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The Flaws of General Relativity. A .gov site AGAINST GR By: Richard Hertz on Tue, 22 Aug 2023	19	8 Months 7 Days ago By: The Starmaker
I can only add motion to my frame moving toward another By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Fri, 25 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 7 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
FTL jets. Jets would be tachyons if so By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu, 24 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 7 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: RichD on Mon, 14 Aug 2023	10	8 Months 8 Days ago By: J. J. Lodder
Heat was found not to demagnetize iron By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu, 24 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 8 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Towards Einstein-Free Physics : Two Important Conditionals By: Pentcho Valev on Mon, 21 Aug 2023	9	8 Months 8 Days ago By: Gary Harnagel
Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. By: The Starmaker on Tue, 22 Aug 2023	8	8 Months 9 Days ago By: The Starmaker
John Norton : Theoretical Physicists Are Liars By: Pentcho Valev on Mon, 21 Aug 2023	8	8 Months 9 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Why would electricity flow inside the Earth By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu, 24 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 9 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Time slows finite By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed, 23 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 9 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
How does science measure relative motion over absolute? By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon, 21 Aug 2023	15	8 Months 9 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Pascal and Relativity By: patdolan on Fri, 18 Aug 2023	19	8 Months 10 Days ago By: Samsath Grosse
Re: Russian Moon satellite fails//For the Russian satellite failed, By: Khalil Mombelli on Wed, 23 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 10 Days ago By: Khalil Mombelli
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Volney on Wed, 23 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 10 Days ago By: Stefhen Hanok
A proof of inconsistency of the physics of your idiot guru By: Maciej Wozniak on Wed, 23 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 10 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Washington State and Relativity -- Chap. 5, LIGO By: patdolan on Wed, 23 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 10 Days ago By: patdolan
Re: Moon Landing Tomorrow 8AM EDT ! By: whodat on Wed, 23 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 10 Days ago By: whodat
Holy "Physics" of the Sci.Physics.Relativity Caliber :-) By: Physfitfreak on Tue, 22 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 10 Days ago By: Physfitfreak
Chap. 4 cont., The mother of all LIGOs, Washington State and Relativity By: patdolan on Tue, 22 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 10 Days ago By: patdolan
Forbidden Logic in Einstein's Schizophrenic World By: Pentcho Valev on Sun, 20 Aug 2023	5	8 Months 10 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue, 22 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 10 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Equal and opposite appearance By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat, 19 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 10 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Einstein Knew the Speed of Light Is Variable By: Pentcho Valev on Fri, 18 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 11 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Promoting the “Cult” of Einstein By: Richard Hertz on Tue, 15 Aug 2023	22	8 Months 11 Days ago By: J. J. Lodder
Dance of the Blessed Spirits in Einstein's World By: Pentcho Valev on Sun, 20 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 12 Days ago By: Bill
Why Physicists Believe White Is Black By: Pentcho Valev on Sun, 20 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 12 Days ago By: Pentcho Valev
eisnetein culture By: The Starmaker on Thu, 10 Aug 2023	27	8 Months 12 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Mathematical Gravity changes time and energy By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun, 20 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 12 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Light is force By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat, 19 Aug 2023	5	8 Months 12 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Why Physicists Believe White Is Black By: Nathaniel Raihelson on Sun, 20 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 12 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Heat speed is c By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun, 20 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 12 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: SCOTUS barred Trump the High Treason traitor. By: rotchm on Sun, 20 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 12 Days ago By: Jesus Isa Christ
For Starmaker's eyes only. By: patdolan on Fri, 18 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 13 Days ago By: George Hammond
Re: ChatGPT By: Physfitfreak on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	7	8 Months 13 Days ago By: Prokaryotic Capase H
Re: What is below the infinitesimal By: Jeon Lotosh on Fri, 18 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 13 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Einstein's Relativity and Insanity By: Pentcho Valev on Fri, 18 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 14 Days ago By: Pentcho Valev
