bottom of the dishwasher and
finds its way into the drain hose. Once the drain hose becomes clogged
or obstructed, it needs to be fixed quickly to prevent damage to the
appliance.

> >>
> >>
> >> Just pop the fry
> >> basket along with the drip basket into the dishwasher. All the
> >> grease is contained in those two areas.
>
> > And then ruins the dishwasher, the waste pipes, and perhaps clogs
> > the air gap up too.
> >
> >
> It probably would if you're stupid enough not to wipe the grease out
> of the drip basket and just pour it down the drain.

The step that was left out, thank you!

> >>
> >>
> > Read your manual before giving that kind of advice.
> >
> > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-bad-to-put-greasy-dishes-in-the-dishwasher
> >
> >
> Where did I say to put greasy dishes into the dishwasher?? Nowhere.
> You're welcome.

When you leave leftover food and grease on your dishes before you place
them into the appliance, the dishwasher rinses all of the debris off
the dishes. The debris then lands on the bottom of the dishwasher and
finds its way into the drain hose. Once the drain hose becomes clogged
or obstructed, it needs to be fixed quickly to prevent damage to the
appliance.
> >
> >
> > Yes for two reasons. 1. The grease will cause your pipes to clog.
> 2. It will make any other item that you wash with the same water
> greasy therefore impossible to clean.
> >
> >
> I'm willing to go out on a limb and say lurcretia has enough smarts
> about her to know to wipe out greasy pots and pans before washing.
> >
> > But it's ok if you 1. Leave any greasy dishes to wash last.
> 2. Before draining the greasy water, bring some clean water to
> a boil and turn it off. Then add a squirt of Dawn dish soap and
> as the last bit of dirty sink water is going down the drain pour
> the hot water and Dawn combo straight down the drain. This makes
> a huge difference in keeping your pipes from getting clogged.
> >
> >
> Good grief, are you posting from a third world country??

When you leave leftover food and grease on your dishes before you place
them into the appliance, the dishwasher rinses all of the debris off
the dishes. The debris then lands on the bottom of the dishwasher and
finds its way into the drain hose. Once the drain hose becomes clogged
or obstructed, it needs to be fixed quickly to prevent damage to the
appliance.
>
> I've lived in this house just shy of 36 years and not once,
> not one single time, never, nada, zip, zilch, have I ever
> had a clogged pipe. I'll let you in on a little secret,
> greasy pots, pans, and dishes are wiped of their grease
> b.e.f.o.r.e. washing. Hold onto your potholders! I don't
> have an automatic dishwasher unless you call my hands an
> automatic dishwasher.
>
> (You can thank me later for correcting your run off the page
> responses.)

When you leave leftover food and grease on your dishes before you place
them into the appliance, the dishwasher rinses all of the debris off
the dishes. The debris then lands on the bottom of the dishwasher and
finds its way into the drain hose. Once the drain hose becomes clogged
or obstructed, it needs to be fixed quickly to prevent damage to the
appliance.

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 01:11:27 +0100
S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

> I now cook bacon in my self-cleaning oven.

Preferably, humans should be cooked in a large cauldron, which should
hang over a fire in a cave. It is acceptable to add horse meat to
thicken the stew. Some giants have been known to salt human meat
instead. It should be noted, however, that human law codes, as can be
found in Grágás, do not permit the consumption of human flesh. In fact,
this is greatly frowned upon, and any human who eats human flesh risks
becoming no better than an animal. If you are human, you should always
cook meat (but never human meat) properly: that is, by roasting it, or
by boiling it

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:16:04 -0400
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

> You're replying to the latest iteration of a small furry
> troll.

Not much gets past you does it?

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 04:32:52 +0000
zapsuserdo@gufum.com (jamesirving) wrote:

> small furry animal wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:23:00 -0600
> > Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >> I put a piece
> >> of kitchen paper on top of the mesh.
>
> > You canuckleheads sure like to live dangerously.
>
> It keeps them warm!

Tundra freezer burn is real.

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 10:56:44 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, small furry animal wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:49:11 +0200
> > D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, Mike Duffy wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2024-04-18, D wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thank you Ed, but here's a tip that works even better!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The only place I use PP is in my air fryer. An almost perfect
> >>> kitchen accessory is like an oversized cupcake paper that fits
> >>> the basket bottom. If you don't know what that means, think about
> >>> a huge 'Reeses' PB cup wrapper.
> >>>
> >>> The only problem with it is that after some time, the edges fall
> >>> inwards and you end up with a central cavity that resembles a
> >>> swastika. I'm not sure who I should complain to.
> >>
> >> You're the master Ed! =)
> >
> > Next up - he cooks the rising sun gratin!
>
> Why not Pol Pots Hot Pot?

