On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 07:03:46 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 06:39:30 +1100
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 04:05:11 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 10:13:24 +0000
>> > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 03/03/2024 21:43, Joe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > No, you need to go back a bit. On this planet are two groups of
>> >> > 'religious' people. The most devout members of these sects
>> >> > believe their holy scripture to be the literal word of their god.
>> >> >
>> >> Four groups *at least*.
>> >> > Within their scriptures, the members of *both* sects are told
>> >> > that they have been given *exclusive* ownership of Planet Earth,
>> >> > and all its animals and particularly the animals which look like
>> >> > people but aren't, since they don't belong to the correct sect.
>> >> >
>> >> And there are the communists who believe the same, but their god is
>> >> Marx. And the white supremacist Christians.
>> >> And there were Nazis, the 'super race'
>> >
>> > But only the two I mentioned have their 'ownership' of the planet
>> > endorsed by their god. Nowhere in the New Testament is there any
>> > similar claim of ownership by Christians.
>> >
>> > "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the
>> > dust off your feet when you leave that house or town."
>> >
>> > Not 'kill or enslave the infidels'.
>> >
>> > And as far as I know, no collectivist religion comes with any
>> > message from a god.
>> >>
>> >> The all talk exactly the same language.
>> >> "We cant be wrong, or everything we believed in is shit, therefore
>> >> you, who live your lives to a different set of values, are scum and
>> >> vermin and need to be eradicated from the planet, else our
>> >> followers might start asking why they have to do what we tell them
>> >> to"
>> >>
>> >> Its insecurity. Islam is massively threatened by Western values,
>> >> because Western values demonstrably *work*. At least Jews and some
>> >> uber conservative Christian sects like Mormons and so on have
>> >> learnt to do their thing in a sort of clannish way and nit try and
>> >> convince everyone else.
>> >>
>> >> The only two groups on the march right now are the Russians with
>> >> their hard left agents, and their hard right moles, and the
>> >> muslims.
>> >
>> > It's odd that the champion colonisers of the last thousand years
>> > don't even register on the radar of those who stand up and complain
>> > about colonisation (i.e. only British colonisation).
>> >>
>> >> > Those of us who don't belong to either sect have tended to ignore
>> >> > these sect members. This is becoming difficult due to their
>> >> > acquisition of nuclear weapons, and the acquisition by one sect
>> >> > of much of the planet's material wealth and by the other sect of
>> >> > an increasing amount of the planet's physical surface.
>> >> >
>> >> Precisely. Except you betray your anti0semitism by assuming that
>> >> Jews are wealthy. They are not, by and large.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Can we drop the semitism bit? Arabs are Semites and many Jews are
>> > not.
>> >
>> > No, Jews generally are not that rich, but all the very richest
>> > people are Jews.

>> Bullshit.

Clearly not true of the british royals, even tho they
were into circumcision until Diana put a stop to that.

>> > I don't mean paupers like Bezos or Musk,

Even sillier.

>> > I mean the families
>> > who own the holding companies who own the holding companies who own
>> > the holding companies who own most shares in Western public
>> > corporations.

>> Its actually the pension funds that do that.

You can't ignore that.

>> > Almost all US Senators won election by means of campaign donations
>> > from rich Jews.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>> > 'The Jews', meaning the richest ones, own the US outright.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>> > Why else would the US send much weaponryand large sums of money
>> > annually to Israel?

>> Because lots of US jews vote.

> (Allegedly) 2% of the population.

But they are considerably better organised politically than most.

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On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim Streater
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>
>>>>No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>
>>>Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>
>>You used the expression, you explain it
>
>He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.

Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.

--
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All things being equal, fat people use more soap

On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
Philosopher wrote:

>On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
>>>Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>
>>Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>
>Only in your propaganda infested mind

No, it's correct in law.

--
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And on the Virgin Islands same thing, not one canary.

On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:18 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

> On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim
>>> Streater wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>>
>>>>> No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>>
>>>> Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>>
>>> You used the expression, you explain it
>>
>> He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.
>
> Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.

Try that in english.

On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:44 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

> On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
> Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>>> Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>>
>>> Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>>
>> Only in your propaganda infested mind
>
> No, it's correct in law.

Nope, in law, its their country now.

On 04/03/2024 22:36, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
> Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>>> Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>>
>>> Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>>
>> Only in your propaganda infested mind
>
> No, it's correct in law.
>
Whose law?

--
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Adolf Hitler

On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40xn2fbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:18 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim Streater
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>>>
>>>>>Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>>>
>>>>You used the expression, you explain it
>>>
>>>He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.
>>
>>Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.
>
>Try that in english.

I suggest you look it up.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40y2pibyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:44 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
>>Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>>On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>>>
>>>>Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>>>
>>>Only in your propaganda infested mind
>>
>>No, it's correct in law.
>
>Nope, in law, its their country now.

Not in Intentional law, check with the UN.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks

On 05/03/2024 in message <us6f80$3kvds$1@dont-email.me> The Natural
Philosopher wrote:

>On 04/03/2024 22:36, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
>>Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>>On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>>>
>>>>Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>>>
>>>Only in your propaganda infested mind
>>
>>No, it's correct in law.
>>
>Whose law?