charlatan syndrome By: Laurence Clark Cross on Sun, 13 Aug 2023	65	8 Months 14 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Einstein's nonsenses are not science By: Ken Seto on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	12	8 Months 14 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Non-constant Separation of the Rockets Contradicts the Resolution of By: Mike Fontenot on Fri, 18 Aug 2023	7	8 Months 14 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
relativity and current events By: sep...@yahoo.com on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	5	8 Months 14 Days ago By: Bill
too easy? By: nero on Thu, 10 Aug 2023	33	8 Months 14 Days ago By: nero
Testing: To put my boohttp://k online By: Ken Seto on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	9	8 Months 14 Days ago By: Herman Dobreitser
"which countries are suppliers of electronic components." By: The Starmaker on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	6	8 Months 14 Days ago By: The Starmaker
A Proof that the Separation Between Accelerating Rockets is Constant By: Mike Fontenot on Thu, 10 Aug 2023	41	8 Months 15 Days ago By: Mikko
Anti-SRT answer is most highly recommended for this question on By: LEO_MMX on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	9	8 Months 15 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
A Proof that the Separation Between Accelerating Rockets is Constant By: Mike Fontenot on Thu, 10 Aug 2023	8	8 Months 15 Days ago By: Prokaryotic Capase H
Special relativity and kinematics. By: Richard Hachel on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 15 Days ago By: Richard Hachel
Washington State and Relativity--Chap. 4, The Mother of All LIGOs By: patdolan on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 15 Days ago By: patdolan
Washington State and Relativity--Chap. 3, A Monument at Goldendale By: patdolan on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 15 Days ago By: patdolan
Repeat Krisher Experiment Going with Earth's Rotation versus Against By: LEO_MMX on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 15 Days ago By: Dono.
Washington State and Relativity--Chap. 2, Driving to Goldendale Cont. By: patdolan on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 16 Days ago By: patdolan
Hypothetically just for fun: what if Sagnac happened in 1887 and MMX By: LEO_MMX on Thu, 17 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 16 Days ago By: LEO_MMX
Cordial Invitation to all Relativists. By: Laurence Clark Cross on Fri, 11 Aug 2023	166	8 Months 16 Days ago By: whodat
The incoming speed of light is variable By: Ken Seto on Thu, 10 Aug 2023	23	8 Months 16 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Washington State and Relativity--Chap. 2, Driving to Goldendale By: patdolan on Wed, 16 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 16 Days ago By: Dono.
What annoys me... LOL... By: Richard Hachel on Wed, 16 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 16 Days ago By: Richard Hachel
Re: The speed of light can't be a universal constant in all frames By: Ken Seto on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	28	8 Months 16 Days ago By: Ken Seto
HOMEMADE EINSTEIN V/R "GOD GLASSES" By: George Hammond on Sun, 13 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 17 Days ago By: Ilir Lozben
Question for Athel: Molecular Modeling Graphics Programs? By: Prokaryotic Capase H on Wed, 16 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 17 Days ago By: Prokaryotic Capase H
How Einstein Led Generations of Physicists To A Path of Failed Physics By: Ken Seto on Mon, 14 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 17 Days ago By: Laurence Clark Cross
NO absolute rest By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 17 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
For Richard Hertz's Ears Only By: patdolan on Mon, 14 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 17 Days ago By: Athel Cornish-Bowden
Light's constant fastest speed is not affected by slower atomic speed By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue, 15 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 17 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
If a particle is in two places at the same time... By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon, 14 Aug 2023	15	8 Months 17 Days ago By: The Starmaker
What is the kinetic energy of a Neutrino? By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue, 15 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 17 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Washington State and Relativity--Chap. 1, Prolegomenon By: patdolan on Tue, 15 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 18 Days ago By: patdolan
A proof of inconsistency of the physics of your idiot guru By: Maciej Wozniak on Tue, 15 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 18 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
What was the relativity of Brownian motion? By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 18 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: There is no material length contraction By: Volney on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	45	8 Months 18 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Gravity, propulsion, and energy via cosmic E field radiation. By: Rodolfo Badikoff on Sun, 13 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 18 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Why Antirelativists Worship Einstein's 1905 Second Postulate By: Pentcho Valev on Tue, 8 Aug 2023	16	8 Months 19 Days ago By: Ken Seto
Authority By: Maciej Wozniak on Mon, 14 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 19 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
How is (g-2) any different than 2(p-1) ? By: Ross Finlayson on Fri, 11 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 19 Days ago By: Ross Finlayson
charlatan syndrome By: Laurence Clark Cross on Sun, 13 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 19 Days ago By: Laurence Clark Cross
Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails By: whodat on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	8	8 Months 19 Days ago By: Jeffrey Rubard
What pushes the continents apart at pangea By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun, 13 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 19 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
For Athel's ears only By: patdolan on Fri, 11 Aug 2023	6	8 Months 20 Days ago By: Athel Cornish-Bowden
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Paul Alsing on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 20 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Zero math and mathematical win By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 20 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Length contractions of atoms distorts the atom By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 20 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Zero Unity By: Cipriano Abuzov on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 20 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: My 247th book of Science// Hygiene science-- finally perfected By: Lowell Tets on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 20 Days ago By: Lowell Tets
Re: AP's 256th book:: Exploring Pi further and can we get it from By: Alfonzo Lupan on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 20 Days ago By: Alfonzo Lupan
Re: Points are supposed to represent quantities along a line By: Jesse Gauer on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 20 Days ago By: Jesse Gauer
Alternative math By: Maciej Wozniak on Fri, 11 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 20 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
It should now be easy to disprove 1.75 arc seconds.... By: patdolan on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	67	8 Months 20 Days ago By: Dono.
Proper time and route... By: Richard Hachel on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	27	8 Months 21 Days ago By: Mikko
A proof of inconsistency of the physics of your idiot guru By: Maciej Wozniak on Sat, 12 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 21 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Mercury mystery: Explain this, relativists. I bet you can't. By: Richard Hertz on Thu, 10 Aug 2023	25	8 Months 21 Days ago By: patdolan
Einstein's Constant Speed of Light : Blatant Nonsense By: Pentcho Valev on Fri, 11 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 21 Days ago By: Laurence Clark Cross
Les einsteiniens français sont plus malhonnêtes By: Pentcho Valev on Fri, 11 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 21 Days ago By: Pentcho Valev
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Lou on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	11	8 Months 22 Days ago By: Bill
Variable Speed of Light and Protective Stupidity By: Pentcho Valev on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	40	8 Months 22 Days ago By: The Starmaker
A frame doesn't determine the speed of light By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	6	8 Months 22 Days ago By: Erich Matsak
Re: There is no material length contraction By: Ken Seto on Tue, 8 Aug 2023	8	8 Months 22 Days ago By: Kaosayn Shakhbazyan
Feynman Unwittingly Disproves Einstein's Relativity By: Pentcho Valev on Wed, 9 Aug 2023	11	8 Months 23 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Relativistic rotating disc By: Richard Hachel on Tue, 8 Aug 2023	14	8 Months 23 Days ago By: Ross Finlayson
Re: THE BIG SUCK THEORY By: Kamyar Zolfkhani on Wed, 9 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 23 Days ago By: Kamyar Zolfkhani
The spin limit By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed, 9 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 23 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Relativistic concepts and light speed By: Richard Hachel on Wed, 9 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 23 Days ago By: Richard Hachel
the breakdown of order at a BH By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun, 6 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 23 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Which idiot has "refuted" basic mathematics By: Maciej Wozniak on Wed, 9 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 24 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Re: Tom Roberts and the resident pieces of fraudulent nazi shit (Was: By: Julio Di Egidio on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	14	8 Months 24 Days ago By: Athel Cornish-Bowden
Re: Charles Manson and Albert Einstein By: The Starmaker on Tue, 8 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 24 Days ago By: The Starmaker
LIGO's Gravitational Waves : Maximum Fraud in Science By: Pentcho Valev on Tue, 8 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 24 Days ago By: Pentcho Valev
Constant Wavelength of Light (End of Einstein) By: Pentcho Valev on Tue, 8 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 24 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. By: The Starmaker on Sun, 6 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 24 Days ago By: The Starmaker
Re: Archimedes "mindless spamming fuckdog of math" Plutonium flunked By: Pascual Mikhailovich on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 25 Days ago By: Trolidan7
Re: Interpretation of Cold and Warm Spots (in CMB, CMBR) of Planck By: Hannu Poropudas on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 25 Days ago By: Hannu Poropudas
The proof of inconsistency of the physics of your idiot guru By: Maciej Wozniak on Tue, 8 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 25 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Theoretical Physicists Reconcile 2+2=5 and 2+2=4 By: Pentcho Valev on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	12	8 Months 25 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Re: Time as "what clocks indicate" - part 2 By: Volney on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	44	8 Months 25 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