<GUFFAW!!!>

mind the skeletal remains then..

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 11:00:57 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, GM wrote:
>
> > BryanGSimmons wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/18/2024 4:21 AM, D wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Ed P wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/17/2024 9:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>> On 4/17/2024 9:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
> >>>>>> A tip that actually works.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Every couple of weeks I make a batch of blueberry pancakes and
> >>>>>> a tray of bacon to go with them.  I make the bacon in the oven
> >>>>>> and can fit about 10 pieces.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I always line the tray with parchment paper.  Once cut, it
> >>>>>> always tries to roll back up, so, I fold the two sides and it
> >>>>>> helps,but not perfect. Then I saw a tip on line that you just
> >>>>>> crumple up the paper and then spread it out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did just that and it works easier than my folding.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once cooked, I lay the bacon on a couple of paper towels and
> >>>>>> roll it up to keep in the fridge.  Take out two pieces when
> >>>>>> needed, nuke 30 seconds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I bake a tray of bacon I put it on top of a slotted
> >>>>> broiler pan and the pan underneath is lined with foil to catch
> >>>>> the drippings.  No parchment paper involved.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jill
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure, but you also have the slotted tray to clean up.  I just
> >>>> toss the parchment paper and the tray is clean as it was when I
> >>>> started.
> >>>
> >>> Ed 1, Jill 0.
> >> >
> >> Is this what they mean by the taming of the shrew?
> >
> > I've always known that Jill was an idiot, but her "parchment"
> > comments here mark her as a true 1000% Certified Cretin, lol...
> >
> >
>
> Sounds like a new product line... Aunt Jill, 1000% Certified Cretin,
> right next to Aunt Jemima! ;)

LOLOLOL!

On 19 Apr 2024 09:22:34 GMT
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

> No, thank you, to supermarket birthday cake or anything in a package.

sfw

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 07:21:00 -0400
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

> i don't think there's a spit turned gyro available
> anyplace around here at all
Preferably, humans should be cooked in a large cauldron, which should
hang over a fire in a cave. It is acceptable to add horse meat to
thicken the stew. Some giants have been known to salt human meat
instead. It should be noted, however, that human law codes, as can be
found in Grágás, do not permit the consumption of human flesh. In fact,
this is greatly frowned upon, and any human who eats human flesh risks
becoming no better than an animal. If you are human, you should always
cook meat (but never human meat) properly: that is, by roasting it, or
by boiling it.

On 19 Apr 2024 11:29:22 GMT
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-19, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> songbird wrote:
> > ...
> >>> i'd rather have a good gyro with a side greek salad.
> >>
> >> I'd like to _find_ a good gyro. Our local place closed some
> >> years ago, and now it's all that prefab stuff from the big
> >> food service store.
> >
> > yes, and some of those are better than the others.
> > we bought some of those slices several years ago but it
> > turned out that Mom couldn't eat those so i had to
> > finish them off.
> >
> > i don't think there's a spit turned gyro available
> > anyplace around here at all. maybe would try Greektown
> > if i ever get down that ways but i consider that an
> > unlikely trip any time soon.
>
> I stopped going to Greektown when the casinos started opening.
>

gambling greeks mean stretched out assholes

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:15:10 -0400
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I bought so many of them only to end up
> disappointed that I pretty well gave up on them.

Preferably, humans should be cooked in a large cauldron, which should
hang over a fire in a cave. It is acceptable to add horse meat to
thicken the stew. Some giants have been known to salt human meat
instead. It should be noted, however, that human law codes, as can be
found in Grágás, do not permit the consumption of human flesh. In fact,
this is greatly frowned upon, and any human who eats human flesh risks
becoming no better than an animal. If you are human, you should always
cook meat (but never human meat) properly: that is, by roasting it, or
by boiling it.

my foolish hammer-drill wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:16:04 -0400
> jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> You're replying to the latest iteration of a small furry
>> troll.
>
> Not much gets past you does it?
>
>
I thought she might be squatting over a mirror.

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 16:32:31 -0400
Chris_P_Bacon <crsp.p.bacon1@none.none> wrote:

> my foolish hammer-drill wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:16:04 -0400
> > jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> You're replying to the latest iteration of a small furry
> >> troll.
> >
> > Not much gets past you does it?
> >
> >
> I thought she might be squatting over a mirror.

<GUFFAW!>