Intentional law, check with the UN.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The fact that there's a highway to hell and only a stairway to heaven says
a lot about anticipated traffic numbers.

On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 19:16:22 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

> On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40xn2fbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:18 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines
>>>> <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim
>>>>> Streater wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> You used the expression, you explain it
>>>>
>>>> He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.
>>>
>>> Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.
>>
>> Try that in english.
>
> I suggest you look it up.

Just because some fuckwit foreigner spews some shit, foreigner.

On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 19:17:10 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

> On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40y2pibyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:44 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
>>> Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>>>>
>>>>> Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>>>>
>>>> Only in your propaganda infested mind
>>>
>>> No, it's correct in law.
>>
>> Nope, in law, its their country now.
>
> Not in Intentional law,

No such animal

> check with the UN.

Who said it was theirs

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In message <xn0oiyi2x9w3u3t01z@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40xn2fbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:18 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines
>>>><jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim
>>>>>Streater wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>You used the expression, you explain it
>>>>
>>>>He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.
>>>
>>>Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.
>>
>>Try that in english.
>
>I suggest you look it up.
>
Were you using your dong to ding the dingo?
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Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

On 05/03/2024 in message <fsKqrqAbmx5lFw3R@brattleho.plus.com> Ian Jackson
wrote:

>In message <xn0oiyi2x9w3u3t01z@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
><jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>>On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40xn2fbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:18 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim Streater
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You used the expression, you explain it
>>>>>
>>>>>He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.
>>>
>>>Try that in english.
>>
>>I suggest you look it up.
>>
>Were you using your dong to ding the dingo?

The cat escaped when I picked the bell up...

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By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

Am 05/03/2024 um 13:09 schrieb Ian Jackson:
> In message <xn0oiyi2x9w3u3t01z@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
> <jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>> On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40xn2fbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:18 +1100, Jeff Gaines
>>> <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines
>>>>> <jgnewsid@outlook.com>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim
>>>>>> Streater    wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You used the expression, you explain it
>>>>>
>>>>> He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.
>>>
>>> Try that in english.
>>
>> I suggest you look it up.
>>
> Were you using your dong to ding the dingo?

Dingo ate my baby!

--
Ottavio Caruso

On 05/03/2024 08:17, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 05/03/2024 in message <us6f80$3kvds$1@dont-email.me> The Natural
> Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2024 22:36, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
>>> Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>>>>
>>>>> Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>>>>
>>>> Only in your propaganda infested mind
>>>
>>> No, it's correct in law.
>>>
>> Whose law?
>
> Intentional law, check with the UN.
>
As opposed to uninetentional law, which comes from the barrel of an Uzi.

--
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name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 00:09:47 +1100, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <xn0oiyi2x9w3u3t01z@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
> <jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>> On 05/03/2024 in message <op.2j40xn2fbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 09:36:18 +1100, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <op.2j4jbvylbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 02:44:31 +1100, Jeff Gaines
>>>>> <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <l4m37hFf23U1@mid.individual.net> Tim
>>>>>> Streater wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Belling the cat, AISB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No idea what that means, do you speak English?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look it up, dimwit, and educate yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You used the expression, you explain it
>>>>>
>>>>> He did, and you carefully deleted it from the quoting.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I was dinging the dingo while I was writing the post.
>>>
>>> Try that in english.
>>
>> I suggest you look it up.
>>
> Were you using your dong to ding the dingo?

That is why he is now dongless.

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On 5 Mar 2024 at 14:35:31 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <tnp@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

> On 05/03/2024 08:17, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> On 05/03/2024 in message <us6f80$3kvds$1@dont-email.me> The Natural
>> Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/03/2024 22:36, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>> On 04/03/2024 in message <us57vd$3ahjp$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
>>>> Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/03/2024 19:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israell was not an occupying power three months ago. Hamas were
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel is the occupying power of Palestine.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Only in your propaganda infested mind
>>>>
>>>> No, it's correct in law.
>>>>
>>> Whose law?
>>
>> Intentional law, check with the UN.
>>
> As opposed to uninetentional law, which comes from the barrel of an Uzi.

Perhaps he wishes to mean International Law.

Not that there's any such thing, as that barrister chappie who retrained as a
comedian, said on his BBC-R4 programme called "Unreliable Evidence". I forget
his name for the minute.

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On 05/03/2024 19:02, Tim Streater wrote:
> Perhaps he wishes to mean International Law.
>
Hard to tell with these undeducated swivel eyed remaoners

> Not that there's any such thing, as that barrister chappie who retrained as a
> comedian, said on his BBC-R4 programme called "Unreliable Evidence". I forget
> his name for the minute.

Clive Andersen?
Law is what you can enforce.

--
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the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

- Bertrand Russell

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 20:12:42 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 05/03/2024 19:02, Tim Streater wrote:
> > Perhaps he wishes to mean International Law.
> >
> Hard to tell with these undeducated swivel eyed remaoners
>
> > Not that there's any such thing, as that barrister chappie who
> > retrained as a comedian, said on his BBC-R4 programme called
> > "Unreliable Evidence". I forget his name for the minute.
>
> Clive Andersen?
> Law is what you can enforce.
>
>

"Law cannot reach where enforcement will not follow. —Popular aphorism."

Jack Vance
'Star King' 1981

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Joe