It only took one glimpse... By: patdolan on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	40	8 Months 25 Days ago By: whodat
Re: .999 repeating and 1 By: Evatt Alcheka on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 25 Days ago By: Volney
Re: The speed of light can't be a universal constant in all frames By: Ken Seto on Sun, 6 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 26 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
What a fucking nazi retarded shithole: ex 3 By: Julio Di Egidio on Mon, 7 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 26 Days ago By: Julio Di Egidio
Re: Waves moving in a lecture By: Julio Di Egidio on Sun, 6 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 26 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Tom Roberts and the resident pieces of fraudulent nazi shit (Was: By: Julio Di Egidio on Sun, 6 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 27 Days ago By: Julio Di Egidio
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Ross Finlayson on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 27 Days ago By: Ross Finlayson
Re: Junk science, agnotology and cognitronics By: patdolan on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 27 Days ago By: patdolan
Re: Time as "what clocks indicate" - part 2 By: Laurence Clark Cross on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	21	8 Months 27 Days ago By: Vidal Barabashev
SEE EINSTEIN's V/R "GOD GLASSES' By: George Hammond on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 27 Days ago By: Stewart Kabakchi
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Maciej Wozniak on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Re: Light is invisible most of the time By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Wormhole? By: Chris M. Thomasson on Sat, 5 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time as "what clocks indicate" - part 2 By: Laurence Clark Cross on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Volney
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: RichD on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Prokaryotic Capase H
The crackpots won't like this, but ... By: Athel Cornish-Bowden on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	20	8 Months 28 Days ago By: The Starmaker
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Bill on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Bill
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Dono. on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Dono.
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: J. J. Lodder on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	3	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Dono.
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: patdolan on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: patdolan
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Lou on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Lou
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Bill on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Bill
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Lou on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Lou
Speed in space slows time and gravity does By: mitchr...@gmail.com on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: mitchr...@gmail.com
crankbait 1 By: whodat on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Athel Cornish-Bowden
The proof of inconsistenc of the physics of your idiot guru By: Maciej Wozniak on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Re: Time as "what clocks indicate" - part 2 By: Ken Seto on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	4	8 Months 28 Days ago By: Volney
Re: The Real Cause of...Climate Change. By: The Starmaker on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 28 Days ago By: The Starmaker
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Bill on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Bill
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Bill on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Bill
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Lou on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	1	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Mikko
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Lou on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Lou
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Lou on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Lou
Re: There is no material length contraction By: Sylvia Else on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	2	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Richard Hachel
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Prokaryotic Capase H on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Prokaryotic Capase H
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Bill on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Bill
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Lou on Fri, 4 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Lou
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Bill on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Bill
Re: There is no material length contraction By: Ken Seto on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Ken Seto
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: J. J. Lodder on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: J. J. Lodder
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: Maciej Wozniak on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak
Re: Dunning-Kruger examples By: J. J. Lodder on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: J. J. Lodder
Re: Time as "what clocks indicate" - part 2 By: Maciej Wozniak on Thu, 3 Aug 2023	0	8 Months 29 Days ago By: Maciej Wozniak

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