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Re: OT: health gadgets

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From: york996@gmail.com (Hog)
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Subject: Re: OT: health gadgets
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 by: Hog - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 15:24 UTC

On 04/08/2023 13:49, Sqirrel99 wrote:

> I already avoid those (helped by being vegetarian and a non-drinker) -

Weirdo

Re: OT: health gadgets

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 by: Mike Fleming - Sun, 27 Aug 2023 13:30 UTC

On 16/08/2023 12:33, GeoffC wrote:
>
> Thanks for that, as usual a polite enquiry to UKRM provides a clearer
> answer than Google (on some subjects anyway).
> I have hypertension so the statistics would tend to push me towards
> trying them. That coupled with Colin's indisputable logic has dropped
> me on the side of 'give them a try'.
> Having said that, the detractors should not be simply dismissed as
> 'anecdotal', somebody reports 'muscle pain' is that anecdotal or can it
> be proved/disproved?

A bit late replying, but anyway: when I started on statins, I had what I
can only describe as microcramps - muscle cramps but only affecting very
small areas. I persisted and they didn't. However, the melodeon player
in our band went on them a few months later, and she did suffer from
muscle pain sufficiently badly that she stopped taking them. This was
during her "miserable cow" period, so exactly how bad it was in absolute
terms I wouldn't like to guess.

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 by: geoffC - Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:55 UTC

On 27/08/2023 15:30, Mike Fleming wrote:
>On 16/08/2023 12:33, GeoffC wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for that, as usual a polite enquiry to UKRM provides a clearer
>> answer than Google (on some subjects anyway).
>> I have hypertension so the statistics would tend to push me towards
>> trying them. That coupled with Colin's indisputable logic has dropped
>> me on the side of 'give them a try'.
>> Having said that, the detractors should not be simply dismissed as
>> 'anecdotal', somebody reports 'muscle pain' is that anecdotal or can it
>> be proved/disproved?
>
>A bit late replying, but anyway: when I started on statins, I had what I
>can only describe as microcramps - muscle cramps but only affecting very
>small areas. I persisted and they didn't. However, the melodeon player
>in our band went on them a few months later, and she did suffer from
>muscle pain sufficiently badly that she stopped taking them. This was
>during her "miserable cow" period, so exactly how bad it was in absolute
>terms I wouldn't like to guess.

Exactly, when did it start and what caused it?

--
Geoff
NTV 650

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 by: Mike Fleming - Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:18 UTC

On 27/08/2023 19:55, geoffC wrote:
> On 27/08/2023 15:30, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 16/08/2023 12:33, GeoffC wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, as usual a polite enquiry to UKRM provides a clearer
>>> answer than Google (on some subjects anyway).
>>> I have hypertension so the statistics would tend to push me towards
>>> trying them. That coupled with Colin's indisputable logic has dropped
>>> me on the side of 'give them a try'.
>>> Having said that, the detractors should not be simply dismissed as
>>> 'anecdotal', somebody reports 'muscle pain' is that anecdotal or can it
>>> be proved/disproved?
>>
>> A bit late replying, but anyway: when I started on statins, I had what
>> I can only describe as microcramps - muscle cramps but only affecting
>> very small areas. I persisted and they didn't. However, the melodeon
>> player in our band went on them a few months later, and she did suffer
>> from muscle pain sufficiently badly that she stopped taking them. This
>> was during her "miserable cow" period, so exactly how bad it was in
>> absolute terms I wouldn't like to guess.
>
> Exactly, when did it start and what caused it?

For me, two or three days after starting them IIRC. I was aware of them
but it was mild discomfort rather than severe pain, so I didn't cry off
the statins but gave them a chance. As for cause, I have no idea.

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